I agree with most people it should be something like Mario 64, I didn't enjoy the Galaxy games that much. Mario 64 was just one of those games.. oh, the memories...

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[QUOTE="spike6958"]Nintendo want's you to play there games, and explore there worlds for the adventure and fun to be had doing it, your reward for collecting all the heart pieces is having extra lives for harder parts of the game, your reward for collecting the gold skulltula's was the bigger wallets, rupees, stone of agony, and heart piece. Playing video games isn't something you should be rewarded for doing, it's a hobby, something fun to do at the end of the day/week, if you need these games to give you some kind of ego boost just because you pressed A enough times then you must have very little else worthwhile in your life.spike6958

Wow, easy there.. It's kinda funny how you judge my life just because I like trophies in video games.. I'm not boasting with them or need them to boost my ego, are you seeing anything like that in my signature?

It IS fun to me and probably for many other people too, or it wouldn't be done on any other platform including the PC... I just like to collect stuff in video games and this adds even more which equals in more playtime. See I don't give a crap about social networking stuff like Miiverse, Facebook and so on you still don't see me calling out people for having nothing worthwhile in their life.

I do have alot of other things going on in my life so don't you worry about me. Not so sure about you though..

Oh and where and when exactly did Nintendo say what you claimed in your first sentence?

It's a typical Japanese mindset, in there culture doing something and succeeding is seen as it's own reward, and if you gain something extra from it great, but you shouldn't need that additional incentive to do it, unlike western culture where everyone seems to demand praise and rewards for every little thing they do.

I've been to Japan several times and sorry to burst your bubble, but people there are highly competitiv gamers and completionists and I'm sure they enjoy the Achievement/Trophy system very much! Ever checked out the arcades there, where teenagers and young adults play for the highest score? Also there is ONLY success in Japan, in their culture failing is just not an option because it equals to losing your face. Please don't try to teach people some weeaboo BS.. I love japan and will go there many times to come, but I really hate when people glorify everything that comes from japan without even digging a little deeper...

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[QUOTE="zyphyr2k12"] I agree with this whole post, it is win :) . I think if people are finding the Wii U disappointing, they are in for a big surprise when the other guys finally show their stuff. People have been spoiled by the long console cycle and all the years that have went into perfecting the 360 and PS3. Man, fun times are ahead lol. The good thing is the Wii U should be hitting it's stride right when the other guys release their consoles. zyphyr2k12

I am very interested in what the competition will bring up in a year or two. WiiU deluxe is a slightly more powerful system with a complex controller and only 32gigs of memory and all this costs $350 (note also that it is selling at a loss at this price). If Microsoft or Sony dare to make a signicant leap like with this generation, I can only imagine what the price will be like. If it's as high $450 or above, I fear they will stumble like the Ps3. I think Nintendo has found the sweet spot: Innovative technology at an affortable price. If the next generation consoles catches on and boasting much more power, then the WiiU will follow the same fate as the Wii but without the successful sales.

I don't see whats the problem with blu ray ? A double layer can hold 50 GB opposed to WiiU's 25GB...

I heared that rumour too, and the real Xbox is said to run Windows 8 which IMO is a very bad idea.. let's just wait and see whats coming though, after all it's a rumour..

About the PS4. Of course the update will not be as big as PS2 -PS3 but I'm pretty sure it'll be way more powerfull than the WiiU. Hardware really isn't that expensive anymore and I can see them sell it for 350 - 400 and easily have hardware twice as good. Remember they won't have to spend as much money on the gamepad so they can use that money for hardware.

Nintendo want's you to play there games, and explore there worlds for the adventure and fun to be had doing it, your reward for collecting all the heart pieces is having extra lives for harder parts of the game, your reward for collecting the gold skulltula's was the bigger wallets, rupees, stone of agony, and heart piece. Playing video games isn't something you should be rewarded for doing, it's a hobby, something fun to do at the end of the day/week, if you need these games to give you some kind of ego boost just because you pressed A enough times then you must have very little else worthwhile in your life.spike6958

Wow, easy there.. It's kinda funny how you judge my life just because I like trophies in video games.. I'm not boasting with them or need them to boost my ego, are you seeing anything like that in my signature?

It IS fun to me and probably for many other people too, or it wouldn't be done on any other platform including the PC... I just like to collect stuff in video games and this adds even more which equals in more playtime. See I don't give a crap about social networking stuff like Miiverse, Facebook and so on you still don't see me calling out people for having nothing worthwhile in their life.

I do have alot of other things going on in my life so don't you worry about me. Not so sure about you though..

Oh and where and when exactly did Nintendo say what you claimed in your first sentence?

Vita has no games, so you should buy a 3DS instead

loosingENDS

Excuse me, but thats bs! The Vita currently has more games that I enjoy than the 3DS. And with Person 4 Golden being relesed now the vita becomes a must have IMO. I like the 3DS but I'm disappointed with the game selection. Also the Vita just received the PS+ treatment, so if you have PS+ you will get Uncharted and Gravity Rush for free!

Also the prices on PSN are alot better, 3DS games tend to be 10-15 more expensive on e-shop than Vita games no matter old they are..They charge 44 for Pilot Wings Resort atm that game is available for half in most stores..

The WiiU doesn't need to be a super powerfull console IMO. If it can run games with the graphical quality of the Zelda demo, then I'm more than happy for the next few years.. Nintendo titles usually don't need photorealistic graphics so I really don't care much about the WiiU's hardware. We will see whats gunna happen with the mutiplatform games, personally I'm only interested in Nintendos IPs anyway and without a doubt these games WILL look great.

What I do find very disapponting is that the WiiU cannot upscale Wii games. Honestly that was something I was looking forward too and I got very upset when they announced it won't be able to do that. Also what I mentioned before 32 GB with 23 GB free space is a bad joke.. Memory is very cheap nowadays and they have absolutely NO excuse for that cut. The guy who said it'll be enough for a while should know that WiiU games can be up to 25 GB meaning that you might not even fit a single game onto your HDD, I don't see how this'll be enough for a while. Not to mention DLC and patches etc. let's face it the memory is the worst thing they did..

The gamepad is interesting and I really like it, though I wish the resolution was a little higher 480p is less than what most smartphones have. With 6" they really shoul've aimed for 544p or even 720p.

The absolut worst thing about this launch though are the games, there isn't a single game that interests me. No Zelda (hell it's not even close) no 3D Mario (same) and barely any exclusives worth buying. Most games are rather mediocre ports of games I already played. I really was looking forward to get a WiiU close to launch but not with a selction of games like this.

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I didn't care much about them either, but since replaying a few of my favourit games as HD remakes I really gotten into them. It kinda gave me a good feeling, like I'm paying my tribute to those games by completing them 100%. I'm not planning on getting the WiiU yet (waiting for the first party AAA's) so I guess there is still hope, PS3 was late to the game as well.

zyphyr2k12

I don't see how trophies/achievements would force anyone to play the game in a specific way... They are completely optional an can be simply ignored by people who don't care for them. I've owned every Nintendo console since the NES, so I'd consider myself somewhat of a Nintendo fan and I do care for some sort of trophies/achievement equivalent.

I'd love to play through an OoT and MM HD remake to get some sort of reward I didn't get before like: collect all heart pieces, collect all gold skulltula and so on. It's easy for you to say: "I agree with them for not implementing them, I don't care for them", but there are also people that do care for them and those are kinda screwed while you could simply ignore them if you don't like them..

I'll buy the console either way but I really would like to see some sort of achievment system in the future.

I didn't care much about them either, but since replaying a few of my favourit games as HD remakes I really gotten into them. It kinda gave me a good feeling, like I'm paying my tribute to those games by completing them 100%. I'm not planning on getting the WiiU yet (waiting for the first party AAA's) so I guess there is still hope, PS3 was late to the game as well.

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I don't see the problem. Gamespot is only pointing out some very serious issues with the capability and design of the Wii U. 15 seconds between menus, hardware that is already a generation behind, resistive touch screens? I have plenty of Nintendo hardware, but even Nintendo are taking a big risk with this console and they can't rely on their first party software IP forever.

Vickman178

All of those negatives were blown way out of proportion in the article, it doesn't take 15 seconds for everything on the OS to load and its not a generation behind and the resitive touchscreen aren't even that bad. Hell its better for drawing and you can see the crazy art people make on miiverse.

He never said everything takes 15 seconds to load, he said the "Settings App" takes 12-14 seconds to load. Anyway, he does have some valid points and I don't see how this should offend anyone. EVERY console gets criticized, and let's face it nintendo did mess up with some things especially with the internal memory which is an insult by todays standards (even more at that price!)... Hell my phone has twice as much memory!..

I have no problem pointing out flaws in all systems I own. No console is and will ever be perfect, people need to stop getting offended if someone is pointing out flaws about their new gadgets. Nothing is perfect, just deal with it! I will have alot of fun with the WiiU when Mario and Zelda games will come out and untill then I'm sure they ironed out most of the problems.

I didn't find a conclusive answer to how the "Accomplishments" are implemented. I don't care much about in game accomplishments, I was really hoping for a Trophy/Achivementsequivalent. So is there anything like it?