Um no. CFA's chicken isn't from one of those mass chicken factories that grow them without thier heads... or whatever it is they do. It is fast-food, but it's head and shoulders above any other fast-food joint in existence. The service is always amazing. Prices are on par with everywhere else. You pay $6 for a combo at CFA. You pay $6 for a similar deal at McD's or BK. The owner does not hate gay people! He never said anything about gay people. You all should really learn to read. He only said that the company was founded on said biblical principles and values... and, that these values are still supported today. He also affirmed that he believes in the biblical marriage. He never once uttered anything about gay people or gay marriage.He donates money to anti-gay organizations. You can't sugar coat that. So, why are people just now wanting to boycott them? Did CFA just start donating to these organizations? Yesterday? There's no proof that these groups are "anti-gay" either.[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="Netherscourge"]
Chick Fil-A is KFC chicken at double the price.
Seriously folks. It's just another fast-food joint. Only difference is the crazy prices, they're closed on Sundays and their owners hate gay people.
toast_burner
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What applications have you filled out that ask what your sexual oreintation is? You people...Pfft, think a little harder here. Your HIRING MANAGER doesn't have a problem with gay people. The CEO doesn't approve or deny every application personally. He doesn't know that your manager hires gay people or doesn't.
XilePrincess
Um no. CFA's chicken isn't from one of those mass chicken factories that grow them without thier heads... or whatever it is they do. It is fast-food, but it's head and shoulders above any other fast-food joint in existence. The service is always amazing. Prices are on par with everywhere else. You pay $6 for a combo at CFA. You pay $6 for a similar deal at McD's or BK. The owner does not hate gay people! He never said anything about gay people. You all should really learn to read. He only said that the company was founded on said biblical principles and values... and, that these values are still supported today. He also affirmed that he believes in the biblical marriage. He never once uttered anything about gay people or gay marriage.Chick Fil-A is KFC chicken at double the price.
Seriously folks. It's just another fast-food joint. Only difference is the crazy prices, they're closed on Sundays and their owners hate gay people.
Netherscourge
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[QUOTE="Teenaged"]The word "tolerance" and all its derived terms does not have special definitions or uses, like some other words may have. In any context it refers to one thing which I already explained. If the person I quoted did in fact have a more specific thing in mind when using the word then they are full of crap because they're fully aware of the actual definition.
In any case, the fact is you quoted meand I was explicitely referring to the word with its actual definition. You disagreed with the definition of the word. On second thoughts I will try to surpass you in idiocy in some following post of mine, because you desperately need someone as a diversion.
Teenaged
The dude you quoted said "Your side keeps asking for tolerance and open-mindedness, but you're not practicing what you're preaching. "
There is nothing that needs to be specified here, what he's referring to doesn't need Lagrange-level clairvoyance to be understood. If you are homosexual you of all people should know. People on "your side" ask for their behavior and beliefs to be tolerated by everyone, which is fine, but it's not willing to accept any criticism or questioning towards themselves, which is not quite as fine.
You quote him and speak of tolerance.
"explicitely referring to the word with its actual definition" made no sense within the entirety of your post.
At this point you're either being a bigot by deliberately choosing to b!tch about his non-existant genericness, or being terribly bad at wit.
So which is it? Are you being an idiot, or are you being an idiot?
I gave you a specific example that explains why tolerance doesnt imply tolerance of everything. Then you pretty much responded in the end that tolerance only has to do with opinions. Which is not true. What else needs to be explained? Really now...Now that this is out of the way and you have decided to start an actual convo on whether or not "my side" can whine about tolerance, even though I didnt use the accusation, lets see...
Simply saying "I do not like gay marriage" is being tolerated. People have freedom of speech and they can say what they want. What my side doesnt tolerate is those people trying to impose their negative view of it via laws. We wouldnt have those sort of discussion if we didnt have, for instance, prop 8 several years ago. Now either you realise the difference between trying to impose something via laws and asking for that something to not be imposed via laws, or be prepared to look like a major hypocrite for calling me an idiot.
Well, aren't the GBLT's trying to impose their view of it via laws? You talk about free speech, but Dan Cathy is being attacked for practicing just that. He did not condemn anyone or anything. The words gay marriage were never spoken. Tolerance is about understanding that you have a different set of ideals than I do, and being okay with that while not necessarily agreeing on those ideals. But, your side continues to lump everyone that doesn't agree with your ideals together as bigots, backwards, and ignorant. That is not the tolerance that your side keeps asking for. Let's be clear about one more thing. Anything that requires the purchase of a licsence is a priviledge... not a right.You got a Scripture to back that up? I can't seem to find it in my Bible...[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] ? So you think a rape victim should marry her rapist.tenaka2
God, why did you bump this abortion?
Hahaha. I felt I should respond to those that responded to me. Trying to practice good forum etiquette.Obama only came out in "support" of it because of another Biden gaff. Obama's is on record for being on both sides of this issue... depending on what kind of impact it will have on his campaign. It's purely a political move that he came out publicly in "support" of this. Here's the bigger question... Why does the government even care who gets married? I too am a conservative Christian, and believe in the biblical model of marriage. But, I also don't think this something that should be voted on. Voting on it isn't going to change anything. If anything, we Christians need to focus more on producing strong families within the church. Then our message will have more power behind it. I paid my $70 to the state and got married 5 years ago. But, that has zero relevance in my marriage. Why do we care that the state recognizes my marriage? Having an opposing view towards same-sex marriage doesn't make one ignorant or bigoted. It just makes them stand behind a different set of ideals. Just because a few people disagree with those ideals doesn't make them wrong. Just different. Take for instance Mr. Cathy of Chick-fil-a. He never once said that he condemned gay marriage. He just stated the biblical principles and values that CFA uses to run it's business. He said one of those values is the biblical model for marriage. I've seen the full quote on various sources, and he never once condemned anyone or anything. But, people don't take the time to think for themselves and now we have this big uproar from the gay community and the mayors of Boston and Chicago.[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="slowpokebro"]Why do republicans keep insisting marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman? And why do republicans keep insisting that marriage is DEFINED as such? There are no traditions to uphold and I never see anyone reference the guidelines to homosexual marriage in any texts. And even if it is in some text, then why can men and women of different faiths also marry? If a god said homosexual marriage is wrong, then marriage between a man in a woman of a different faith should also not be allowed, right? It makes me cringe when I hear a republican say that they THINK or BELIEVE marriage is DEFINED as a union of a only a man and a woman. Defined by who??? :evil: At least Obama came out to show he values the rights of the people moreso than Romney.theone86
Translation: When public opinion supports our position we can decide it by referrendum, but when it turns against our opinion it shouldn't be voted on.
Your translation is incorrect.Obama only came out in "support" of it because of another Biden gaff. Obama's is on record for being on both sides of this issue... depending on what kind of impact it will have on his campaign. It's purely a political move that he came out publicly in "support" of this. Here's the bigger question... Why does the government even care who gets married? I too am a conservative Christian, and believe in the biblical model of marriage. But, I also don't think this something that should be voted on. Voting on it isn't going to change anything. If anything, we Christians need to focus more on producing strong families within the church. Then our message will have more power behind it. I paid my $70 to the state and got married 5 years ago. But, that has zero relevance in my marriage. Why do we care that the state recognizes my marriage? Having an opposing view towards same-sex marriage doesn't make one ignorant or bigoted. It just makes them stand behind a different set of ideals. Just because a few people disagree with those ideals doesn't make them wrong. Just different. Take for instance Mr. Cathy of Chick-fil-a. He never once said that he condemned gay marriage. He just stated the biblical principles and values that CFA uses to run it's business. He said one of those values is the biblical model for marriage. I've seen the full quote on various sources, and he never once condemned anyone or anything. But, people don't take the time to think for themselves and now we have this big uproar from the gay community and the mayors of Boston and Chicago. You're trying to hard to make the opposition of gay marriage sound "nice".[QUOTE="jshaas"][QUOTE="slowpokebro"]Why do republicans keep insisting marriage is ONLY between a man and a woman? And why do republicans keep insisting that marriage is DEFINED as such? There are no traditions to uphold and I never see anyone reference the guidelines to homosexual marriage in any texts. And even if it is in some text, then why can men and women of different faiths also marry? If a god said homosexual marriage is wrong, then marriage between a man in a woman of a different faith should also not be allowed, right? It makes me cringe when I hear a republican say that they THINK or BELIEVE marriage is DEFINED as a union of a only a man and a woman. Defined by who??? :evil: At least Obama came out to show he values the rights of the people moreso than Romney.Teenaged
Of course someone condemnds same-sex marriage when they fund anti-gay organisations and when they support biblical values relevant to marriage.
You dont have to hear someone say something verbatim to conclude it. I dont know if you are naive, but I am not.
The only thing I'm trying to do is point out the truth of the matter. Just because someone lives their life or runs their business according to biblical principles and values does not make them ignorant or bigotted. Disagreing with a lifestyle doesn't equal condemnation. If he really does live according to those values then he wouldn't condemn anyone for anything they do. The organizations CFA supports are pro-family... that's doesn't mean they're "anti-gay." Your side keeps asking for tolerance and open-mindedness, but you're not practicing what you're preaching.[QUOTE="worlock77"]
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For a sitting Mayor to tell the police force to go on strike has to be breaking a law. If it's not, that's nuts too. He's basically calling for the government to cut off essential services until the public gives up their 2nd amendment rights.
UnknownSniper65
So, what law has he violated? Unless you can cite a specific example he's just expressing his opinion and talking out of his ass (much like you).
While he might not have technically broke the law what he talked about is actually illegal for NYC public unions to do (ironically enough)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taylor_Law
Public unions are unconstitutional to begin with and that's only part of the problem. Saying public employees should strike is stupid. Public employees have no rights to strike.
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