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#1 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="shinrabanshou"]

Well... software moves hardwar...

Wait a minute...

o.O

shinrabanshou

3DS defies all laws of logic and basic understanding :shock:

MonHun now > PokeMon:

Everyone already knew the 3DS would be getting PokeMon games at some point... but didn't bite.

But announcement of MonHun port and far-off MonHun 4 was enough to get sales going. :P

30% price cut after only 6 months didn't hurt... What's the last system to get that big a cut that quickly?

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#2 ianuilliam
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So, uhhh...Cows...Why didn't this score as high as Gears of War 3?

AmayaPapaya

My guess is the guy that reviewed Gears was just so happy to have something to put in his 360 for the first time in over a year that he got caught up in the hype and over-rated it. ;)

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#3 ianuilliam
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General games dicussion? Legacy Platforms? Wrong forum bro.

Steameffekt

Aw, don't hate just because the PS2 still sells... Why, it was still occasionally outseling the 360 in worldwide quarterly reports as recently as last year... :shock:

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#4 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="kuraimen"][QUOTE="eboyishere"]

People are still going on about this......

eboyishere

This. When do we get the discussion only thread and people dissing the game start to get modded?

Honestly been waiting on it. But I find it funny how the forza 4 and BF3 were reset within a day, yet this is stiill going on.

The FM4 Hype thread was locked and the "Discussion Thread" stickied on the fourth day of the Forza Flopocalypse. Asfor BF... I haven't been paying attention... Did it get a new thread? I saw it get locked for a few minutes earlier, but I thought the same thread just got unlocked a few minutes later...

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#5 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Chutebox"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]At least the majority of its exclusives weren't flops.shinrabanshou

Yes, that's what really matters. :roll:

I don't see how two out of eleven amounts to any sort of majority... it's the same proportion of flops as the 360 this year.

No, no, Shinra... PS3 didn't only have 2 flops. KZ3 flopped, Socom4 Flopped, because it was only hyped AE because Cows were intentionally underhyping it to play it safe, Infamous was hyped AAAAAAE, and only got AE, so it counts as two flops, R3 flopped, because it didn't even break 1 million sales in its first week. MLB, Yakuza, Motorstorm, Disgaea and Ratchet all flopped so bad they didn't even have hype. And Uncharted flopped because it didn't get 9.5. LBP2 flopped, because it's too kiddy. So as you can see, PS3 actually had 12 flops this year. Out of 11 games. 360, on the other hand... Gears3 didn't flop, and is the highest scoring game of the year, 9.5, Forza didn't flop, because the reviewer said it's better than Forza 3, and it has a 91 on Metacritic. Gunstringer, Sesame Street, and Dance Central didn't flop, because Kinect games that score AAE+ are like bonuses... nobody even knew about them, but they turned out to be great games, so everyone with a 360 will probably buy them and play them. PS3: 12 flops. 360: 0 flops.

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#6 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Kinect ones were just for fun :P

Still, Halo Wars, Mass Effect and Forza 4 were as 'underrated' here as...say...InFamous 2.

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Halo Wars was underrated pretty bad here. Forza 4 was under here by 6 points compared to the MC (8.5 vs 91) Which I guess is about as close to infamous 2 (underrated by 8 points) as, say... Uncharted 3 is to Forza 4... Cherry picking a few examples though, especially when over half your examples are underrated by less than 5 points, really doesn't mean anything. I'd be much more convinced if you did something like took every exclusive released on both platforms and compared the scores to the MC... Of course that would show GS scores tending above the industry average on 360, and below it on PS3...

I think it's great that GS is bellow the compiled fanboy sites. Their review scores should be. I wish they were a little more honest, but then people would get upset. Then upset turns to people leaving GS. Which is the opposite of what GS wants. There doesn't seem to be any consistency.

I don't have any problem at all with them being below the agregate. If GS was consistently below the agregate on all games, or just had a random scatter of scores above and below, that'd be perfectly cool. I mean, I certainly don't think they should be exactly the same as the agregate on every game or anything... What people complain about is what you said: consistency. If GS was consistently above or below by a similar margin on all platforms, it'd be just a matter of GS is easier or tougher, compared to the average. But if they trend above the average for games on one platform, and below it for games on a different platform, it starts to raise questions. Maybe GS favors the 360, and scores their games a little higher. Or maybe GS thinks the PS3 is a better machine, and has higher standards for PS3 games. Maybe the entire review industry favors the PS3, and the divergence is caused by GS being the only site to get it right. I dunno. I make no attempt to explain the reason, I just crunch numbers.

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#7 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Kinect ones were just for fun :P

Still, Halo Wars, Mass Effect and Forza 4 were as 'underrated' here as...say...InFamous 2.

Slashless

Halo Wars was underrated pretty bad here. Forza 4 was under here by 6 points compared to the MC (8.5 vs 91) Which I guess is about as close to infamous 2 (underrated by 8 points) as, say... Uncharted 3 is to Forza 4... Cherry picking a few examples though, especially when over half your examples are underrated by less than 5 points, really doesn't mean anything. I'd be much more convinced if you did something like took every exclusive released on both platforms and compared the scores to the MC... Of course that would show GS scores tending above the industry average on 360, and below it on PS3...

don't forget blue dragon, 79 Metacritic, 6 out of 10 here.

Or Fuzion Frenzy 2. 49 MC, 7/10 here.

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[QUOTE="CanYouDiglt"]I think the depressing fact is it is still a AAA game but they are raging because Gears scored more. It is kinda sad how for some it matters more that their console of choice beats their enemy console then the game itself.shinrabanshou

Beside a few people, the only comments that even bring up Gears 3 are comments like yours. Or random Gears 3>Uncharted 3 comments. Which ultimately lead to pointless redundant back and forths about the two games.

There are more people complaining about people complaining, than there are people complaining.

You noticed that too? The number of cows complaining about Uncharted getting a 9 is much less than the number of lems bashing it for only getting a 9, and also less than the number of people bashing cows for complaining that it only got a 9...

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#9 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

Halo Wars: GS - 6.5, Industry average - 8.2

Left 4 Dead 360: GS - 8.5, Industry average - 8.9

Mass Effect 360: GS - 8.5, Industry average - 9.1

Gears of War 2: GS - 9.0, Industry average - 9.3

Shadow Complex: GS - 8.5, Industry average - 8.9

Forza Motorsport 4: GS - 8.5, Industry average - 9.2

even

Sesame Street: Once Upon a Monster: GS: 8.0, Industry average - 8.3

Dance Central 2: GS - 8.5, Industry average - 8.6

Kinect Sports Season Two: GS - 6.5, Industry average - 6.8

:lol:

I allways love this 'conspiracy theory' against PS3 lolol

PAL360

The differences in score you used are pretty small, really save for a couple of them--ME, and Halo Wars. GS is well within the error margin with most of those, kind of bad examples to use... :P

Kinect ones were just for fun :P

Still, Halo Wars, Mass Effect and Forza 4 were as 'underrated' here as...say...InFamous 2.

Halo Wars was underrated pretty bad here. Forza 4 was under here by 6 points compared to the MC (8.5 vs 91) Which I guess is about as close to infamous 2 (underrated by 8 points) as, say... Uncharted 3 is to Forza 4... Cherry picking a few examples though, especially when over half your examples are underrated by less than 5 points, really doesn't mean anything. I'd be much more convinced if you did something like took every exclusive released on both platforms and compared the scores to the MC... Of course that would show GS scores tending above the industry average on 360, and below it on PS3...

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#10 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]What Forza thread did you read? From the minute it flopped, Lems and Forza fans called it a terrible review and constantly posted MC average and other review scores... Stevo_the_gamer
I saw a couple folks posting Metacritic, but calling the review terrible? Hmm, that I did not see. lol

You didn't see people complaining about how he docked it a point for not being "different enough" even though he said it was better than 3 in pretty much every way? I guess "terrible" wasn't the right word, but for the first few days there were definitely some people pretty mad about the score.