Ok, well now I feel a little better about the Lebron signing. I just couldn't envision the Big 3 and nothing else winning a championship. At least we have a serviceable point guard and a 3-point shooter now. If we can score a solid center and 2 veteran bench players, then I think we will be ok. I still don't think we'll win the championship next year though,

i don't know this question has too many variables. The obvious answer would be joe montana but that's ONLY IF he's quarterbacking those great 49'ers teams of the 80's. What would happen if he wasplaying for the bills "TEAMS" that lost 4 super bowls? Would i want him then? who knows. Some people will just never get it. No matter how "clutch" a qb is, he has to have the "team" around him on all sides of the ball to win. I mean i can argue Marino cause he never had elite players on offense, defense or special teams but yet is still put in the same class as the Montana's and every other "great" qb that has multiple championships. So maybe he would be able to get the best out of the least. I don't know. It's just too loaded of a question

[QUOTE="sixringz1"][QUOTE="Racer_XLR"]

I know that. That's not the point I'm trying to make. Bosh has never played with another player of Nash's skill, Dirk has. And yet, throughout his career, Bosh still managed to put MVP type stats.

M_1_A_M_I

[QUOTE="M_1_A_M_I"] Lol .... Nash left in 04 buddy. Racer_XLR

I know that. That's not the point I'm trying to make. Bosh has never played with another player of Nash's skill, Dirk has. And yet, throughout his career, Bosh still managed to put MVP type stats.

I am very curious as to how he plans to go about doing just that with a team full of nothing? Who are you going to add?

I guess you could get Steve Nash or Chris Paul for a guard, Rudy Gay/Durrant/Johnson for 2 of the three other spots, and get Dirk with some other player down low.

Here is my advice work quickly because there isn't much time left.

Sonwhy

Wow this is gonna be ugly for a while. Everybody thought that first game between kobe and shaq after shaq left was a big deal wait til this. I'd be willing to bet just about everything i own that one of the Christmas day games will be Miami AT cleveland.

I do agree with Gilbert that this whole ordeal was just ridiculous in the first place. Just make your decision talk to the teams and make a statement. Kevin Durant signed a 5 year extension and just announced on twitter like it was no big deal. Lebron was speaking in 3rd person during the interview. he was really feelin himself through this whole process and i definitely agree with Gilbert that it was a very narsasistic and arrogant act, but it is what it is.

However, the thought that Clv will win a title before lebron is downright laughable considering no team from cleveland, let alone the cavs, ever wins anything.

[QUOTE="nocoolnamejim"][QUOTE="theone86"]

Lebron hasn't won theFinals in seven straight years, he must be pathetic as well. Good players can play on bad teams, any sports fan knows some of the best players in history have played on bad teams that never won a championship. The whole argument of rings mattering more than stats is fundamentally flawed, if anything it should speak to their skill that they didn't have a championship caliber team and still managed those kinds of stats.

Dan Marino is one of the best QB's of all time and he never won a championship; Jeremy Roenick is considered one of the best American hockey players and he never won a championship. I'm not saying championships don't count for anything, but not winning a championship is not an automaticl slight against a player's skills.

Oh this is great lebron has more haters know.What choice does he have stay in cleveland and try to beat miami,orlando,celtics,lakers.What if 5 years from know he has no rings and is age is catching up to him then he would say i should of gone to miami or chicago and be known as a failure.Or he can decide to play with bosh and wade where he know he has a better chance of winning a title.Yes this is the easier way out,but if you look at kevin garnett if he had left timberwolves sooner we could be calling him the best power forward of all time.He wants to become great and he feels this decision is best for him and his family.

Heat Starting line up

Wade

Lebron

Bosh

Dexter Pittman

Mario Chalmers

Sonwhy

Can the Heat win with Bosh, Wade, Lebron, and 9 Rafer Alstons?