@templecow90999: Although sales still matter (especially at corporate level) from an SW perspective or even monthly sales perspective, it's a little disingenuous to say X sold more than Y when availability is next to non-existant.

Plus with the Series S, those console are (relatively) abundantly available, as they are far easier to manufacture (better yields on those chips since weaker chip if I understand correctly).

I think the sales comparison (by month and year) will become more relevant (again from an SW perspective) once the supply chain issue have been fixed and both consoles are freely available online and on store shelves. Frankly though, do not see that happening until next year.

Makes perfect sense, the PS5 has not been in stock in the US most of February, next to no drops last month. While as Xbox Series S has been (XSX stock was also lacking, but not to same extent as PS5 from what I recall)

@Pedro: Lmao yeah the dude really does not seem like he has a life. Being so intently focused on the potential failure of a console and its associated titles (because you only have its competitor) is kind of pathetic imo

@Stevo_the_gamer:

I do agree with BassMan that it's an odd question (sort of) since there are other factors that come into play that are more important. That being said, his PC certainly is capable of serving as a space heater, probably outputs around 750/800w or so at laod (aka a space heater on the low setting lol).

I think the bigger issue is (in a setup of that calibre) is making sure the electrical can handle the load of everything running at once and that the circuit breaker does not trip (as in having a circuit dedicated to that room). I would guess everything combined (pc, tv, receiver, subwoofer) at load could draw close to 1500w peak or more (when listening loud and subwoofer being stressed in his case, since that massive OLED also draws a decent amount of power). My rooms circuit breaker is shared between the sunroom/wife's office and I have def. Led to the thing tripping, hence why I am mentioning (and I think it is something someone could over look when designing a dedicated space, certainly something I never thought of until it happened to me)

@warm_gun: True but I think the way his setup is done for the rewrs still conforms with the (ever changing) dolby recommendation,or at least close to it (110-120 degree). But all this proper speaker placement is a little complicated since say thx say 90-110but dolby says 110-120 (for 5.1). More importantly I think in his case, the height of the surround may be an issue, I don't think so personally but it's possible (potentially, but like I alluded to earlier, given the ever changing recommendations by even dolby, as well as differing recommendations based on company, hard to know). Some place say surround should be placed (the tweeter) a few feet above ears (while other say ear level). Bringing in atmos into this further complicates this as atmos speakers (upfiring) should be above ear level but no more than half the height of ceiling, but if you rears are several feet above ear level fba. Your upfiring (if on top of rears) would be too high. Anyway yeah kind of confusing on what the best/correct setup is (personally I have given up figuring that out and try to enjoy the compromised setup I have)

@BassMan: Haha that is noted, yeah figured you may be a bass head as well but did not want to assume.

But true you bring up good points, too much bass could be fatiguing as well and certainly don't want something sounding muddy (I can't stand some headphones, such as beats because they are too muddy/imbalanced). Had not thought of it being fatiguing tbh (I usually associate fatigue with treble, even though personally don't find treble fatiguing) but could certainly see the bass being an issue if it's just constantly "boom boom boom" due to things exploding.

I guess my issue (and granted I have not looked into this empirically at all, nor taken the measurements in game, so this is more of a feeling) is that bass/LFE effects in video games do not go that low at all, rarely would anything go under the 20hz or 30hz mark (I would guess most is focused at the 40-80/120hz mark). From a practical perspective though I do not know what this would imply (games having effects that go as low as say 16hz), but I can see what you alluded to being the case (too much/frequent bass).

Lastly, from another practical perspective, I would assume that even if games had a good focus on LFE effects and effects got down low, most people would not be able to take advantage of it as they either a) game on headphones (which, unless I am mistaken, tend to fall off dramatically under 100hz, I think - 3db point of many headphones may be close to the 100hz mark), b) game on TV speakers or blah (imo) logitech/razer pc speakers or c) don't have a sub powerful enough to go that low anyway (as those things tend to be costly and extremely bulky...man are good subs a massive waste of space and hard to integrate visually in a room) so i do understand why developers may not elect to focus on the low notes, since, frankly, the minority of a minority would be able to take advantage of that. Cost/benefit does not make sense here. But one can dream right? Lol

Even I, to be honest/frank, probably do not get the full benefits of having a decent subwoofer (or my ears lol) since I never listen loud enough and bass tends to be something where the perceived volume is harder to hear than the rest of the sound spectrum. So me playing at -20db (or even lower, in terms of movies), I won't hear the bass in my content that well, so in some way all this "complaining" could be moot in my case. On another note, turning up close to reference volume for movies, frankly I do not understand how someone can listen at those volumes, it's too loud imo.

@BassMan: That is another excellent sub! Did not realize so many people on GS actually cared about good/decent sound! And you are right, Edge of Tomorrow is insane. First time I heard it to test scene on sub I had volume at like 75 (I think - 5db from "reference", I usually listen at max 60/-20db or lower since I live in an apartment and don't want to piss neighbors off...can't wait to move to a house so that I can enjoy sound properly but anything in decent neighborhood/close by is $1m/1.2m and up so I am sol for now) and I freaked out and immediately paused since I thought it may damage the sub lol. I do also rub the subs around 4db or so hotter than what autocal sets them to

As for the video game comment, I respectively disagree, the more bass the better lol, would not personally annoy me in the slightest. Then again, I might be a bass head and my music genre of choice is EDM (mostly trance/progressive house/deep house/house) so I am super biased lol

@AdamK47: Ah OK makes sense. Yeah a lot of people prefer the nice tight bass of sealed subwoofer (I keep hearing sealed subs are more musical too) . I tend to prefer ported on my end (since they tend to go down lower, for movies, love playing the first minute of edge of tomorrow and hearing everything in the room shake and rattle lol).

It's a shame most video games have terrible LFE/very little bass, imo developers should really start putting more of a focus on this, especially now after covid (since many people, from what I have seen, have upgraded their home sound setups during the pandemic, including myself, hell I had some cheap budget 2.1 setup with pioneer andrew jones speakers and a jbl sub when this all started).

@AdamK47: My god your setup looks amazing, job well done! I also like how you have used sound treatments, and toe'd in your speakers properly, that should further help everything else sound great (I should toe mine in too, but lol for some reason I do not like the way it looks when toe'd in even though that, in 90% of cases, is the proper way to do it). Also, use of towers as surrounds, great move (and frankly given the cost of quality speaker stands, in some ways going tower for surround, if placement allows it, makes a lot of sense, less compromise). That is a definition of a very very good mancave (lol whenever I think I have a decent mancave, I see something like this and I am like...yeah mine still needs plenty of work, really want to move one of my setups to 5.1.4 but damn receivers capable of that have gotten quite expensive). Anyway, just an amazing PC gaming and media consumption setup that you got there!

Literally the only comment I would have would be related to the choice of the subwoofers, curious why you decided to go with those instead of something else (like say HSU VTF-2 12inch, Monolith 12, SVS PB2000 or Rhytmik 12). Those all cost the same (or less if I recall correctly) than the ML but can go down lower. Granted in that relatively smaller room (from a pressurization perspective) I am sure the 2xML's work well too. Anyway was just curious on the decision, don't get me wrong not criticizing or anything.

@hallenbeck77:

Exactly, dude posts some random image off the internet. Only thing one can think is that he is embarrassed about his own, and therefote deflects. Which mind you I am not an elitist, everyone has a different setup based on their needs and budget, and that is all fine, but when he makes fun of say people who only own a switch or an Xbox or a PC, yet only owns a PS5 and even then doesn't even play it on a TV, that's kind of pathetic (he is kind of like a pot calling the kettle black situation). In my view got to put people like that (fanboys) in their place. Frankly, if I had to guess/bet, he is probably some overweight neckbeard who takes things too seriously and likes to troll since nothing better to do

And no problem happy to help! And yup completely cosmetic/form over function (but I feel like a lot of "gaming" peripherals are). My biggest issue is with the chairs (headphones, fine most people can't tell between good and meh ones sound wise) but the chairs are awful, completely uncomfortable, hurts back and etc (and this is coming from someone who is, or more accurately was, very fit at the time...less muscular now due to pandemic sadly, I am guessing heavier set people would be even more uncomfortable in the gaming chairs, I bought one when the pandemic started due to looks and since company was paying, and immediately returned it and got a proper office chair instead)