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#1 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="xooco"][QUOTE="shabab12"]

Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches.

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Yes you can. It all depends on viewing distance to the size of the TV. Just the size of the TV has nothing to do with it. A 50" 1080p FullHD TV is no better than a 37" 1080p FullHD TV. It just depends what distance you are viewing it from.

I see where you are going and what you are talking about. However, many reviewers, and store employees say that the smaller the tv (32 inches and below) the less likely you are to see a noticable difference between the two resolutions. Unless you are sitting right in front eyeballing looking for a difference.



You never said that though. Simply stating "Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches." is so false its wrongon all counts. You dont really have to be sitting that close to a 37" 1080p FullHD TV to notice it is no different to a 50",60" or 70" 1080pFullHD TV. Screen ****alone has nothing to do with it. Its screen ****AND viewing distances.

People have got a lot of false imformation in there head about this and I dont know where its come from. I always see people stating anything under 50" 1080p TV's and you wont see the difference, which is nonsense.

It's no use commenting anymore. Even you have said that there are plently of people that agree that viewing smaller tvs makes it hard to tell the difference between 1080i/p.....sources have been pasted in this thread. So I think that says enough. You have an opinion and you are entitled to it. However, you can't say that everyone else is wrong and the sources are too.....and that you are right and everyone else's thoughts and information is nonsense.



Im sorry, but where you are getting your source from is wrong or either your reading it wrong. There is no difference between 1080p on a 37" set compared to a 50" set. It all depends on how close or far away yopu sit. You do know that 1080p will be no different to 720p if you sit far away enough from the TV. What I state is not an opinion, it is fact. Go to the AV forums and ask for yourself.

>>>>Shawty1984.....read this http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html?tag=txt



I already have. Ive already pointed out why they seen no difference in the two TV's as they are using a 1080i source and not a 1080p one. Also I have stated thay they are wrong about smaller 1080P TV's. Dont believe me, go to various shops and test it out yourself. The smaller the TV like 37" 1080p, the closer you have to sit to be able to take advantage of 1080p.
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#2 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="Necromican"]They actually comment that in the bottom of the Article.. That you should not ignore 1080p. Because there is a difference in detail but it is very hard to see on smaller TV's.kenken2g

Right. This was the point that I was trying to make to Shawty1984. He is entilted to his own opinion and that's cool. He feels as if it doesn't matter the size of the tv he says it's the viewing distance. If you have 1080p on a 32 inch and 1080i on another 32 inch....you can't really see a difference with the human eye. But if it was a 50 inch then yes of course you can see it.



Yes you can see the difference. You just have to sit closer. I will repeat, 1080p at 37" is no different to 1080p at 60" apart from the viewing differences. If you sit 10 ft away from both of course they wont look the same with the 60" being better. The smaller the TV the closer you have to sit to notice 1080p.
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#3 shawty1984
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And there is a difference. Otherwise it would have been silly to make the resolution. Eh?..

And when they speak. they speek of resolution and picture quality, Blu Ray movie og PS3 game. Its the same difference.. 1080p is a little shaper and alittle more detailed.. But you cannot see that in smaller Tv-Sets.

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Yes you can see the difference, you just have to sit closer.
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#5 shawty1984
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They actually comment that in the bottom of the Article.. That you should not ignore 1080p. Because there is a difference in detail but it is very hard to see on smaller TV's.Necromican


Thats simply wrong. Its not harder to see on smaller TV's, you just have to sit closer to smaller TV's. This is good for small bedrooms and the like where I will be getting a 37" 1080p TV.
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#6 shawty1984
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Shawty1984 did you see what Necromican just posted? Read this part of the article through and through

The truth about 1080p
In the last couple of years, there has been a big influx of HDTVs with 1080p native resolution, which typically cost a good deal more than their lower-resolution counterparts. But as we've been saying all along, once you get to high-def, the difference between resolutions becomes much more difficult to appreciate. We've done side-by-side tests between two 46-inch LCD HDTVs, one with 1366x768 resolution and the other with 1080p resolution, using the same 1080i source material, and it was extremely difficult for us to see any difference. It becomes even more difficult at smaller screen **** or farther seating distances--say, more than 1.5 times the diagonal measurement of the screen. We've reviewed a 37-inch 1080p LCD, for example, where it was impossible to see the separation between horizontal lines at farther than 45 inches away.

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As I posted above, the only reason they seen no difference was because they where not using a 1080p source and only a 1080i. You cant get the best out of the Tv if you dontuse the TV to the best it can do.
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#7 shawty1984
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Lot of comments :D. Hope you have your answer by now though. But why are some of you commenting on personal thoughts and not by fact?..

http://www.cnet.com/4520-7874_1-5137915-1.html?tag=txt

Just read that and the answers speeks clearly.

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The only reason they seen no differnce is because they used a 1080i source and not a 1080p one. Use a 1080p source and there you go, you have your difference. Its like comparing a Ford Escort to a Ferrari Enzo and saying they have both the same speed as the legal limit is 70MPH ( UK ).
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#8 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="kenken2g"][QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="xooco"][QUOTE="shabab12"]

Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches.

kenken2g

Yes you can. It all depends on viewing distance to the size of the TV. Just the size of the TV has nothing to do with it. A 50" 1080p FullHD TV is no better than a 37" 1080p FullHD TV. It just depends what distance you are viewing it from.

I see where you are going and what you are talking about. However, many reviewers, and store employees say that the smaller the tv (32 inches and below) the less likely you are to see a noticable difference between the two resolutions. Unless you are sitting right in front eyeballing looking for a difference.



You never said that though. Simply stating "Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches." is so false its wrongon all counts. You dont really have to be sitting that close to a 37" 1080p FullHD TV to notice it is no different to a 50",60" or 70" 1080pFullHD TV. Screen ****alone has nothing to do with it. Its screen ****AND viewing distances.

People have got a lot of false imformation in there head about this and I dont know where its come from. I always see people stating anything under 50" 1080p TV's and you wont see the difference, which is nonsense.

It's no use commenting anymore. Even you have said that there are plently of people that agree that viewing smaller tvs makes it hard to tell the difference between 1080i/p.....sources have been pasted in this thread. So I think that says enough. You have an opinion and you are entitled to it. However, you can't say that everyone else is wrong and the sources are too.....and that you are right and everyone else's thoughts and information is nonsense.



Im sorry, but where you are getting your source from is wrong or either your reading it wrong. There is no difference between 1080p on a 37" set compared to a 50" set. It all depends on how close or far away yopu sit. You do know that 1080p will be no different to 720p if you sit far away enough from the TV. What I state is not an opinion, it is fact. Go to the AV forums and ask for yourself.
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#9 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="xooco"][QUOTE="shabab12"]

Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches.

kenken2g

Yes you can. It all depends on viewing distance to the size of the TV. Just the size of the TV has nothing to do with it. A 50" 1080p FullHD TV is no better than a 37" 1080p FullHD TV. It just depends what distance you are viewing it from.

I see where you are going and what you are talking about. However, many reviewers, and store employees say that the smaller the tv (32 inches and below) the less likely you are to see a noticable difference between the two resolutions. Unless you are sitting right in front eyeballing looking for a difference.



You never said that though. Simply stating "Also, you can'treally see 1080i or 1080p if your tv is smaller than 50 inches." is so false its wrongon all counts. You dont really have to be sitting that close to a 37" 1080p FullHD TV to notice it is no different to a 50",60" or 70" 1080pFullHD TV. Screen size alone has nothing to do with it. Its screen size AND viewing distances.

People have got a lot of false imformation in there head about this and I dont know where its come from. I always see people stating anything under 50" 1080p TV's and you wont see the difference, which is nonsense.

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#10 shawty1984
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[QUOTE="shawty1984"][QUOTE="gamer18033"]

by the way even if you have a 1080p tv the best resolution you'll get is 1080i because tvs cannot accept 1080psignals

ryank285



Huh? The majority of 1080p FullHD TV's will accept a 1080p source, otherwise what would be the point in a FullHD TV. Maybe you need to get some facts before posting wrong information on products that cost a lot of money.

maybe YOU need to get your facts right. hes saying the HD channels broadcasted on TV are not in full HD which is true. most if not all sports are in 720p resolution and i believe discovery channel is in 1080i. only way you can get true 1080p source is through blu ray or select ps3 games. im talking about TRUE 1080p, not upscaled.



Erm, try reading?

Here is his full post -

"people- this is the answer you're looking for:

1080i has more pixels and is sharper than 720p but 720p has a better frame rate, i believe it is 60 fps compares to 30 fps with 1080i

personally, i always play my ps3 on 1080i and watch tv on 1080i because i don't think frame rate is very important, you are supposed to watch sports and fast paced programs on 720p and slower ones on 1080i to optimize the clarity

by the way even if you have a 1080p tv the best resolution you'll get is 1080i because tvs cannot accept 1080psignals"

A 1080p signal or source is anything that outputs at 1080p. As the PS3 or Xbox 360 or HD DVD or Blu-ray all give out a 1080p signal then the best resolution would be 1080p and not 1080i. No where in his/her post does it state being about TV broadcasts.