What??? That's literally the opposite? It supports both Windows or Mac.

https://www.playstation.com/en-gb/explore/playstation-now/ps-now-on-pc/

Windows PC or laptop, you’ll have access to a huge library of incredible PS4, PS3 and PS2 games ready to stream and play whenever you want them.

@DragonfireXZ95:

Ignoring the fact that Gaikai is a service which holds software patents, not physical servers. PSNow performance on PS4 games and large depends on what you’re playing. Playing PS4 games streaming is bare minimum technically playable but not very enjoyable. Oddly enough Street Fighter seems to run well streaming.

Agreed, but for the sake of not getting into discussions about free trials and $1 dealz I prefer to go by the listed max price which is still crazy value for $20 and not owning a PS4, PS3, or PS2. I've never got to play Dark Cloud or Rogue Galaxy and since I can download them I remote play the heck out of them to my iPhone/iPad.

Its not important until cloud based path-tracing becomes a reality which is at least 5-10 years away.

There's no meltdown. You are comparing an unreleased tech demo to a fully released consumer product. I'll skip the theatrics and ask you again.

On October 29th (or November), how much with xCloud cost me to purchase and use the full product. What games can I play DAY ONE on October 29th (or November). What is the business model, what am I paying for. In November.

So, lets make an avatar bet. On October 29th, I will be able to use xCloud to play any of the 3500 games they have. Period. Is this correct? Yes or No?

None of which were in the Original post but let's play the game and what you snivel and slink away.

1) Sony uses and continues to use AWS and RackSpace. They will CONTINUE to use these services because they take the best hosting deal. Sony shopped around and MS offered the best deal. They will move to Google, or Amazon, or Azure or anybody they want to when they want to. They aren't getting Azure because they have no choice, there is an entire article about Sony going to Amazon to expand their deal, Amazon didn't want to drop their costs so they went to Microsoft. If MS wants to attempt to increase costs they go to Amazon or Google. They have the flexibility to play off of the competitors.

2)xCloud IS NOT RELEASING IN NOVEMBER YOU LYING FANBOY. They have a beta this year. That's all. They aren't releasing as a purchasable consumer product until 2020. Unless of course you are counting Console Streaming as "xCloud", which you explicitly said its not.

3)3500 hundred games is fantastic, at $200 a month or whatever it's going to cost. Is it a subscription model or a pay per game model?

This is the funniest part of this.

So, it is true that PSNow in its current state is not competitive for what is to come in November. The good news is that they are making changes to adapt to the situation.

What will be here in November??? Stadia is ONLY launching their Pro version in November with a total of 35 games....

xCloud won't even have a consumer option available, just a beta. And you STILLdon't know costs or business model of xCloud Azure servers even now.

Yet somehow, non-existent consumer products which will be unreleased in November or only a Pro tier which costs $10 a month, plus over $1500 to get all the available 35 games.. is somehow unable to compete IN NOVEMBER, to a streaming game service offering 800 games for $20 a month total.

Do you even read the stuff you are writing?

@Pedro:

What point am I avoiding?

I did pay attention, you started the conversation of using game count as a goalpost when the original post never mentions it.

So fine, I agree to play with the new goalpost by bringing it back to the ORIGINAL posters concerns of COST and you move the goalpost even farther by trying to completely ignore the concerns of COST that was in the original thread. You are ducking and dodging the cost question while simultaneously trying to trumpet a point the original poster never makes.

So again. How much is a subscription to 3500 games going to cost you??? What is the xCloud business model and how does it compare to PSNow???

Quit trying to slither out of it.

The original poster says PSNow isn't worth $20 when compared to upcoming offerings. How much are the upcoming offerings and what do you get for the price you will pay? Its a simply question.

There is no new goal post. This is the original quote of the thread.

PSNow is cost $20 Per month for just Game Streaming, there's nothing else, not even PS+, and no where near the other inclusion of other Sony services.

Unfortunately I see PSNow struggling against these types of subscription services where you can access multiple services, All in One Subscriptions.

The argument presented is that $20 is too much for what is delivered. So while xCloud could deliver "7x" the games (which isn't even true because PSNow has around 800 games). Will consumers pay 7x as much. i.e. $140 a month? You are trying to move the goalposts by ignoring the cost factor in the original post and trying to focus on game count which the original post NEVER mentions. You moved the goalposts so quickly didn't even realize it. If we take MS's current pricing model.. 200 games for $10. Then scaling to 3500 games would get close to $200 a month! That's why this is relevant because it directly addresses the original threads discussion about cost.

You can't ignore the "available games" without discussing the costs factor. If you have a subscriptions to all 3500 games then what does that cost? If you only have access to select games you purchase, then its not PSnow/Netflix subscription model, its similar to the Stadia business model.