[QUOTE="_AsasN_"][QUOTE="loco76"]

sure Microsoft did an Elite, sure they have 3 SKU's out there but its about choice and freedom of what i want not what i'm forced to buy because of a greedy company is not making enough profit out of their system :P loco76

It's not being "greedy".  Sony loses more money on the 20GB model than they do on the 60GB model.  When you combine that with the fact that it  sells poorly Sony is obligated to their share holders to make a responsible decision regarding their investment.  It has zero to do with greed. 

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"][QUOTE="ramey70"]

[QUOTE="ArisShadows"]I feel sorry for who who did buy a 20.TyrantDragon55

Why?

Obviously with 60 gigs being the main seller, it could cause lose sight of those previous owners, taking advantage of the higher HD.

But you can just replace the PS3's harddrive with a laptop harddrive.

Exactly. That's why I'm wondering why we should feel sorry for them.

[QUOTE="ramey70"]That wouldn't make it useless. It just doesn't provide a benefit that you want. For someone who wants a HD gaming console and movie player it actually fits that role quite well. dimar19

I have DVD. Why do I need BR player? To watch 5 good movies that it has to this moment?

It has more than that out and more on the way.   I use my PS3 almost exclusively for Bluray movie playback while using my 360 mainly for gaming.  I'd rather shove hot nails in my eyeballs than watch a DVD on my HDTV.   

I feel sorry for who who did buy a 20.ArisShadows

Why? 

[QUOTE="2largeadults"][QUOTE="dimar19"]

So now PS3 is totally dead.

If I buy one someday one it would be 20 Gb besides it has some completely useless stuf like BR for +100$ compare to X360. And now they want to sell +200$ even more useless stuff? LOL

dimar19

Bashing it because you cannot afford it.

Sigh.

I have around $4000 per month after taxes. But I don't buy useless things

That wouldn't make it useless.  It just doesn't provide a benefit that you want.  For someone who wants a HD gaming console and movie player it actually fits that role quite well. 

So now PS3 is totally dead.

If I buy one someday one it would be 20 Gb besides it has some completely useless stuf like BR for +100$ compare to X360. And now they want to sell +200$ even more useless stuff? LOL

dimar19

How is it totally dead if they got rid of a model that doesn't sell well at all? 

[QUOTE="meischris39"]Who would want the tard pack, besides Nintendo has 1 SKU and look how their business model turned out.TyrantDragon55

The PS3 20 gig model isn't a bad deal though, the only thing it's lacking is the bigger hard drive (which can easily be replaced with a larger laptop harddrive), WiFi (big deal), and HDMI (most people can't even take advantage of this). I was actually gonna buy the 20 Gig package.

The 20GB model had HDMI. 

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="snyper1982"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]It matters to some people, but I don't personally know of a single person who has a Blu-ray player or an HD-DVD player.snyper1982

At one point I was the first kids I new with a VHS and then I was the first kid I knew with a DVD player....Just because you don't know anyone that owns one does not mean that it not selling

Then why did they even buy an HDTV? Crap in, crap out.

That's exactly my point. Would you rather watch TV broadcasts in HD or SD? Same with media. Would you rather watch DVD or HD-DVD/Bluray? It's the exact same thing.

If I didn't already have a PS3, there is no way I would drop a ton of cash on a HD media player.... I would THINK about getting the HD-DVD drive for my 360, but I would not spend more than $200 on an HD player. Even though I own a 50" 1080P Samsung DLP set, I am fine with DVD on it.

Are you fine with regular SD digital cable broadcasts too, which are the same resolution as DVD's (480i)?

Yes. I am not paying the extra monthly fee for an HD package...

Then what is the point of owning and HDTV?  I'm baffled as to why you would do that.  It's like buying a 360 and ONLY playing original Xbox games on it. 

[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="ROLFCHANK"][QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Darthmatt"][QUOTE="HarlockJC"]

[QUOTE="Darthmatt"]It matters to some people, but I don't personally know of a single person who has a Blu-ray player or an HD-DVD player.ROLFCHANK

At one point I was the first kids I new with a VHS and then I was the first kid I knew with a DVD player....Just because you don't know anyone that owns one does not mean that it not selling

Then why did they even buy an HDTV? Crap in, crap out.

DVD's will look exactly the same as digital SD broadcasts since they are the same resolution.

Digital SD broadcasts are in 480p.  Analog broadcasts are in 480i. 

[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="tango90101"][QUOTE="casey7672"]

[QUOTE="deadmeat59"]wow for once a formate sony backed up is wining . UMD and beta max both floped big time . i do find hat hd dvd have a better line u p!tango90101

They got smart, they built it in the PS3 unlike Betamax:)

while selling as good as all $600 consoles sold, ie; last place....

yup.. i also figured out it'll take more than a last place toy to dictate the winner of the next format war...;)

Unless the "toy" in question was actually a trojan horse.  Sony never cared about the gaming market this time around.  It was merely meant as a method of immediate market penetration and so far it's working.

By the way, what is your attachment to HD-DVD?  Do you get a medal or a kickback?  I never cared wether HD-DVD or Bluray won.  I bought into both because I knew that HD media was needed.   I just want one to win and can clearly see the obvious results to date.