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#1 starwarsgeek112
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[QUOTE="princemarth23"]

[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]

All this damage control is getting annoying. You people have not even played the game, why dont you play it first, before bashing tom for a score on a game you have never played. These excuses are pathetic

campzor

Well, when a game is 95 on metacritic and then gamespot scores it 7.5, it doesn't really sit well with the fans.

hardcore fans of ANY game series are the worst bunch of consumers on the planet. I wish GS gave RDR a 7.5 and i would have been happy with that.

Hardcore fans and hardcore anti-fans... both an equally bad group of people.

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#2 starwarsgeek112
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I'm fine with review score but after GS' twitter post, that pratically begged people to come look at their score, I have my doubts about the authenticity of it.

Heirren

Wha?

"So yeah, we gave Zelda a 7.5. If you want to find out WHY, then check out the video review..."

Just seems like they were begging people to come and start a riot. Say what you will, but from the way that is worded it is pretty clear they want people to come to the website and start controversy, and controversy leads to more traffic.

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Have you all considered that McShea might actually be correct in his assessment? Just look at Gametrailers invisible walls episode. They clearly didn't like the game much, complained that the controls only worked about 80% of the time, then end up slapping a 9.1 on the game anyway. Obviously they don't believe it deserved such a high score, and maybe were afraid of the backlash.

For all we know, all the othersites that praised the game might have been afraid to flop a Zelda game for fear of backlash. Also, Skyward Sword apparently has a much slower start than even Twilight Princess and doesn't become fun at all to play until the 3rd dungeon. The fetch quest complaint was because the padding is supposedly even worse than usual in a Zelda title.

Remember the backlash with TP? Then when people finally played it, many said the score should have been lower. I fear that might be the case with Skyward Sword as well and it might be the worst Zelda.

And for people saying McShea didn't understand the controls. It is one thing to maybe not understand the control scheme. It is completely different though that the Wiimote has to be recalibrated several times for no apparent reason. If that is the case, then I can see why the score is so low. It sounds frustrating.

AvIdGaMeR444

And have you considered that it's much more likely that the higher reviews are honest and that this low review is only an attempt at gaining traffic to the website? I'm not saying that that is what this review is doing but come on, when someone goes this far against the grain (bring up 1UP, gamepro, and GB all you want but their rating systems are not the same and don't translate easily to the 10 scale), why is that he is the only honest one?

I'm fine with review score but after GS' twitter post, that pratically begged people to come look at their score, I have my doubts about the authenticity of it.

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#4 starwarsgeek112
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[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I gotta admit, I'm very surprised that Gamespot crushed Skyward Sword with a 7.5. I didn't see that one coming at all, especially after the IGN review.

Ballroompirate

IGN was pretty biased

They pretty much claimed SS was the best Zelda a week before they even released the review.

How is that biased? Why is it that when someone really really enjoys the game it's because they are biased but when they give it a low score they are suddenly honest? Both reviews are biased they are just at different ends of the spectrum.

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Wow, this thread is going completely out of control. Sheep are overreacting over people bashing their game, while the anti-wii/zelda people or lemmings or cows are desperately trying to force down to our throats that its a "flop" and we have to acknowledge n embrace it. Give me a break :lol: , I'll be playing the game, thanksLastRambo341

Uh.. err.. This is nothing compared to the 8.8 TP backlash. This is actually pretty tame in my opinion..

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#6 starwarsgeek112
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Wow.. Gamespot's twitter just makes it look more like they only gave it that score for the traffic.

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I love how the Zelda fan boys aren't calling any of the 10/10 scores biased given the fact they haven't even played the game yet. I think the review was very fair with the game and called the franchise out for not really chaning much up over the years. Plus a 7.5 is "good" on this site, I dont see anything wrong with that.

nikolajz1

Why do review numbers need to match up? Maybe in some Plato-ian sense the game is actually a 7.5 and all the other sites over scored it?

Look, it's certainly a possiblity that everybody else overscored it but it is much more likely that Tom underscored it. I realize that reviews are just opinions but reviewers should at least make some attempt at objectivey. It seems to me that Tom is just predisposed to dislike motion controls and that might have had a huge effect on his enjoyment of the game. However, as a reviewer you should make your best attempt at not letting inherent biases like that effect your scoring system. For example, if I played Skyrim on a 360 I would enjoy it less because I prefer mouse and keyboard but I wouldn't let that bias effect my review score.

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#8 starwarsgeek112
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Can't stand his reviews anymore.. he just looks to find every flaw he can in order to make himself enjoy the game less. Honestly, I don't know why he even plays video games since the vast majority of them just cause him to be upset.

seanmcloughlin

That's the point of his reviews. To be hateful towards its flaws. But he doesn't over exaggerate things. He just focuses solely on the flaws. But he gives praise for games that deserve it

Eh, I'd say he extremely over exaggerates the flaws which is why I find his reviews to be unbearable. I used to think they were funny when I thought he was just doing it to be humorous, but I've since realized that he actually means what he says. Dude seriously needs to take the stick out of his ass. In the end though, I just have a completely different mind set than he does because I can overlook flaws since I like to actually, you know, enjoy the things that I claim to enjoy.

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I love how the Zelda fan boys aren't calling any of the 10/10 scores biased given the fact they haven't even played the game yet. I think the review was very fair with the game and called the franchise out for not really chaning much up over the years. Plus a 7.5 is "good" on this site, I dont see anything wrong with that.

nikolajz1

And I love how the anti fan boys are claiming that Tom's review is somehow more honest just because he gave it a lower score. Tom's review is fine but his review does not match up with many of the other ones.. if anything that makes the review more suspect to dishonesty.

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#10 starwarsgeek112
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

My question to all of you is who really cares about the score?

Is it really gonna stop you from buying it and enjoying it?

Is this 7.5 really the end of the world?

People are gonna buy it next week and completely forget what the review score was.

No one is gonna sit there and be bitter and say to themselves while playing

"can't believe gamespot gave this game a 7.5"

No you're gonna love, hate it or throughly enjoy it.

Heil68

I was going to get it but now I'm not so sure. Fighting the controls and suspect camera doesn't seem to be like much fun, not to mention the whole stigma of the flop.

You're going to let one review in a whole barrel of positive reviews influence your decision??