seriously, I cant believe some people actually believe this crap. you guys it is from UK Resistance, do the maths. anyway, haters would believe anything, as along as it pleases their ears.xxThyLordxx

Hmm,  i have a reponse for that.  But i can't type it or i'll get modded...These forums suck :cry: 

haha 

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"]

There is a poll in the HD-DVD section at avsforum.com asking if they are still getting a Elite 360 even tho it does not output uncompressed/lossless audio. 78% of the voters are no longer getting the elite because it doesn't output lossless/uncompressed audio.

I started the poll at avsforum, and im really upset about this! WTF is the point of half-assed HDMI if can only do half it's job? I hope Sony takes advantage of this and with the right marketing, this could be a blow to the Xbox 360.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=827835

Riverwolf007

No  :|

[QUOTE="Darth_DuMas"]

Plus why an Audio/videophile would use something like a 360/PS3 for this is beyond me. The components that Audio/videophiles use isn't just high tech, every aspect of the insides have been designed with the highest materials, the least interference and most solid construction to reduce vibration interference to a minimum. Not even the PS3 could live up to those standards.

Both are entry level players in that market. A proper player for audio or video would destroy the X360 or PS3.

Even using it for space saving reasons would be too much of a compromise.

jdang307

The PS3 is a really good BD player,  but the ony site i saw make comparison was comparing it to the sorriest BD player out on the market,  the Samsung BD player. 

DVD doesn't even support Lossless Audio. Plus no game on PC,PS3, or 360 have that anyway. BD is using uncompressed PCM audio, though with a lower sampling rate... so it's not what you would call true loseless. 3-4 titles with Dolby TrueHD tracks. FYI - This is a true loseless codec with bitrates up to 8mb/sec. This COULD come to Blu-ray, though it's virtually impossible on a 25gig disc with MPEG2 video. The Blu-ray camp has some serious catching up to do on the software side of things. As thedigitalbits.com's Bill Hunt says, "HD DVD is making Blu-ray look pretty silly right now."rexoverbey

Resistance:  Fall of Man outputs up to 7.1 uncompressed audio:|.  Uncompressed and Lossless are the same damn thing.  BD and HD players decode TrueHD and DTS-HD lossless audio and convert it to uncompressed LPCM.  Think of TrueHD and DTS-HD as zip files for uncompressed LPCM

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="ZimpanX"]

I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible

PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite

HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1

Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2

Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2

Included chargecable Yes No 2-2

Included headset No Yes 2-3

Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3

Total price 500 480 3-4

Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package

 

this is only how I see it though

asdasd

Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.

I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.

What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $350. 360 Elite + peripherals = $830

What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700

In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).

You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor, it's only $12 dollars online.

ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3, since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...

Oh yeah, and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI? Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..

Upscaling DVD player? BluRay movie?

The PS3 will eventually be able to upscale DVDs to HD after a firmware update.

But until then you have to add the cost of an upscaling DVD player to the PS3... 

[QUOTE="tegovoltio"][QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]gamers don't care.X360PS3AMD05

Any home theater setup with a HDMI receiver would benefit from uncompressed/lossless audio 

[QUOTE="m3Boarder32"][QUOTE="WARRZONE"][QUOTE="ZimpanX"]

I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible

PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite

HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1

Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2

Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2

Included chargecable Yes No 2-2

Included headset No Yes 2-3

Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3

Total price 500 480 3-4

Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package

 

this is only how I see it though

WARRZONE

Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite? If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price). Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points). I like using money comparisons better than points.

I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it. Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.

What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100). Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $350. 360 Elite + peripherals = $830

What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50). Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine. PS3 + peripherals = $700

In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).

You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor, it's only $12 dollars online.

ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3, since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...

Oh yeah, and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI? Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..

Upscaling DVD player?  BluRay movie? 

[QUOTE="ZimpanX"]

I'll try to make this as a fair comparasion as possible

PS3 Core Xbox 360 Elite

HDD 20GB (upgradable) 120GB 0-1

Included HD cables None Component, HDMI 0-2

Blu-Ray Yes No 1-2

Included chargecable Yes No 2-2

Included headset No Yes 2-3

Online Free 50 a year (free first 30 days) 3-3

Total price 500 480 3-4

Winner: Xbox 360 Elite (based on what you get in package) then it waries depending on what accessories/add-ons people would like to add to each package

 

this is only how I see it though

WARRZONE

Why are you comparing the core PS3 to the 360 Elite?  If you want to compare cores, PS3 wins hands down (except in price).  Also, I don't find this comparison is very accurate because it's not weighted properly (ie headset, which you can get anywhere for cheap, is less than Blu-Ray, which should be worth more points).  I like using money comparisons better than points.

I'm going to repeat what you said, except put a price tag on it.  Also, I'm adding Wi-Fi as a factor because I'm going to compare the top SKUs.

What 360 is missing: HD movie playback ($200), charge cable ($20), free online ($50), Wi-Fi ($100).  Total price of 360's missing peripherals: $370.  360 Elite + peripherals = $850

What PS3 is missing: 120GB HDD ($120; although, 60GB is enough), HDMI ($50 or much less on monoprice.com), Bluetooth headset (~$50).  Total price of missing PS3 peripherals: $100 if you like the hard drive just fine.  PS3 + peripherals = $700

In the end, PS3 is a much better value price wise (even if you buy a bigger hard drive).

You don't have to get the official USB WiFi adaptor from MS...You can pick up any USB Wifi adaptor,  it's only $12 dollars online.

ALso since you included the HD-DVD drive for the 360 that means you now have to include a movie and a BD remote for the PS3,  since the HD-DVD drive comes with both...

Oh yeah,  and did i mention the Elite 360 upscales DVD's up to 1080p via HDMI?  Add another $100 dollars for the PS3..