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#1 zidura
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the diffrence would be marginal.  detail will be slightly better,  but its really ment for high def tv.  so yea better quality then dvd but will not see the whole diffrence if you where watching on a hd tv.raziel7583
It will not be better quality. It will be downscaling a 1080p image to 480i on a standard TV and to 480p on an EDTV (enhanced definition). It could potentially look worse than a standard DVD due to the downscaling, but certainly not better.
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#2 zidura
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Sorry to say this but 50,000 is not exactly a great number for weekly sales.  It's not horrible, but it's not great either.
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#3 zidura
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It will still work at 480p but there's absolutely no point in having that.  Just use the built-in DVD player for the same picture quality.
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#4 zidura
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[QUOTE="zidura"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="zidura"]Here's why I prefer consoles:

I walk up to my 360, insert disc, and play.
It looks great on my widescreen HDTV, no major adjustments or set-up necessary. I can play with a group of friends on live or in a group in my den and have a great social experience as I play.


On the PC -- mine (like many other people) is set up in an office type room with a smaller monitor and an office chair, using a keyboard and mouse, limited to only one player. It's not a social experience except perhaps for the people I play with online. There is no integrated friends- live type service for easily meeting up online friends and playing. I have to install games, new drivers, upgrade components, and so on to get games to run decently. Getting into a simple online game involves many steps in terms of actually connecting to some online service like Gamespy and then finding a decent server that doesn't have some weird mods that make it so I can't join the game (Battlefield 2, anyone?). At this point in time I basically need a whole new computer as my PC is starting to show its age. It will cost me over $1000 to get a set-up that will run games well.


Basically, it's just easier and more of a social experience to play on consoles.
True_Gamer_


Ive been playing PES6 PC with my buddies on my HDTV for 4 months now...I guess that must been an illusion...

Yeah I've hooked up my PC to an HDTV before as well, but that still doesn't account for all the other arguments about a PC being more hassle than a console. MOST people -- I did say LIKE MANY OTHER PEOPLE-- have their PC's set up in an office desk type arrangement. It still is not as streamlined or simple as a console whether or not it's hooked up to an HDTV.



Do you want me to tell you how much I care about OTHER strangers? 0 Yep that right NOTHING, NADA....
I only post about myself and I dot give a squat what some casual thousads of miles is doing...
The fact remains that you can connect the PC to the HDTV and for me play the only game that HAS to be played on same screen: PES6...

Then why bother posting if you don't care about other peoples' opinions? What's the point of posting then? You still didn't refute many of the major reasons that many people choose consoles over PC's. But yeah whatever. Enjoy your PC gaming. This isn't worth typing about any more.
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#5 zidura
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[QUOTE="zidura"]Here's why I prefer consoles:

I walk up to my 360, insert disc, and play.
It looks great on my widescreen HDTV, no major adjustments or set-up necessary. I can play with a group of friends on live or in a group in my den and have a great social experience as I play.


On the PC -- mine (like many other people) is set up in an office type room with a smaller monitor and an office chair, using a keyboard and mouse, limited to only one player. It's not a social experience except perhaps for the people I play with online. There is no integrated friends- live type service for easily meeting up online friends and playing. I have to install games, new drivers, upgrade components, and so on to get games to run decently. Getting into a simple online game involves many steps in terms of actually connecting to some online service like Gamespy and then finding a decent server that doesn't have some weird mods that make it so I can't join the game (Battlefield 2, anyone?). At this point in time I basically need a whole new computer as my PC is starting to show its age. It will cost me over $1000 to get a set-up that will run games well.


Basically, it's just easier and more of a social experience to play on consoles.
True_Gamer_


Ive been playing PES6 PC with my buddies on my HDTV for 4 months now...I guess that must been an illusion...

Yeah I've hooked up my PC to an HDTV before as well, but that still doesn't account for all the other arguments about a PC being more hassle than a console. MOST people -- I did say LIKE MANY OTHER PEOPLE-- have their PC's set up in an office desk type arrangement. It still is not as streamlined or simple as a console whether or not it's hooked up to an HDTV.
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#6 zidura
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Here's why I prefer consoles:

I walk up to my 360, insert disc, and play.
It looks great on my widescreen HDTV, no major adjustments or set-up necessary.  I can play with a group of friends on live or in a group in my den and have a great social experience as I play.


On the PC -- mine (like many other people) is set up in an office type room with a smaller monitor and an office chair, using a keyboard and mouse, limited to only one player.  It's not a social experience except perhaps for the people I play with online.  There is no integrated friends- live type service for easily meeting up online friends and playing.  I have to install games, new drivers, upgrade components, and so on to get games to run decently.  Getting into a simple online game involves many steps in terms of actually connecting to some online service like Gamespy and then finding a decent server that doesn't have some weird mods that make it so I can't join the game (Battlefield 2, anyone?).  At this point in time I basically need a whole new computer as my PC is starting to show its age.  It will cost me over $1000 to get a set-up that will run games well.


Basically, it's just easier and more of a social experience to play on consoles.
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#7 zidura
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[QUOTE="avenger_dot"]How is that ? They are ONLY on PC/360, so exclusive to those two platforms

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The games are on multiple platforms... thus they are multiplatform. Sure Microsoft still makes money from people who buy Windows, but not everyone games on Windows. PC gaming is a lot more varied than console gaming, Microsoft may hold a large portion of the market, but they do not hold complete control.

Developers can and most likely will start making games for more platforms other than Windows soon enough, seeing the influx of Linux and MacOS.

I myself will continue gaming on Windows, just because it is easy, and I will most likely get a 360 in the future. You just have to admit, that games on multiple platforms ARE multiplatform... NOT exclusive.

True they are on PC, but this is generally considered a console war -- PC will always be there regardless. PC has seen NES evolve to SNES to N64 to gamecube, etcetra. PC has been there during Genesis and Saturn and Dreamcast. PC's may be upgraded, but the consoles have completely changed from one generation to the next. So it's safe to assume that this is a console war - not so much a console and PC war. One console will be more popular and therefore have more exclusive games (exclusive to that console as opposed to the other consoles having the game -- not necessarily exclusive from PC's). So in terms of consoles, the 360 currently has a pretty good list of exclusives. These games may also be available to PC users, but not to other console users. The real money for most games is in the console market. This is where you see multi-million unit sales in a few short weeks or months (excluding games like WOW which rake in huge amounts in monthly subscriptions). The consoles drive the market and the consoles mark the generation change in technology as PC's change more gradually with incremental but constant improvements. So yes, PC's can be great gaming machines, but they do not make the gaming market move like consoles do.
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#8 zidura
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I think it really depends on your finances. For me, I'd rather enjoy it now than wait a year or half a year to play those games. Then if I must trade it in (you won't HAVE to get the new version) I could lose maybe $200 in the process of trading in or selling the old 360 for a new one. In the meantime, I've enjoyed playing the 360. I bought mine last February as soon as I could get one (launch period was impossible to find one) and have now been enjoying it more than any console I had before (I've had lots of other consoles). Besides, do you really need the 360 just to have IPTV? Most people have DVR's, TiVo's, or DVD recorders, or -- dare I say it? -- VCR's for that sort of stuff anyways.
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#9 zidura
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In response to Lukedeem:
I do know quite a bit about the differences between HDMI and analog video outputs but that's irrelevant. My point is simply that you bought something and you got what you paid for. You weren't misled in what you purchased. Technology will always improve and not over a long period of time necessarily either.

Take my TV for example. I bought a 42" Sony Grand Wega LCD. Within a few months of my purchase, Sony brought out a newer, better model of the same TV with a better processor, more video inputs (like VGA, for example) and a more streamlined appearance (speakers hidden and overall appearance improved). Should I phone up Sony and complain that they improved their TV so soon after I purchased mine? Wouldn't that be ridiculous?

I'll probably trade in my original 360 when the new one comes out (assuming it's not bogus) at a small financial loss. That's life with technology, I guess.
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#10 zidura
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People who are complaining about getting "screwed" out of something -- you bought what you wanted with the money you chose to spend on that item. You did not get screwed out of anything. Microsoft did not mislead you to believe that your 360 had HDMI and you bought the console knowing it only used component or VGA out for HD.

All of these electronic products get revised in some way over the years. Take the Nintendo DS as an example. It has seen a few revisions. So has the PS2. So have products like Ipods, cars, TV's, stereos, etc. Just enjoy what you have and buy the new version if you really want it when it comes out.