@drizzygadget: you GTFOH.......he was talking about Zen CPU's......can you read or are you just that stupid and blinded by your fan boy BULL SHIT???

@Kevin75: 6tf optimized could do 4k at 30 frames......its that simple.....

@Flyin3lvl: you cant forget anything as both cost money to make.......and i will bet money right now sony want have a new console out for at least 2 years......

@Kevin75: every 3 years.....but yeah i get the fact its coming to that.....

@drizzygadget: HOPES NOT DASHED...... i did not see anything about the chips not coming out for PC and everything official shown from AMD still said 2016.......what you linked to was the option for the X86 chips the consoles would need(middle pic in your link has X86 taking almost half the picture up)......."AMD is set to launch new semi-custom SoCs using Zen core in 2018"....... the problem with it affecting PC is that "semi-custom SoCs" part does not mean anything to PC gamers..... X64 PC chips are still on time.........i dont care what is going in Scorpio.....i want new CPU's.....my 7 year old AMD 955 over clocked is still holding on and its time to kill old yeller

@mi_hung_lo: oh come on he is not as bad as some of them...

@louixiii: i could see them pushing this up just to make it a launch game......

@Flyin3lvl: your confusing making something smaller with a hardware upgrade....the PS4 was under 2tf....the pro is 4tf....that is double the horse power and consent with a new console gen......the one going from 1.6tf to 6tf is nuts.....but its still a console hardware change.....something sony has to be willing to make for at least 3 years......what you want to do with a new true 4k play station would give them 3 version of hardware on the market at one time.....something no maker has ever done unless you count hand helds.....

@louixiii: i can see the boogers in marios nose...i love 8k.........sarcasm needs a font.....

@braheemiii: the pro is double the Teraflop count of the first PS4......so it is a new gen......