now back on topic, with all the great (potential) AAA releases, what kind of remakes would you like?

I love sony releasing remakes that are actually built from the ground up and not just slight visual upgrades, maybe do the same for a jack and daxter collection?

@ArchoNils2: lol are you betting TLOU2 will release on pc or that you can stream it from ps4 to pc..the latter is obviously possible but shit lol

@R4gn4r0k: I dunno if you have a short memory or if you're just a liar. one last word on this - you replied to my comment about rstar games being better on consoles than pc, your argument being that my examples of rdr and gta v were not better on consoles...under the imrpession rdr had released on pc which it hasnt.

so just take it, admit u were wrong or heck, you miss typed and move on, Im not one for bs lies about pc v console

General consensus seems to be "its bad but lets keep it away from sp"....problem is it has infested several major single player games already and knowing just how ruthlessly capitalistic TT and Rstar have become, I am worried about the sp portion of RDR2...which I was even before this leaked.

@ArchoNils2: thanks man! never embedded on here before

so what do you think?

@vanilli: I agree with your assessment of GTA IV and Tomb Raider because, even when you look at it objectively, both those games do not live up to the best the genre has to offer.

Even at its release, TR was a really bad game when it came to simple action. Wana run and shoot, where forget accuracy!

GTA IVs problem was that, as entertaining as it was, it lacked the vast world and opportunities/characters/environments/play styles of SA and, as you mentioned, even Vice City. For a GTA game being released on brand new hardware, it was a genuine step backwards.

Now, an overrated/underrated argument only works if we look at objective failings and not just "well everyone gave it high review scores but I personally dislike it". For that reason you can't put down FO3 for instance, which presented one of the best rpg open worlds tech could offer at the time and FO4 cant even compete with it. Bioshock took what had happened over at Valve with single player, story focused fps games, again, objectively it just is not bad, so how can it be overrated?

I think the perfect example of a modern overrated game is MGS V. I'm one of the biggest fans of the series and bought a PS4 just for this game and honestly, it is bad. Technically, the game looks and feels awesome, so slow down, consistent frames, just marvelous but dig beneath the looks and there is nothing there. The stealth is repetitive, each army base is literally the same layout, motherbase is meaningless and the story actually ends halfway through the set number of missions...but we have to keep playing through the rubbish. Oh and dont even get me started on the "AFrica" map which is essentially Afg with a re-skin.

I also believe the open world aspect of Zelda BOTW is vastly overrated. Don't get me wrong, its a terrific game and one of the best I played this year but all this talk of the open world being "unique" or "revolutionary" is far fetched at best. Survival elements with regards to equipment and weather? Seen it, done it, better executed and more integral elsewhere. The world itself? Open and pretty but largely empty ( the dungeons and puzzles are still great but they arent open world) and the enemies are too widely spread out (similar map style to mgs actually) and it makes it too easy to get to them.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlsQK3KVGvw

Watch it and weep.

@R4gn4r0k: No, THIS is what you said:

"No, I played GTA V on PS3 and RDR on 360 and I would not say those games were better suited and more adapted."

English is my first language so I understand you very well, you are claiming RDR would be better on PC but you have absolutely nothing to back it up, whereas I do for my argument.

Now, if you want to spout pc rubbish, do it outside of my thread.

GOW 2 and 3 on the hardest difficulties were option!

All thos combinations and weapons actually made an impact and you had to mix and match to get he perfect streak of kills. I might buy a PS3 and replay it.

@R4gn4r0k: I never said you should not have an option to play where you like, I made the correct observation, that with their history Rstar published games are better suited to consoles and one of the examples you gave to counter that was RDR, which never released on PC.

I know PS stream of that XBX option can allow you to play it via PC but its not an officially released PC game and in the streaming alone would feature lag so is obviously superior on consoles.

So in your haste to big up PC gaming (what this thread is NOT about) you didnt even know what you were talking about. So I just called you out on that, nothing more.

Now lets get back to the topic at hand.