All I have to say is this........

They're usually cheaper that way.Cherokee_Jack

if you wanna buy them used just buy them new at gamestop :D

no but seriously I used to but now with disk scratching and alot of stuff it's better to buy them new and it's not like u save alot it's like 5 or 6 dollars many times

as far as news reports guerilla games and sony are happy with the results of killzone 2 over a mil is a good number the only ones who think it's bad is fanboys on this site like the TP

I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy

yea the most popular and guess who that was BUSH lol

yea this nation makes so many rational decisions ;)

I like to think of it like a Presidential race. You race the Popular vote (sales) and the Electoral vote (critics) People "vote" with their money and critics "vote" with their opinions. It's kind of silly to call a console or system a "winner" because a handful of people like a game (reviewers) as opposed to the millions who actually BUY the game and console.VideoGameGuy

so then we should call wii play or 50 cent the best games ever made ;)

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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Seriously, they rank IMO

Based off of games (counting GS/GR):
PC > 360 > PS3 > Wii

Based off of sales:
Wii > 360 > PSP

There is no clear cut winner this gen.

Lionheart08

why did you put psp? >_>

While the typo is blatantly obvious I'll choose instead to go with a snarky, sarcastice response instead:

Clearly the PSP is superior to the PS3 in every shape and form. It should be Sony's primary hardware for this gen. ;)

^^^ fanboy alert lol

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[QUOTE="moose_knuckler"]Well I believe the last few generations did count sales because they normally had the better gaming library (personally I thought Xbox's library was better after GTA went over to it). Not of which being the case for the Wii_SWAG_

Last Gen, it was easy, PS2 had SALES and the most AAA, AA, and A's...not to mention the most AAAE's, AAE's, and AE's.

Our personal tastes aside, it was easy to call a winner.

And the Winner is WII :D

lets party to celebrate

Despite having 3 Goty's and some of our greatest exclusives ever, last generation we Nintendo fans sucked it up and accepted that our console finished in third because of sales without protest.

Enter this generation. Where roles have reversed and Nintendo is now the sales king again and Sony is in the unfortunate position of being the lagger in terms of sales... N-E-V-E-R have I heard more crying about how sales shouldn't determine the winner of the console war. Never have I heard so many tired excuses and cliches like "you can't play sales" come up every time sales are mentioned.

Do you think the media, or anyone involved in the industry is going to say the 360 or PS3 won at the end of this gen because they had the most Goty's or AAA e's at the end of this gen? No. They're going to say the Wii won because it sold the most just like any other generation.

C'mon. Take it like men.

Sorry, but the rules do not change for the last place console just because the majority of people on this board happen to be fanboys of that console.

TheNextOrder

It's funny how the roles are reversed last gen you had the games but not the sales this gen you got the sales but not the games.

well 360 did break a record it is currently the most unreliable gamingconsole ever made

congrats microsift