Samsung Barred from Selling Galaxy Tab in European Union

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]i agree with everything 110million said in his first 2 posts because he's f***ing right you mad elitist rich folk who think buying techno-crap makes you cool?Jandurin

Jand, preaching dat trooth.

[QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]What are you even talking about? Are you still arguing apple vs. android? Or are you saying I should get a new wife?Jandurin

And be stuck in the past? Not all of us are grumpy old men. 

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Heil68"][QUOTE="Jandurin"]What are you even talking about? Are you still arguing apple vs. android? Or are you saying I should get a new wife?SilverChimera

And be stuck in the past? Not all of us are grumpy old men. 

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]what a fantastic bullcrap by Apple, thankfully Apple is not Nintendo or we would be playing with joysicks right now, ONLY NINTENDO MAKES CONTROLLERS :cry:musicalmac

ha that would've been awesome lol. 

and CMON un-ban the banned member.HAZE-Unit

[QUOTE="HAZE-Unit"]and CMON un-ban the banned member.Jandurin

oh that sucks, let me call them....

ADMINS!!

:P  

It wasn't all that common until Apple released it and made a killing on it. In fact it didn't exist at all on tablets. The other thing to keep in mind is that there is always more than meets the eye with these sorts of legal battles. It is easy to just dismiss it as Apple being a tyrant, but when you cut through the old crap cake, it is one company defending what they believe to be their own intellectual property, perfected through their own research and development (Apple's R&D budget is, substantial). It goes without saying that Apple's unbelievable success is the reason people are reacting so strongly to this news. It's like everyone admitting that Apple is so good it's unfair to everyone else, so they should cut Samsung and Motorola a break. Maybe we should put more pressure on those companies to introduce a new kind of product that changes the technological culture around us. What about that?musicalmac

But best/most popular/most deserving of success are irrelevant: the fundamental issue is what about the iPad is patent-worthy, and does the Tab 10.1 (and Xoom, apparently) infringe on those genuinely inventive features? You can't just patent a tablet (or at least you shouldn't be able to) because it fails the basic test of inventive step/non-obviousness -- as years upon years of sci-fi films have demonstrated (nevermind the various tablets and tablet-like devices that pre-date the iPad), no duh, a handheld computer with a touchscreen is a pretty great-but-obvious idea. A patent is supposed to cover the specifics of an invention, not "yep, it's a tablet" like the design patent that's apparently the basis for Apple's case(s). 

Granted, maybe there is more to this than "Apple uses overly broad patent and comically biased legal juristiction to stifle legitimate competition", but I sure haven't heard anything to the contrary (and I usually end up semi-defending Apple). 

If all OSes were made equal in terms of games, I would be using Linux all day erryday.

Especially since in a week I'll have my info security degree. :wink:  

 

110million

But best/most popular/most deserving of success are irrelevant:PBSnipes

THANK you

...the fundamental issue is what about the iPad is patent-worthy, and does the Tab 10.1 (and Xoom, apparently) infringe on those genuinely inventive features? You can't just patent a tablet (or at least you shouldn't be able to) because it fails the basic test of inventive step/non-obviousness -- as years upon years of sci-fi films have demonstrated (nevermind the various tablets and tablet-like devices that pre-date the iPad), no duh, a handheld computer with a touchscreen is a pretty great-but-obvious idea. A patent is supposed to cover the specifics of an invention, not "yep, it's a tablet" like the design patent that's apparently the basis for Apple's case(s). 

Granted, maybe there is more to this than "Apple uses overly broad patent and comically biased legal juristiction to stifle legitimate competition", but I sure haven't heard anything to the contrary (and I usually end up semi-defending Apple). 

PBSnipse

I don't have all the answers, I thought I'd just bring it here and see how it played out. It does seem extra broad to me, too. But like I said earlier, objectively when you cut down through the crap cake, it is one company defending something they believe to be their IP.

Yeah, I think our discussion was very different from the rest of the thread.

So with that in mind: I picked myself up a Nexus S a few weeks ago and it's actually pretty spectacular. Once more devs jump on the platform and the Marketplace rounds out, I'd give it the nod over iOS (currently, obvioously. Who knows how iOS 5 v. ICS will turn out). 

In summary, Android roolz, Apple droolz.

GUFU hasn't had an entertaining thread like this in ages. :lol:tagyhag

I know! We need some more **** like this around here, this board is a regular snooze most of the time. 

I don't often make threads. But when I do, I make sure they don't suck.

I don't think I've seen so much stupid congregated into one place at one time on this board before. EVER. :lol:

Thanks for a great thread, Mac. I mean, Jesus, some of these arguments.  

Sweet.........Jesus...........

I am glad I was away for a few days.

This turned out to be a very interesting read. The title is misleading btw.

It's banned everywhere, except the Netherlands. Because we are boss8)

Damn it I liked million :(SpinoRaptor24

110mil got banned because he got frustrated and decided to start reporting all of my posts, which got him on the admin radar, which lead to them discovering a linked alternate (banned) account, which in turn lead to him being banned (again). It was completely self-inflicted. So, you can leave the conspiracy theories behind. ;)musicalmac

Oh snap. 

As John at Edible Apple and others have pointed out, Apple's evidentiary submission is not limited to the inaccurate comparison photo, as Apple did also offer a number of other exhibits in support of its case, including some showing actual side-by-side photos of the iPad 2 and Galaxy Tab 10.1 rather than just promotional images. Consequently, it stands to reason that the judge's decision was not based entirely on the flawed comparison, although the inclusion of inaccurate information in Apple's submission certainly is a curious one.MacRumors

Interesting update. Provides more information.

Yeah, well Google just bought Motorola

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-08-16/google-buys-motorola-for-superpower-status-in-feud-with-apple.html

Apple is in trouble now! Because Xoom 2.0 will finally be the iPad killer :P 

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]110mil got banned because he got frustrated and decided to start reporting all of my posts, which got him on the admin radar, which lead to them discovering a linked alternate (banned) account, which in turn lead to him being banned (again). It was completely self-inflicted. So, you can leave the conspiracy theories behind. ;)789shadow

Oh snap. 

110mil got banned because he got frustrated and decided to start reporting all of my posts, which got him on the admin radar, which lead to them discovering a linked alternate (banned) account, which in turn lead to him being banned (again). It was completely self-inflicted. So, you can leave the conspiracy theories behind. ;)musicalmac

I knew his banned account and I knew he was ban dodging. I could even PM you the name of his banned account if you want. Was it wrong that I never reported him despite that......kage_53

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]110mil got banned because he got frustrated and decided to start reporting all of my posts, which got him on the admin radar, which lead to them discovering a linked alternate (banned) account, which in turn lead to him being banned (again). It was completely self-inflicted. So, you can leave the conspiracy theories behind. ;)kage_53

Nobody likes a tattle tale.

Wow. I can't believe you people care so much about tablet pc's. Those are so **** stupid. I can't think of any situation where a tablet would be better than a laptop.kage_53

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]110mil got banned because he got frustrated and decided to start reporting all of my posts, which got him on the admin radar, which lead to them discovering a linked alternate (banned) account, which in turn lead to him being banned (again). It was completely self-inflicted. So, you can leave the conspiracy theories behind. ;)kage_53

And has anyone used a Blackberry Playbook yet? It's so darn small, kind of the in-between sized tablet. The useless size.musicalmac

No because lolblackberry, but the form factor is supposed to actually be pretty useful. It's big enough you can comfortably use it for tablet-y stuff like browsing and watching videos, but small enough that you're more likely to carry it around when on-the-go than a relatively large iPad.

No because lolblackberryPBSnipes

... but the form factor is supposed to actually be pretty useful. It's big enough you can comfortably use it for tablet-y stuff like browsing and watching videos, but small enough that you're more likely to carry it around when on-the-go than a relatively large iPad.

PBSnipes

Cannot agree. It's really, really small.

[QUOTE="musicalmac"]And has anyone used a Blackberry Playbook yet? It's so darn small, kind of the in-between sized tablet. The useless size.PBSnipes

No because lolblackberry, but the form factor is supposed to actually be pretty useful. It's big enough you can comfortably use it for tablet-y stuff like browsing and watching videos, but small enough that you're more likely to carry it around when on-the-go than a relatively large iPad.

[QUOTE="kage_53"][QUOTE="musicalmac"]110mil got banned because he got frustrated and decided to start reporting all of my posts, which got him on the admin radar, which lead to them discovering a linked alternate (banned) account, which in turn lead to him being banned (again). It was completely self-inflicted. So, you can leave the conspiracy theories behind. ;)Jandurin