@Landsharkk why don't you go and try to get on the original xbox live..just try it...you know their are like at least 20 ps2 games that are still playable on official servers..and live was a payed service..ms dumps on consumers

@Landsharkk and I'm judging the entire xbox live system...having everything run through microsoft is a bad idea

@Landsharkk tell me how you know?

@Landsharkk I feel like you're defending ms...just because they have a platform that fits and a business model that is set...and people give into it but later regret it..doesn't make ms correct...Microsoft have always milked anything..they don't need to charge for xbl..they don't need to charge 40 grand to get this past them again..its bureaucraticall lunacy with a nice little price tag on top. People have every right to judge ms for their services system...and I think its bull compared to many alternatives..they are just being assholes..phil is also just trying to milk something..anything but the are both in the corner

poor microsoft..I feel so bad for them..how they are so portrayed by the media...phhhh give me a break

@Landsharkk poor microsoft..lol give me a break..they are both in the wrong...fanboy

@Landsharkk ms and polytron are both assholes

@theshonen8899 yep..screw the middleman

@billwood661 I smell sarcasm

@dlCHIEF58 well..xbox live was launched in nov. of 2002..I imagine seganet was charging close to that time..the fact remains that microsoft doesn't NEED to charge for their servers but act like douches and do it anyways..sega was going under man and they NEEDED to charge for that service..they were already not doing well and didn't start off charging money like microsoft did..microsoft are cunts