to get average 45 FPS on very high.....I'm guessing a lot of money. MikeE21286
Ok, but i'll build fairly slowly..So where should i start? In what order should i buy the parts? Which parts are least likely to drop in price any time soon.
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to get average 45 FPS on very high.....I'm guessing a lot of money. MikeE21286
Ok, but i'll build fairly slowly..So where should i start? In what order should i buy the parts? Which parts are least likely to drop in price any time soon.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]IM confused by the purpose of this thread.
Is TC using this as another attempt to bash PC gaming, or really wants a new rig......... Interesting.
rimnet00
I'm serious. Do you know of any other SFF Cases that are liquid coolable besides the QMicra v2? Do mATX motherboards suck? What's the best mATX motherboard?
What's better for gaming? A E6850 or a Q6600?
Let me get this straight. You are asking about computer parts, on System Wars, while actually considering a liquid cooled system? All the while having made anti-PC posts in the past week :| I have a good feeling you are either about to throw away a ton of money, or you are attempting to make a half baked argument against PCs.
Why would buying a gaming computer be considered throwing money away? :P
meh Blu ray is still the way to go
IMO a $99 hd dvd player which doesnt even do 1080p isnt worth it
niall077
If you were the videophile your pretending to be you'd make sure to get a HDTV that properly deinterlaces 1080i anyway..
IM confused by the purpose of this thread.
Is TC using this as another attempt to bash PC gaming, or really wants a new rig......... Interesting.
skrat_01
I'm serious. Do you know of any other SFF Cases that are liquid coolable besides the QMicra v2? Do mATX motherboards suck? What's the best mATX motherboard?
What's better for gaming? A E6850 or a Q6600?
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]Easier to look at charts :lol:
Dreams-Visions
OMGWTFBBQ!
11fps on very high at times? 16fps on high at times?
Jesus Hubert Christ. that thing EATS computers. I wonder how much power its drawing. :shock:
Average 41FPS for a GTX 1024x768 @ High DX10, 2GB PC6400, X2 6400+ (Above graph)
Average 28FPS for a 8800 GTS @ 1280x1024, 2GB PC8500, E6600 @ High DX9 (below graph)
Seems about right..
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]Wow... good job not reading again.
Bebi_vegeta
You're doing a better jb of being ignorant. What exactly does that comma change?
Full 128 channel,uncompressed PCM 24/96 s
How does that imply him saying 128 uncompressed channel, unless he said that... did he?
The comma is a valuable, useful punctuation device because it separates the structural elements of sentences into manageable segments.
Than how many channels of Uncompressed PCM 24/96 audio was he talking about? :|
You're reaching..Just stop..
The guy probably meant to say "128 voices" and saying "128 channels" instead just proves how clueless he is.
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]And what does 128 channel of uncompressed audio ??? Huh? what? nothing, oh that's what i taught!
Bebi_vegeta
Exactly..Nothing does 128 channels of uncompressed audio..I'm not the one that made such a stupid claim..:|
That was DMWhiteDragon..read the above text in yellow...
Full 128 channel,uncompressed PCM 24/96 s
Yes, learn to read...
WOA MY BAD!! A COMMA! THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!! :lol:
128 Channels x 24 bit x 96Khz sample rates = 294.9 MBps :lol:
SPDIF (optical out) has a maximum audio bandwidth of 1.5Mbps
HDMI has a maximum audio bandwidth of 36.86Mbps (8 channels, 48 bit, 96Khz) or (8 channel 24 bit, 192Khz)
Wow... good job not reading again.
You're doing a better jb of being ignorant. What exactly does that comma change?
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]And what does 128 channel of uncompressed audio ??? Huh? what? nothing, oh that's what i taught!
Bebi_vegeta
Exactly..Nothing does 128 channels of uncompressed audio..I'm not the one that made such a stupid claim..:|
That was DMWhiteDragon..read the above text in yellow...
Full 128 channel,uncompressed PCM 24/96 s
Yes, learn to read...
WOA MY BAD!! A COMMA! THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING!! :lol:
128 Channels x 24 bit x 96Khz sample rates = 294.9 MBps :lol:
SPDIF (optical out) has a maximum audio bandwidth of 1.5Mbps
HDMI has a maximum audio bandwidth of 36.86Mbps (8 channels, 48 bit, 96Khz) or (8 channel 24 bit, 192Khz)
[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="DMWhiteDragon"]Whatever speaker setup you have in your living room you can have on your PC To get the absolute BEST experiance in sound in gaming you need a PC ;) as only a programmable unit allows for extra filtering. If you ONLY have a viable setup in your living room you can always move the PC into the living room and use wireless KB/M there is even special boards for this exact purpose, nevermind the handyness of using Media Center with some custom written filters for increasing ALL dvd's to 1080p without having to buy a fancy unit for it and upscaling TV and radio sound etc... Back to gaming, you should prob read this: http://www.soundblaster.com/products/x-fi/technology/gamers/ "X-Fi Crystalizer takes your gaming audio and reconstructs it up to 24-bit quality - so your games have never sounded so pure & real!" Now a quick lesson just for those who dont know. If i record sound in CD quality i can encode that to any format i like including 24/192khz studio quality... however it wont sound any better than the source material so just because your game is TrueHD or DD or DTS/ES it doesn't mean the sound is pure studio quality at the source ;) (tho it doesn't mean it isn't either) Now.... TrueHD is COMPRESSED... stop saying its uncompressed sound... if you have a pure PCM stream in all channels only then would you be able to say its uncompressed. Lossless is 'just as good' but its a compression technique, OK? Now EAX allows for far better 'realism' than any encoded stream... why is this? because EAX allows you to position audio sources ANYWHERE IN THE 3D WORLD. Thats right... you can place 128 individual sounds at the exact same time anywhere in the world and distance/material/reflecting etc are all calculated accurately. Then its calculated out over whatever speaker config you have setup and sent as uncompressed data right to them (those the sources are generally not pure studio quality). Now because of the X-Fi card upsampling all sound back to 24/96 (and yes we know its not 100% perfect but if you have one you know its pretty damn close! best sound card *ever* for anything related to sound under studio quality sources) and we have EAX allowing for perfect in-game recreations. So what do PC gamers get on any speakers they want? Full 128 channel, uncompressed PCM 24/96 studio quality sound with full perfect positioning/material/refracting from *every* game. I own a 360 and it doesn't sound anywhere NEAR as good as my PC on the exact same speakers. So auguing about speakers at all is kind of pointless esp when yout HT speakers can be hooked up to the PC anyway... its a moot point.Bebi_vegeta
128 Channel Uncompressed Audio? :lol: Do you realize 128 Channels of Uncompressed Audio calculatues to at the very least 98.3MBps bitrates? :lol: (16 bit x 24 sample rate x 128 channels = 98.3 MBps ) 2 minutes worth of 128 Channel Uncompressed 16/24 audio would fill up a DVD :lol:
TrueHD is not lossless? :lol:
Who's arguing that PC games don't have better audio than 360? Neither PC nor 360 games have lossless audio, only PS3 can output lossless audio. And only about a dozen PS3 games have lossless audio. Why do you think only some PS3 games have lossless audio? Because the lossless audio has to be on the disk, hardware can't change regular surround sound into uncompressed surround sound. What's on the disk is the best your going to get period. Heavanly Sword alone has over 10GB of audio.
This guy says alot... but he never brings proof... wonder why?
128 Channel Uncompressed Audio :lol:
I shouldn't have to counter such stupid claims with proof..
Do you know how to calculate for audio bitrates? You multiply sample rate x bit sample x number of channels.
CD Audio is 16 bit, 44Khz, and 2 channels. So what would be the bitrate for CD Audio?
And what does 128 channel of uncompressed audio ??? Huh? what? nothing, oh that's what i taught!
Exactly..Nothing does 128 channels of uncompressed audio..I'm not the one that made such a stupid claim..:|
That was DMWhiteDragon..read the above text in yellow...
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