[QUOTE="ramey70"]

Ah yes, the old "adjust for inflation" arguement. It's a real shame every College & University's Economics department has been teaching this for over 200 years. And ironically, I have used the inflation arguement when discussing gasoline prices with people. Inflation is a simple reality and is not some mythical reasoning conjured up by Sony supporters, although I'm sure you think it is. I always knew that my Econ professor strived to be more like Ken Kutaragi.

LosDaddie

Yup, and I'm sure people felt better when you enlightened them to the fact that gas prices, "adjusted to inflation", are cheap, right?

Depends on how educated they were.  Those of my friends that I went to school with understood perfectly, and many actually changed their opinion.  Those that weren't (or liberal arts majors ;) ) continued to rant about being "gouged" or how "big oil" was out to get them.  This was even after I explain the nature and realities of the commodities market in which crude oil and gasoline futures are traded, and supply/demand line problems inherhent in the oil and gas industry.   Of course this debate is for another forum.   I have no qualms with current gasoline prices and understand full well why they are the way they are and why they are at or lower than they were 20 or 30 years ago.  

I would like to point out that I did buy an LG Refridgerator because I was so pleased with our LG Washer and Dryer.  So you could make a case that I exhibited some fanboy bahvior during my last appliance purchase. 

 Anyone know of an Appliance Wars forum where I can trash some Whirlpool owners?

[QUOTE="ramey70"]

In addition, your comments about historical pricing is rather misguided. To compare prices spanning multiple years, and in this case decades it is imperative you factor inflation. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the NES was an inflation adjusted price of $475 upon it's 1985 release. I would say it was quite successful. The Atari 2600 released with an inflation adjusted price of $674. It too was very successful. Even Sony's first console, the PS1, released in 1995 with an inflation adjusted price of $402. So yes, several consoles priced above $300 have been successful.

LosDaddie

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The ol "adjust for inflation" agrument. :lol: I bet it makes you feel better when you fill up at $3.20/gallon when you "adjust for inflation", right?

Ah yes, the old "adjust for inflation" arguement.  It's a real shame every College & University's Economics department has been teaching this for over 200 years.   And ironically, I have used the inflation arguement when discussing gasoline prices with people.  Inflation is a simple reality and is not some mythical reasoning conjured up by Sony supporters, although I'm sure you think it is.   I always knew that my Econ professor strived to be more like Ken Kutaragi.

[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]Were there a lot of manticores last gen?? Does it seem like there are more manticores this gen???XYZVector

How can you have a manticore, I'm under the impression they would have to have so much money to burn, and time to burn they just don't exist, becuse if you have time to game, then USUALLY you don't have the money to buy all major nextgen platforms. If you have the money then you don't have the time for all the games that are on Nexgen platforms.

Manticores are truly mythic beasts.

Not really true at all, especially for older gamers.  The price of a Wii/PS3/360 is roughly $1,250 which is about the same price as a good set of golf clubs,  hungting rifle, real road bike, etc. and people find time for those hobbies as well and tend to afford them.

[QUOTE="ramey70"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]I consider myself to be a manticore who give Sony and the PS3 no breaks. They don't deserve any for all the trash talk they have done. I also like enlightening cows to the fact that the PS3 is going to lose a ton of marketshare this gen.LosDaddie

It's not a fact, it's your opinion. A fact requires a hard evidence and solid proof. Since the current generation isn't over you can't have factual data of who lost what or gained what, so your position is unprovable therefore making it at best an unproven theory and at worse a baseless guess.

Baseless guess? :lol: Kids these days! :lol:

Proof is everywhere except that cows deny it. Just look at the sales thus far. The PS2 was never outsold the way the PS3 is being outsold right now.

And you can just look back in history and see that every console priced over $300 has failed.

I'm not a kid, I'm 30 years old as of this past February.  Sales thus far have zero bearing on the wether you can claim a hypothesis of the outcome of a future event to be fact.  I can say that it's a "fact" that the Suns will beat the Spurs in their series yet it won't be "fact" until the series is over and a winner is determined.  Until that it's my guess.

In addition, your comments about historical pricing is rather misguided.  To compare prices spanning multiple years, and in this case decades it is imperative you factor inflation.  According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics the NES was an inflation adjusted price of $475 upon it's 1985 release.  I would say it was quite successful.  The Atari 2600 released with an inflation adjusted price of $674.  It too was very successful.  Even Sony's first console, the PS1, released in 1995 with an inflation adjusted price of $402.   So yes, several consoles priced above $300 have been successful.  

I consider myself to be a manticore who give Sony and the PS3 no breaks. They don't deserve any for all the trash talk they have done. I also like enlightening cows to the fact that the PS3 is going to lose a ton of marketshare this gen.LosDaddie

It's not a fact, it's your opinion.  A fact requires a hard evidence and solid proof.  Since the current generation isn't over you can't have factual data of who lost what or gained what, so your position is unprovable therefore making it at best an unproven theory and at worse a baseless guess.

Manticores don't exist, which is why the name is so appropriate. I have yet to see someone that claims to be a manticore NOT act like a fanboy. Either that or you have the manticore's who are more spoiled kids than real gamers, and they just buy everything for the sake of consumerism...so how can they be "fans" of all consoles when they aren't real gamers?

Frankly, I have yet to see anyone who would fit the description of a "manticore". Plenty of people are more than willing to brag and act holier than thou by claiming to be a manticore. But I have yet to see a real gamer buy all consoles and a PC and enjoy them all equally.

Remember, just because somebody buys everything, it doesn't mean they enjoy them all equally. And just because somebody claims to own everything, it doesn't necessarily mean they know more about it.

Rosencrantz

I largely disagree with that based on personal experience and the way I view consoles.  I see them as just another machine in the household that serves a specific purpose.   My toaster browns my bagels and my PS3/360/Wii provides me with entertainment and my washer/dryer cleans and dries my clothes.  I prefer only either "more" or "less" depending on what I'm playing at the moment.