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#1  Edited By michaelmikado
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@Pedro said:
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@Pedro:

Not this is not “just like” this is 100% factually incorrect.

You can play those Xbox games without Xbox live or Xbox anywhere or ever seeing or being on the Xbox platform or running them on anything that looks like, is, or emulates Xbox hardware. You either are flat out lying or know nothing about the technical requirements. The games run natively to the PC because they are ported. Don’t be an obtuse idiot about what a port is versus a glorified RDP session. You can run those games with out any Xbox platform usage whatsoever. You can’t run Bloodborne without using the PlayStation platform. Period.

Not they aren’t console exclusives and who cares. They are exclusive to the Playstation platform by every measure of what steaming exclusives mean. That’s not debatable.

Wow! Do you read comments before responding or do you see words and are triggered to respond because something doesn't fit your agenda?You didn't realize that I am talking about the branding. Playstation is a the brand just like Xbox is a brand. Stating Playstation games is akin to stating Xbox games. You can play Xbox games on the PC via Xbox Play Anywhere support and in the future Xcloud. Good job missing the point.

No you cannot seem to grasp the basics of software development. Exclusivity is based on the development and business side of the game development. Not literally the device you are playing on that why your redefinition is absurd because absolutely no one in either the game industry defines exclusivity or platforms as the device you are physically playing on because that's absolutely idiotic.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Console_exclusivity

Console exclusivity refers to the status of a video game being developed for and released only on one particular video game console, or multiple consoles created by one video game firm.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodborne Platform(s) PS4

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gears_of_War_4 Platform(s) Microsoft Windows, Xbox One

Because literally every single game is listed by PLATFORM. Despite you play it on an iPhone or Android. It is NOT listed as a platform. Bloodborne has only ever been developed for and released only on PS4 despite being able to play it on a Vita, iPad,, PC, iPhone, etc. Literally every single developer, publisher, or anyone in games industry knows this. The PS4 has had remote play since its release so every game has been playable on PC since day one and not once was any of these games considered non-exclusive because defining it otherwise is idiotic. This is completely different versus something like Fortnite where its is actually developed for the platform.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fortnite

Platform(s)Windows, macOS, Nintendo Switch, PlayStation 4, Xbox One, iOS, Android

But look. This isn't even worth the discussion. At this point it's clear this thread is simply designed to disseminate false information and I'll make sure this is addressed and rectified.

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#2  Edited By michaelmikado
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@Pedro:

Not this is not “just like” this is 100% factually incorrect.

You can play those Xbox games without Xbox live or Xbox anywhere or ever seeing or being on the Xbox platform or running them on anything that looks like, is, or emulates Xbox hardware. You either are flat out lying or know nothing about the technical requirements. The games run natively to the PC because they are ported. Don’t be an obtuse idiot about what a port is versus a glorified RDP session. You can run those games with out any Xbox platform usage whatsoever. You can’t run Bloodborne without using the PlayStation platform. Period.

Not they aren’t console exclusives and who cares. They are exclusive to the Playstation platform by every measure of what steaming exclusives mean. That’s not debatable.

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@bluestars said:

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Did your hat come off?

When my comment went straight over your head!

Oh dear, I hope you didn’t stay up all night crafting that gem of a comeback... ?

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@Pedro said:

@michaelmikado: Its seems like your misread my comment and since then have gone on a tirade Zappat. :)

I'm sorry what is a Zappat?

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@Pedro said:

@michaelmikado: Don't let the truth upset you and your agenda. You already played yourself.

The entirety of the conversation has been taken over by your manic desire to redefine words. In this case are claiming incorrect information is truth. Its utterly embarrassing and pitiful.

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@Pedro said:

@michaelmikado: You can easily browse all of the comments I have made in this thread. None of it has been edited. You directly responded to it. If you conveniently forgot, that is your problem not mine. I am not repeating the comment I already made. Its there for you to read. So, acting as if am "afraid" is pretty silly since my comment is still in this thread about the issue. :)

EDIT: I know this Alt. LOL. You are the only one on the forum who is quick to call people coward. You are freaking Sony fanatic that has been banned. LOL. Too bad, I can't remember your original tag. You cried insistently about people flagging you some time ago.

Unfortunately none of this is true and again you make claims without evidence. It's quite a pity, I incorrectly assumed you may actually be game for discussion beyond the usual fanboy rambling. But alas fear and diversion tactics have overtaken you like the typical zealot and all that remains is the constant dodging and ducking of pertinent questions related to the topic. It must be terrible to hide and cower in fear from simply posts on an online gaming forum. It truly is a pity.

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@Pedro said:

@michaelmikado: Nope, it was stated already. Now, its time for you to do your homework. :)

Trust me it wasn't. Playing coy just proves intellectual cowardice. It's a simple question and shows a lack of confidence in your own claims. Anyone confident of their claims would have no trouble explaining such rather than spending page after page and post after post dodging. Its bizarre to fight so vehemently for a point, yet not state plainly what that actual point is... what are you afraid of?

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@michaelmikado: I stated it previously. If you took the time to read you would have known what I was stating from the start.

Please state it for the rest of the class please. I'm sure there are others interested in hearing what your are actually claiming and my have missed your "argument".

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#9  Edited By michaelmikado
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@Pedro said:
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So how would you describe the transaction mechanism and terms? Leasing? Because you certainly own neither the content nor the systems they run on. This isn't like Amazon Prime or Netflix where of you purchased Infinity War you could play it on a wide variety of devices. If you purchased Bloodborne for instance you can only play it one device and one device alone. So Please Please explain exactly what the transaction model and relationship between Sony and consumer is where the only way to access the game Bloodborne is to pay Sony money in one way or another.

The twisting you are doing is remarkable. You went from incorrectly arguing what is or is not exclusives. To service exclusives to Sony is getting your money one way or the other (the agenda is showing :) ). All of this jumping around because existing and future Sony games are planned to be accessible via streaming removing the games' exclusivity from the PS4 and PS5 hardware. LOL.

Now you want me to describe what a streaming service is to you because you magically lack the understanding of something so basic.

Nah!

So finally we are getting somewhere!!

Are you claiming that access to the games are not "exclusively" for PS4 & PS5 consoles or are you claiming that the games are not exclusives In the terms used by industry standards to describe them as being platform or service exclusive and which is understood by 99% of the populace? Because those are two different things.

Please tell me which you are actually saying because one is true and one is not.

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@Pedro said:
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So are you ready to engage in discussion or are you cowering? Lay out your argument plainly so that discussion can be had. Then we can lay the evidence against your argument. Its that simple yet you seem to be fearful of stacking your argument against evidence for some reason.

The argument was laid out exceptionally clear. Your inability to understand is your own. As I have said before feel free to review the discourse and challenge any of the statements to your liking. :)

Your argument is not. Otherwise you wouldn't have others in the thread also wanting you to lay out your argument clearly. The onus is on the presenter not the audience to put force a clear and concise argument for peer review. Try waving off your thesis statement to your readers and see how far you get. Again the onus is on you to present the argument clearly for presentation and that's what's being asked of you. Just to do the bare minimum.