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#1 sixringz1
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Went to a movie right after my last post, so didn't get to see the response til now. Let's see, what's this about some dude "flippin" my own logic on me, ha,ha! Don't think so.. I used the "just because Kobe didn't doesn't mean he couldn't" logic in response to some dude (the one you erroneously thought was "giving it to me" {maybe that's why you got modded, but I digress} who said Kobe couldn't lead his team to victory against the Dallas Mavericks in the finals as Wade did. If I remember correctly he tried to use as proof Kobe failing to lead the Lakers over Boston last year. My correct response was the difference between Boston's defense and Dallas's D is like night and day. And Kobe has shown over the years that he kills Dallas, likewise Dallas has shown no ability to stop Kobe. So I have support for my reasoning that Kobe could have done the same thing against Dallas that Wade did given the same situation. Oh, come on Mr. Sixringz, use your "superior basketball knowledge", you know Kobe would have killed Dallas also, DALLAS! Come on man!

I also used the "Kobe could have logic" concerning leading the NBA in scoring as Wade did. Once again I have support for that logic; Kobe's done it before when he had a weak/inexperienced support cast as Wade did. Kobe's team just didn't need him to score as much as in the past. But you know he could have, it's not a stretch to think that, uh huh.

Now, concerning MJ scoring 81, there is no support for that. He had a full career to do it but didn't. He played against weak defenses also. He shot more than anyone since Elgin Baylor, yet didn't score past the sixties and needed ot for his 4 best scoring games. Come on fella's "ya'll gon have ta gimme this one", Kobe's a better scorer than MJ! Right?? Please don't come back with the usual list of MJ's other accomplishments, we're talking about this right here...focus, fooocuuus, (this is fun ain't it boy's??!)

See how I flipped your flip, put it in a choke hold and got it to tap out! :P

While I'm at it, let me help my man out concerning the defense, now and then. Yes MJ got double and triple teamed as Kobe does. But you know the zone defense has made it tougher for Kobe to get higher % shots on. Advantage, Jordan. Defender's at Kobe's position? I'll name some of the better defenders Kobe has had to deal with in his career and you name some in MJ's day, just for comparison: Bruce Bowen, Ron Artest, Shane Battier, to a lesser degree Doug Christie and Ruben Patterson(yeah, he was sort of a clown but a tough nosed defender). I'm probably forgetting others. I know who MJ had, but go for it... Also, in general Kobe has elite players like Lebron, Wade and Carmelo to contend with. Did MJ's competition have the size and ability of those guys? Again I know the answers, but your turn.

You are right about one thing, sixringz, "somebody has to school these youngsters". You make a decent substitute teacher;)

mont13

i won't get into your script of a response i'll just comment on one thing. Defenese was A LOT, let me repeat that, A LOT harder in the 80's and early 90's. Forget the fact that you could handcheck the ENTIRE WAY UP THE COURT. The overall way the game was played as opposed to now is night and day. You could basically get away with second degree assault charges back then now you can't blow on somebody without a foul. So i don't even have to name any elite defenders. I can give you average defenders at best, and with the way you were allowed to play back then, their D was just as good as the best of today, once again cause you could get away with SO MUCH MORE back then.

And once again, just cause jordan DIDN'T score 81, doesn't mean he COULDN'T. But that's cool, if you believe since he DIDN'T he COULDN'T, well Kobe has lost in his last 2 finals. COULD he have won? sure. But he DIDN'T. Jordan COULD and DID in ALL OF THEM. NEVER LOST. UNDEFEATED. Do i need to continue or you get the point. See how i did that. Hold onto that single game scoring output.Single gameaccomplishments and records are great. Those are the things that define legends. :roll:Hell Timmy Smith own the all time rushing yards record in a Super Bowl - It's a great honor.

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#2 sixringz1
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side question. I'm a little new to the whole PSN downloading game thing. I've had my ps3 for a while just haven't done the online thing yet. Do these PS1 games stay in the store forever or are they limited time only? thanks

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#3 sixringz1
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People always kill IGN for saying they grade a little too "easy" but i like them a lot. They seem to always be more consistant w/ their reviews than other sites. At the end of the day when you go to a site lke Gamerankings where it takes the average, IGN's score seems to always be very close to that score (few exceptions). Gamespot has just had way too many inconsistancies in my book. Almost suspect scores on some games. I never even read their reviews i just look at the score that laugh at the chaos that ensues afterwards on system wars. lol.

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#4 sixringz1
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"Again Kobe scored 81 against a subpar Raptors team and had the ball in his hands 90% of the game. I am not trying to take away what Kobe did, but I bet Jordan could have done the same if had been in the same situation as Kobe."

Are you telling me MJ never played "sub-par" teams ?? I know he did. You do know the circumstances of that game, right? Kobe had the ball in his hands during that scoring blitz because his team was down big in the 3rd qtr. Apparently nobody was doing much of anything. So the star player stepped up and got it done. They kept feeding Kobe because he was beyond "hot", as they should have. See, this is what bugs me. If MJ had scored 81 and Kobe hadn't, omg, I would never hear the end of it. Kobe gets 81 and people have to find a way to down grade it as opposed to appreciate it. To me it was the most amazing scoring display in history (eclipsing Wilts, considering the circumstances). "Again", MJ played against many sad teams in his career and wasn't shy about taking shots either, he had plenty of opportunity to score 81 but didn't. MJ didn't even get 71. MJ didn't score beyond the 60's, his highest scoring games came in ot, one was in double ot. Give Kobe his moment and appreciate it, geez!!!,

P.S: Come on sixringz, lighten up on the young man.:D

mont13

Come on man you know me. If someone wants to argue on behalf of their player that's cool but make an argument. If he wanted to say from a fundamental skill standpoint Kobe near the same levelas Jordan that would be cool. If he wanted to say in a few years it's possible that he can have close to the overall accomplishments that Jordan does, that would becool too, because that speaks to the overall ability and career of a player. You can at least make a viable argument with that. This guy is using individual scoring games as his argument. I know gamespot sports forum is also known as LA Lakers/kobe bryant fan club, but geez make it credible at least. I mean under his rational David Thompson is better cause he scored 73 points in a single game and Jordan didn't.I won't even comment on the "weaker guards, shorter players and not as many double teams". That's just complete nonsense. Someone has to school these youngsters.

P.S. To take one out of your handbook just cause jordan DIDN'T score 81 doesn't mean he COULDN'T. ;) You like how i flipped that on you

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#5 sixringz1
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[QUOTE="ASK_Story"]

Not the best of all-time, LOL! That title belongs to another #23 NOT LeBron James. ;)

But I do agree that Kobe is still the best in the NBA at the moment. But I also think that it's only a matter of time LeBron takes over, unless some crazy freak of nature comes out of college or high school that blows both of them away, which I don't see happenining, at least not in our lifetime.

But it's arguable. Some say LeBron is the best, some say Kobe is. I guess it's both right. LeBron does things that make him the best, but then again, Kobe does things that show why he's still the best.

But at the end, it doesn't matter really, because there will always be only one GREATESTOF ALL-TIME, and we all know who that is. HINT: He's from the Bulls, 6 NBA Finals MVPs, 5 regular MVPs, Defensive Player of the Year, and loves to stick out his toungue! ;)

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Well when you think to your self hmm jordan the goat... Maybe not because kobe scored 81 on thi day and age it impossible!! even the 62 pts in 3quaters wtf! Kobe right nowis playing in the nba with longer taller stronger plus better def in nba rite now! While jordan plays in the nba with weaker guards shorter players not as much Double teams! and all the above...

I understand you are a fan and you just want to start a thread to illustrate that, but at least have some clue about the history of basketball before saying such idiotic things. At least if you wanna make a case, use something credible. But then again we are on a video game site, so you can't really expect everyone to know more than a 6th grader about sports, but at least those people don't USUALLY make ridiculous comments. "Weaker guards, not as much double teams". If you really believe what you said you know absolutely NOTHING about basketball

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#6 sixringz1
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If Uncharted 2 didn't look as impressive as it did, then it wouldn't be getting THIS much praise. And you people don't know what you're talking about so stop talking out of your butt. Uncharted was very underlooked until the game came in a PS3 bundle... I still have friends with a PS3 that have never heard about this game.

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The only reason I got this game was because it was bundled with my 160GB PS3. It was better than what was presented in the demo, but still something I could've passed on. But to think something like this gets more hype than Super Mario Galaxy...

Ahh i get it. It's not a personal attack at this game, but rather judging by your avatar and sig it is obvious you're just salty that even after a Super Mario Galaxy sequel has been confirmed that Uncharted is still getting more buzz. It's ok man it's just a game. Enjoy your Mario let everyone else enjoy their Uncharted and we all live happily ever after.

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#7 sixringz1
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Everywhere i look more motion control. Microsoft yesterday and now this. PLEASE STOP ALREADY!!!! The control pad has worked fine for decades and cause Nintendo finishes first for the the fist time since the SNES, with the wii, now all the sudden every other company has to jump ship and do a cheap rip off. BOOOO!!!

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#8 sixringz1
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There is NO WAY at this point MGSIV will go to the 360. It's already been a year that its been out, and E3 is to showcase games that will be coming out within the next 1-2 years. Trust me if they had any plans to port the game they would not have missed the opportunity toannounce itat their press conf.since it wasn't you are talking two years since release come next E3. Why would either side even bother at that point, especially with a new MGS they have to promote. The adventures of Solid Snake days are over with MGSIV and it's not going to any other platform at this point. It's time to look towards the new installments

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#9 sixringz1
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I've been on these forums now for a little while and i figured out a little while ago how to spot a troll. Anybody who starts a thread like this one and doesn't make ONE OTHER POST other than the original is obviously trolling. If he really believed what he was saying he would have stayed around to defend his statement. What a clown.

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#10 sixringz1
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If you think that kojima would ONLY come to E3 to announce ONE game for the 360 and announce NOTHING for the company that made him who he is today, you must be nuts. There will be some sort of MGS game for PS3 and/or PSP too. I really think however that the style of gameplay that we expected w/ MGS1-IV is gone for good. They prob be more action packed 3rd person shooting type IMO