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#1 ianuilliam
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AAE !!!! :D :) :D

Now I'll have none of this flopzers stuff people, this game actually surpassed expectations if you all would be honest. :o

But I know, I know, technically and in accordance with Marcus of Queensberry rules, :twisted: it flopped like a fish outa water. :P

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Yep. Another case of a game that's a flop according to the rules of the land, but is a great game with a great score. (Even if I still think it deserves a little higher.)

Also, "YOU GOT YOU WHATSIT IN ME COOKIE!!!"

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#2 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]

TBH Witcher 2 was planned multiplatform from the very beggining

There is also a distict difference between a game i can never get on 360 (a real exclusive) and a game i will be playing on 360 in a few months (timed exlusive)

So, how do you make the distiction between the two ? Not by calling them exclusives for sure

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Yet, there was no announcement of such. Announcements of porting levels is not any kind of official "we're releasing on consoles". Furthermore, plans often get changed, e.g. The Witcher Rise of the White Wolf.

Distinct difference, yes. Still exclusive? Yes. Otherwise the word wouldn't be used. It's still on one system for a period of time (just like all exclusives, if they do not remain that way).

You make the distinction by calling them two different things, "exclusive" and "timed-exclusive", regardless, both are still only available for one system, which is what the MetaGame takes into account. Can you stop jumping around with your argument now and just give up.

It'll become multiplat upon release of the 360 version. Like I said, this is how it worked for Mass Effect at the beginning of this generation. Or will you just ignore that?


Well, whatever, i dont even know what MetaGame you are constantly talking about is TBH or its rules, so maybe by those rules it stands as exclusive

Though after a game is announced for more than one systems, i (and the whole world) call it multiplatform, so i dont agree at all with those rules, it should be clearly stated that is timed exclusive, that is all, because calling it exclusive like a real exclusive is laughable

Now, what abour Crysis ? That one is released, isnt it ?

Dude. Seriously. When a game is released on only one system, it is an exclusive. Even if it is only a "timed" exclusive, and has been announced on other systems, it still counts as an exclusive until it comes out. Gears of War was a 360 exclusive the year it came out and won GotY. It didn't stop being an exclusive until the pc version was released. Mass Effect 1 was a 360 exclusive. Until it released on PC. The Witcher 2 is still a PC exclusive. And will be, until it is released on another system. Comparing that to ME3, and trying to call that a 360 exclusive, because the pc and ps3 versions aren't out yet, makes you look ridiculous. It's not out on 360 yet either. If it does release on 360 first, you can call it exclusive until another version comes out. Say it comes out on a Tuesday on 360, and the PS3/PC versions don't come out till Wednesday... you can run around talking about it being a 360 exclusive all you want... for that one day. Until then, it is nothing like the situation at hand, and trying to bring it up is just... come on...

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#3 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

well, my first statement it doesn't refer to "ANY PC" but in "a PC". "a PC" can be interpret as only one or many but not all of them.

also with that logic i can say:"even if you have a pc from 2011, you already know it can play any game better than consoles."

and you answer: "no because there are pc's that don't even have GPU"

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Yeah. Since "a pc from 2006" isn't specified, when you make a statement (or use it in a conditional) as long as there is at least one that qualifies the statement or conditional is true. So the statement "a pc from 06 is better than consoles" is true because there is a pc that makes it true. And the conditional "if you have a pc from 06" is met by any pc from 06... which in turn makes the statement "if you have a pc from 06, you know it is better than consoles" false. And yes, that also makes the statement "if you have a pc from 2011, you know it is better than consoles" false. I can buy a pc right now that is not better than consoles, thus I can have a pc from 2011, and not know it is better than consoles.

Once again i am not referring to any pc. just because you don't have a pc capable of playing games, that doesn't mean that this statements is false, because their are others that have a pc from 2006 that can play games better than consoles.

Hey, it's all good. You MEANT something different from what you said. Easy enough to just say "Oh, yeah, my bad. THIS is what I MEANT to say." But trying to say a statement that, according to the actual rules of the English language and logic, is technically false... is true, doesn't actually make it so. "If you have a dog, you know it is white." That is a false statement. Even though there are some white dogs, so it might be true for SOME people, the statement can not be considered to be universally true, because someone could have a dog, and it not be white. This sentence is IDENTICAL in structure to your own. "If you have a pc from 2006, you know it is better than consoles." No. That is incorrect. You can SAY you aren't referring to any pc, but when you say "if you have a pc from 2006..." you are, literally, saying that anyone that has a pc from 2006--ANY pc from 2006 at all--knows it plays games better than consoles. By the very definition of conditionals, or IF-THEN statements, IF the condition set forth is met, THEN the result will happen. So if you ask someone "Do you have a pc from 2006?" and they say "Yes I do," then the result "you know it plays games better than consoles" should be true. If it isn't, then your sentence is false. I know I must sound like a broken record going on about something so nit-picky, but come on. I'll sit and argue with someone all day over the color of the sky if they keep telling me that when they said it was green, they were right because it's green for people who happen to be wearing green tinted sunglasses. Cool story, but it's not what you said.

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#4 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="carlisledavid79"]In all fairness yes this thread was satire but I don't think anyone expected this game to score as highly as it did as well. Also would anyone have cared if had scored less than an even a 7?AngryJuice

Personally, if it had scored 7 or less here, I'd have put it in the same category as Uncharted, Infamous 2, and Tools of Destruction... Games that are severly under-rated here, compared to their Metacritic and overall quality and polish.

Don't forget Halo Wars.

I was going to add that, but I have no personal feelings about it personally, and thought, being a cow, my post would carry more weight if I stuck to ps3 exclusives. But yeah.

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#5 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="ianuilliam"]

[QUOTE="carljohnson3456"] I agree. I really hate Kinect... but this stuff is for children. Let the kids have their fun. WilliamRLBaker

Right? I've got a two year old... and if this was on PS3, it would be a day-one purchase. That says a lot... I've only bought like 1-2 games on day one this gen... I can hold off and wait for games that I really want like Space Marine, Dark Souls, Uncharted... But I'll do without whatever I need to to get something for my daughter... And if I did get it, I can almost guarantee I'd spend more time playing this with her over the next year than I would playing the games I want for myself too. If not for the fact that $350 (console, kinect, and game) is just way too much for one game when I doubt I'd ever bother getting anything else for it, I'd probably go out and buy a 360 for this. Hell, maybe I will anyway, before its over. Halo? Nah. Gears? Meh... Once Upon a Monster is the closest thing to being a 360 System Seller for me.

as compared to any other time before kinect was released and Once upon was announced you were a hardcore 360 user right? :roll:

WTH? Did you read what I wrote? I'm pretty sure I made it clear I don't have a 360... IF I did, I would have bought this game, and wouldn't be saying I wished it was on PS3, or that it's the only game so far to make me consider a 360 purchase... If you're thinking I'm being sarcastic and bashing this game, you must've missed where I've been supporting this game since it was first announced... Just because I'm a "cow" doesn't mean I'm automatically being sarcastic when I praise a dev like Tim Shafer for actually making a GOOD children's game.

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#6 ianuilliam
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ok lems. you go out and buy sesame street and dance central 2. I will buy infamous 2 and disgaea 4. then we can let the AAEs speak for themselves.

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Infamous2 and Disgaea4 are not AAEs... :?

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[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"]Wow that looked boring i guess it deserves an 8.0 for motion controls standards, seriously how did that POS score an 8.0 lol.carljohnson3456

I have to ask... Are you, or do you have, a child in the 2-5 age range? If not, your opinion about this game is about as valid as a deaf person's opinion on music. Just sayin.

I agree. I really hate Kinect... but this stuff is for children. Let the kids have their fun.

Right? I've got a two year old... and if this was on PS3, it would be a day-one purchase. That says a lot... I've only bought like 1-2 games on day one this gen... I can hold off and wait for games that I really want like Space Marine, Dark Souls, Uncharted... But I'll do without whatever I need to to get something for my daughter... And if I did get it, I can almost guarantee I'd spend more time playing this with her over the next year than I would playing the games I want for myself too. If not for the fact that $350 (console, kinect, and game) is just way too much for one game when I doubt I'd ever bother getting anything else for it, I'd probably go out and buy a 360 for this. Hell, maybe I will anyway, before its over. Halo? Nah. Gears? Meh... Once Upon a Monster is the closest thing to being a 360 System Seller for me.

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#8 ianuilliam
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In all fairness yes this thread was satire but I don't think anyone expected this game to score as highly as it did as well. Also would anyone have cared if had scored less than an even a 7?carlisledavid79
Personally, if it had scored 7 or less here, I'd have put it in the same category as Uncharted, Infamous 2, and Tools of Destruction... Games that are severly under-rated here, compared to their Metacritic and overall quality and polish.

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Wow that looked boring i guess it deserves an 8.0 for motion controls standards, seriously how did that POS score an 8.0 lol.TheGuardian03
I have to ask... Are you, or do you have, a child in the 2-5 age range? If not, your opinion about this game is about as valid as a deaf person's opinion on music. Just sayin.

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#10 ianuilliam
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"]Pretty ridiculous to try and criticise this for being a flop now. For one, the hype thread was full of joking around - no one taking it seriously. and it's clear we are not the intended demographic. It is however another quality exclusive to add to the 360's list! Nice.Austindro

Now I agree it's a quality exclusive, and wish it was on PS3... but that's kinda hypocritical.... If we shouldn't make fun of it for flopping because it's a kids game and not for us, then why should it count on teh 360 list? It's a kids game, and not for us...

He is talking about it not being a flop bc the hype thread was a joke.

That was ONE reason he said... Then, if you look closely, you'll see the word AND followed by the other reason he listed. Which is what I was responding to. That's why I bolded it, to make it clear which part I was responding to.