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#1 ramey70
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SORRY IF WRONG FORUM

since toshiba brought out the hddvd playere that scales regular dvd's to 1080p, dosen't that pretty much seal the deal on all this bluray and hddvd crap?

who needs it when you can have this, no need to replace dvd's or spend extra money on a console or adapter for this?

SegArgyle

Upscaling DVD players have been around for several years now. Even the 360 and PS3 upscale DVD's. I'm not sure why you think this is some new technology.

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#2 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="gamenux"]

my new car dropped a few hundred the moment I drove it home on the first day.

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Actualized depreciation is not the same thing as demand induced price level cuts.

The ps3's reduction does not equate to "demand induced" cuts.

when has sony EVER listened to the demands of the consumer? hint: NEVER.

the price cut is an act of desperation. the fact that bluray is getting spanked in the player market, and sony is BEGGING developers to stay is proof of this.

Perhaps you should take time off from running your bank to actually study economics. Demand induced price level cuts stem from LACK of demand, not that the price cut "was demanded". In short, I'M CLAIMING THAT THE PS3 WASN'T SELLING AS WELL AS SONY HAD HOPED AND THAT LACK OF CONSUMER DEMAND FORCED SONY TO LOWER THE PRICE.

This is basic economics. The anticipated demand curve shifted leftward resulting in a lower prive level along the supply curve.

IN SHORT, I'M ON YOUR SIDE IN THIS ARGUEMENT YOU TWIT.

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#3 ramey70
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my new car dropped a few hundred the moment I drove it home on the first day.

gamenux

Actualized depreciation is not the same thing as demand induced price level cuts.

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#4 ramey70
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[QUOTE="FatCat360"]The PS3 goes down in price as such as the one in Canada. Because the company cares more about its costomers more. Putting it as the same price as the PS3s in the United States. Its gone down in price also because its becoming cheaper for the company to make the PS3 and they can lower down the price. If you knew anything about economics you would understand.LEGEND_C4A

I call bull on everything you said, Sony does not care about you, if they could charge $800 for the system and it was selling, well then $800 is what it would be until people didn't buy the system anymore. A company doesn't just lower the price just because its cheaper to make a system, you also have to take into account how many people are actually buying the system, and price the system accordingly.

How much does the Wii cost too make? about 100 to 150 bucks? and they are selling it for how much? 250? if nintendo really cared they would have had a price drop by now since they are selling well and making a lot of money, so why not show love and give a small price cut and have even more people buy the system? but wait? care about customers! hell no! the system is selling so it won't go down.

still a strange world, this year is not done, so maybe Nintendo will have a price cut, but I promise you its not because they care for you.

I will agree with this point totally. No company drops prices because they care. They drop prices because the demand curve has shifted to a point on the supply curve that warrants a drop in price level.

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#5 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"]Toshiba's HDA1 HD-DVD player went from $599 to less than $300 in less than a year.LEGEND_C4A

true, but remember, you have many choices of HD-DVD players you can buy, so they have to keep it at a good price to compete, plus new versions will be out, so the price HAS to go down.

Sony competes with Nintendo and Microsoft, not much choice there, and to have to lower the price twice just to stay competitive with the other two can't be a good thing.

Sony will be fine, but I think its nice that they don't dominate like last generation, hopefully we will have a nice even split between the 3, then everyone wins.

At the time the HDA1 was released the only other HD-DVD player was the RCA unit and it was priced the same. The only competition it received was six months after launch which was a high end Toshiba unit capable of 1080p and the Xbox add-on which required a 360.

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#6 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ZIMdoom"]Here is a simple bit of TRUTH for the whiny little babies crying about the PS3 ALL DAY LONG. CONSOLES DROP IN PRICE OVER TIME! If you don't like paying full price for new technology, then DON'T. Wait for a price drop and buy it then. Otherwise stop whining about paying premium to have something an launch day. MrEpyx

Yep, consoles do drop in price over time. I won't argue there. Its just that dropping $200 in less than a year, at least to me, is a sign that says, "We've been overcharging you by $200 the whole time"

That's not the way multi-million corporations approach pricing models.

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#7 ramey70
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This has nothing to do with desperation, slapping consumers in the face, or any other nonsense. It's basic economic law. Sony's anticipated demand curve moved to the left and the corresponding point on the supply curve was a lower price level. That's it.
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#8 ramey70
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[QUOTE="ramey70"][QUOTE="Number_1_Gamer"]

The 3DO launched at $700 and received multiple significant price drops in short succession. And we all know how that turned out.

The PS3 has the same destiny.

Number_1_Gamer

Wow. I'm baffled at some of the things I read here. 3DO and the PS3 have very little in common.

If you're baffled than you should read up on the 3DO.

I don't have to read up on it, I'm 30 years old and I had a 3DO. I also know that the 3DO has no established userbase nor an in house developed games with a history of several mulitmillion selling titles. In addition the inflation adjusted price of the 3DO would be $1,150, not $600 like the PS3. They aren't even close to being the same price.

And save your fanboy comments, I bought a launch PS3, got tired of waiting and sold it to upgrade from a premium 360 to an Elite 360. I'll just call out absurdities when I see them.

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#9 ramey70
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Worst controller ever was the Atari Jaguar's and it's simply not up for debate.
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#10 ramey70
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The 3DO launched at $700 and received multiple significant price drops in short succession. And we all know how that turned out.

The PS3 has the same destiny.

Number_1_Gamer

Wow. I'm baffled at some of the things I read here. 3DO and the PS3 have very little in common.