Are men discriminated against??

It seems that they are.
First of all lots, of people think men are evil if they defend them selves against a women. If a man is in a relationship and the women cheats usually people will still think the man is the bad person, and they will blame the man for the women cheating.
Also I've found out recently that there is a lot more attention payed to breast cancer then prostate cancer.

I feel like I am discriminated against, it's like if I get prostate cancer no one will help cause no one pays attention to it, if I get beat up by a women there is no shelter for men to go to.
All the time I always hear about deadbeat dads who can't pay child support, um not all men have great jobs and they still have bills to pay and all kinds of other stuff.

I was watching a youtube video and it was of a women beating up some man. She wasn't really beating him up it was fake, but they wanted to see how people would react.
So no one did anything, there was a women who cheered the other women on, and there was a cop who walked right by. The cop told someone that he didn't think the women could cause any harm to the man. Then the cop was asked "what if a man was beating up a women" and the cop said he would arrest the man.
So it's good to know if I am getting beat up that no one will help me, people say not to hit a women back but if a women is beating me up I will defend my self cause no one else will help.


So do you think men are discriminated against??

Ofcourse.. but that doesn't change the fact that women are also, just on different fields.

Alot of people get discriminated againest, it's just often that those that do are in a minority they just have loud views and opinions.

No, at least nowhere near the level that women are discriminated against. Besides, the reason prostate cancer is largely uncared for is because men just kinda accept their fate, sort of like saying "meh, who cares?"

Umm... no. They're not :|

It seems that they are.
First of all lots, of people think men are evil if they defend them selves against a women. Fair enough. If a man is in a relationship and the women cheats usually people will still think the man is the bad person, and they will blame the man for the women cheating. Where the hell do you live? O_o
Also I've found out recently that there is a lot more attention payed to breast cancer then prostate cancer. Perhaps because breast cancer is more dangerous >_>

I feel like I am discriminated against, it's like if I get prostate cancer no one will help cause no one pays attention to it Apart from, you know, the doctor, if I get beat up by a women there is no shelter for men to go to. Lack of demand.
All the time I always hear about deadbeat dads who can't pay child support, um not all men have great jobs and they still have bills to pay and all kinds of other stuff. Asking men to support their own children? Appalling!

I was watching a youtube video and it was of a women beating up some man. She wasn't really beating him up it was fake, but they wanted to see how people would react.
So no one did anything, there was a women who cheered the other women on, and there was a cop who walked right by. The cop told someone that he didn't think the women could cause any harm to the man. Then the cop was asked "what if a man was beating up a women" and the cop said he would arrest the man.
So it's good to know if I am getting beat up that no one will help me, people say not to hit a women back but if a women is beating me up I will defend my self cause no one else will help. Honestly, the thing about defending yourself against a woman is pretty much the only thing I agree with here. U_U


So do you think men are discriminated against??

joshrocks2245

All the time I always hear about deadbeat dads who can't pay child support, um not all men have great jobs and they still have bills to pay and all kinds of other stuff.joshrocks2245

No, at least nowhere near the level that women are discriminated against. Besides, the reason prostate cancer is largely uncared for is because men just kinda accept their fate, sort of like saying "meh, who cares?"

Shiggums

Men just accept their fate?? :?
So if you were told you had cancer and you were going to die in a few months, you wouldn't care??

Wow, I didn't know men didn't care if they died. I know I don't want to die, and I never want cancer.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]All the time I always hear about deadbeat dads who can't pay child support, um not all men have great jobs and they still have bills to pay and all kinds of other stuff.Rocky32189

No but women should pay for the child too.

I heard of one case that a man killed him self because he had no money left because he had to pay so much money for child support.
He also had to pay for his food and his bills.
It seems people don't think it's bad how much men have to pay.

Of course men should pay for their children, but if a man has a bad job and can barely afford food then I don't think he should be forced to pay a lot.

[QUOTE="Rocky32189"][QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]All the time I always hear about deadbeat dads who can't pay child support, um not all men have great jobs and they still have bills to pay and all kinds of other stuff.joshrocks2245

No but women should pay for the child too.

I heard of one case that a man killed him self because he had no money left because he had to pay so much money for child support.
He also had to pay for his food and his bills.
It seems people don't think it's bad how much men have to pay.

Of course men should pay for their children, but if a man has a bad job and can barely afford food then I don't think he should be forced to pay a lot.

Umm... no. They're not :|

Bioshockraptor

...are you kidding? I hope so. :P

Seriously, everyone gets discriminated against, including men.

No. Men keep whinging about all these inequal rights but they're fine doing the very top jobs in the world. And the amount of women that abuse men is insignificant compared to the amount of men that abuse women. Women are still the butt of sexist jokes and you'll find if a women cheats she is blamed. Where did you pull that 'fact' from? Your arse?tofu-lion91

That's funny...I almost don't wan't to drop my 2 cents anymore...hmm...

Maybe I should stay out of this one, as I would probably cause more harm than good...

Maybe I should stay out of this one, as I would probably cause more harm than good...

spoofnutz

[QUOTE="spoofnutz"]

Maybe I should stay out of this one, as I would probably cause more harm than good...

tofu-lion91

NO! Absolutely not. Nevermind. I'm ditching this one.

No. Men keep whinging about all these inequal rights but they're fine doing the very top jobs in the world. And the amount of women that abuse men is insignificant compared to the amount of men that abuse women. Women are still the butt of sexist jokes and you'll find if a women cheats she is blamed. Where did you pull that 'fact' from? Your arse?tofu-lion91

First of all not every single man has a great job. It's not that easy to get a great job, and the people who get those jobs are both men and women and they work hard to get to the top.
The only reason people think men abuse women more then women who abuse men is because usually men won't tell anyone if they are abused. It's been proved that men get abused a lot.
If a women cheats sometime she gets blamed, but lots of the time I have heard men getting blamed when a women cheats. I have heard that a lot, many places.

NO! Absolutely not. Nevermind. I'm ditching this one.spoofnutz

First of all not every single man has a great job. It's not that easy to get a great job, and the people who get those jobs are both men and women and they work hard to get to the top.
The only reason people think men abuse women more then women who abuse men is because usually men won't tell anyone if they are abused. It's been proved that men get abused a lot.
If a women cheats sometime she gets blamed, but lots of the time I have heard men getting blamed when a women cheats. I have heard that a lot, many places.

joshrocks2245

The video you are referring to present two very different situations, if you can't see the difference between a cold malicious larger and overbearing man hurting a smaller women (not to mention she's hot) compared to an overly emotional outburst of a women of similar stature that is mainly just a flailing of limbs then that is your problem. I won't deny there is some discrimination against men but it largely stems from the idea that women need protecting and can't protect themselves, a rather misogynist idea in itself. Not to mention the instances of women beating up men is miniscule compared to the amount it happens in reverse, of course they should be treated just as seriously but there just isn't the need there right now for shelters and whatnot. And I don't know where you live but here there are just as many adverts for prostate cancer as there are for breast cancer. Women are still fighting outdated cultural norms, are still struggling to gain acceptance in fields such as maths, science and areas that require physical prowess.bean-with-bacon

First of all not all men are large and strong. I know lots of men do weight more then women, but not all men do. There are lots of strong women and even if some of them are small, they can still beat someone up pretty good. Most women can beat up a man, I know most women could probably beat me up if I didn't defend my self.

Why isn't there a need for shelters?? Where are men supposed to go if they are in a abusive relationship?? Where are men supposed to go if a women is trying to kill them??
I didn't even know a lot about prostate cancer until a few months ago because I researched it. I knew about breast cancer years ago before I ever researched it.

Women do have acceptance in all fields, and I do actually see more women working then men these days.

The only reason people think men abuse women more then women who abuse men is because usually men won't tell anyone if they are abused. It's been proved that men get abused a lot.

joshrocks2245

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]First of all not every single man has a great job. It's not that easy to get a great job, and the people who get those jobs are both men and women and they work hard to get to the top.
The only reason people think men abuse women more then women who abuse men is because usually men won't tell anyone if they are abused. It's been proved that men get abused a lot.
If a women cheats sometime she gets blamed, but lots of the time I have heard men getting blamed when a women cheats. I have heard that a lot, many places.

tofu-lion91

I'm whining about it?? I'm not whining about anything, I am saying that men are discriminated against and most people don't care.
People just accept it and that is not the right thing to do.

Most people won't believe that a man is abused, I've known men who have called the cops when they were abused by a women and the cops didn't believe them, so the men continue to be abused.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

The only reason people think men abuse women more then women who abuse men is because usually men won't tell anyone if they are abused. It's been proved that men get abused a lot.

bean-with-bacon

Why do you think I make these things up?? Have you ever searched for "domestic abuse against men" on google?? Have you ever seen the facts??
Have you ever heard the stories men tell about how they are abused and no one does anything about it??

Have you ever heard of someone called kelly bensimon?? She punched her boy friend in the face, and no one in the media talked about it.
When Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, thats all everyone was talking about it.

Just search for abuse against men on google and you will see the facts.

No. Men keep whinging about all these inequal rights but they're fine doing the very top jobs in the world. And the amount of women that abuse men is insignificant compared to the amount of men that abuse women. Women are still the butt of sexist jokes and you'll find if a women cheats she is blamed. Where did you pull that 'fact' from? Your arse?tofu-lion91

Wouldn't you rather be a butt end of a joke, than someone who has to give up half of their salary every month? :?

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]The video you are referring to present two very different situations, if you can't see the difference between a cold malicious larger and overbearing man hurting a smaller women (not to mention she's hot) compared to an overly emotional outburst of a women of similar stature that is mainly just a flailing of limbs then that is your problem. I won't deny there is some discrimination against men but it largely stems from the idea that women need protecting and can't protect themselves, a rather misogynist idea in itself. Not to mention the instances of women beating up men is miniscule compared to the amount it happens in reverse, of course they should be treated just as seriously but there just isn't the need there right now for shelters and whatnot. And I don't know where you live but here there are just as many adverts for prostate cancer as there are for breast cancer. Women are still fighting outdated cultural norms, are still struggling to gain acceptance in fields such as maths, science and areas that require physical prowess.joshrocks2245

First of all not all men are large and strong. I know lots of men do weight more then women, but not all men do. There are lots of strong women and even if some of them are small, they can still beat someone up pretty good. Most women can beat up a man, I know most women could probably beat me up if I didn't defend my self.

Why isn't there a need for shelters?? Where are men supposed to go if they are in a abusive relationship?? Where are men supposed to go if a women is trying to kill them??
I didn't even know a lot about prostate cancer until a few months ago because I researched it. I knew about breast cancer years ago before I ever researched it.

Women do have acceptance in all fields, and I do actually see more women working then men these days.

Sorry but your personal experiences are pretty much irrelevant and should not be considered a representation of the issues at hand, provide some statistical data to back up your points.

If men are getting beaten up by women they should go to the police, it's a crime you know :roll:

If you did not know of prostate cancer then that is a problem with your health education, you also seem to be ignoring the fact that breast is usually far more deadly then prostate cancer (not to mention it can occur in men too)

Again your personal experiences are irrelevant and it is naive and ignorant to think women are held in the same regard in all work fields.

I'm whining about it?? I'm not whining about anything, I am saying that men are discriminated against and most people don't care.
People just accept it and that is not the right thing to do.

Most people won't believe that a man is abused, I've known men who have called the cops when they were abused by a women and the cops didn't believe them, so the men continue to be abused.

joshrocks2245

Why isn't there a need for shelters?? Where are men supposed to go if they are in a abusive relationship?? joshrocks2245

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"][QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

The only reason people think men abuse women more then women who abuse men is because usually men won't tell anyone if they are abused. It's been proved that men get abused a lot.

joshrocks2245

Why do you think I make these things up?? Have you ever searched for "domestic abuse against men" on google?? Have you ever seen the facts??
Have you ever heard the stories men tell about how they are abused and no one does anything about it??

Have you ever heard of someone called kelly bensimon?? She punched her boy friend in the face, and no one in the media talked about it.
When Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, thats all everyone was talking about it.

Just search for abuse against men on google and you will see the facts.

You seem to be ignoring the social stigma issue I brought up, the sexism against men stems from the sexism against women, also the burden of proof is on you, provide me with some links.

Rihanna got a lot of media attention because it would sell more, no man wants to admit they got beaten up by a women, and Rihanna is hot, men get all angry when someone beats up their sexual idol, because again, they think women need protecting. Not to mention most people hate Chris Brown.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]The video you are referring to present two very different situations, if you can't see the difference between a cold malicious larger and overbearing man hurting a smaller women (not to mention she's hot) compared to an overly emotional outburst of a women of similar stature that is mainly just a flailing of limbs then that is your problem. I won't deny there is some discrimination against men but it largely stems from the idea that women need protecting and can't protect themselves, a rather misogynist idea in itself. Not to mention the instances of women beating up men is miniscule compared to the amount it happens in reverse, of course they should be treated just as seriously but there just isn't the need there right now for shelters and whatnot. And I don't know where you live but here there are just as many adverts for prostate cancer as there are for breast cancer. Women are still fighting outdated cultural norms, are still struggling to gain acceptance in fields such as maths, science and areas that require physical prowess.bean-with-bacon

First of all not all men are large and strong. I know lots of men do weight more then women, but not all men do. There are lots of strong women and even if some of them are small, they can still beat someone up pretty good. Most women can beat up a man, I know most women could probably beat me up if I didn't defend my self.

Why isn't there a need for shelters?? Where are men supposed to go if they are in a abusive relationship?? Where are men supposed to go if a women is trying to kill them??
I didn't even know a lot about prostate cancer until a few months ago because I researched it. I knew about breast cancer years ago before I ever researched it.

Women do have acceptance in all fields, and I do actually see more women working then men these days.

Sorry but your personal experiences are pretty much irrelevant and should not be considered a representation of the issues at hand, provide some statistical data to back up your points.

If men are getting beaten up by women they should go to the police, it's a crime you know :roll:

If you did not know of prostate cancer then that is a problem with your health education, you also seem to be ignoring the fact that breast is usually far more deadly then prostate cancer (not to mention it can occur in men too)

Again your personal experiences are irrelevant and it is naive and ignorant to think women are held in the same regard in all work fields.

Dude just search on google for abuse against men and you will see all the statistical data and proof.

Yeah they do go to the police but the police don't always believe the men, thats been proved to.
Just watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks It's of people reacting to a women beating up a man in public.
Do you see anything wrong happening in that video or no??

Well I have been taught about breast cancer but not prostate cancer, if I never researched it I never would have known to get checked out someday.

Well most of them do work in the same fields, so I am not ignorant because I see it.
My personal experinces are irrelevant?? What am I not a man or something?? My experinces are relevant.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"] That is just social stigma, that it is shamefull to have been beaten up by a woman, another rather sexist belief, I would also like to see your facts on the amount of men who are abused rather then you just pulling them out of your ass.bean-with-bacon

Why do you think I make these things up?? Have you ever searched for "domestic abuse against men" on google?? Have you ever seen the facts??
Have you ever heard the stories men tell about how they are abused and no one does anything about it??

Have you ever heard of someone called kelly bensimon?? She punched her boy friend in the face, and no one in the media talked about it.
When Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, thats all everyone was talking about it.

Just search for abuse against men on google and you will see the facts.

You seem to be ignoring the social stigma issue I brought up, the sexism against men stems from the sexism against women, also the burden of proof is on you, provide me with some links.

Rihanna got a lot of media attention because it would sell more, no man wants to admit they got beaten up by a women, and Rihanna is hot, men get all angry when someone beats up their sexual idol, because again, they think women need protecting. Not to mention most people hate Chris Brown.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]I'm whining about it?? I'm not whining about anything, I am saying that men are discriminated against and most people don't care.
People just accept it and that is not the right thing to do.

Most people won't believe that a man is abused, I've known men who have called the cops when they were abused by a women and the cops didn't believe them, so the men continue to be abused.

tofu-lion91

Why isn't there a need for shelters?? Where are men supposed to go if they are in a abusive relationship?? joshrocks2245

They don't report it because when they do the cops don't believe them.

Yeah maybe if cops believed men when they say they get abused then maybe men could have shelters.
So tell me, if a women is stalking me and is threatening to kill me, who do I go to if the cops don't believe me?? Do I just move away to another city or something??
Do I protect my self with a gun or what??

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"] That is just social stigma, that it is shamefull to have been beaten up by a woman, another rather sexist belief, I would also like to see your facts on the amount of men who are abused rather then you just pulling them out of your ass.bean-with-bacon

Why do you think I make these things up?? Have you ever searched for "domestic abuse against men" on google?? Have you ever seen the facts??
Have you ever heard the stories men tell about how they are abused and no one does anything about it??

Have you ever heard of someone called kelly bensimon?? She punched her boy friend in the face, and no one in the media talked about it.
When Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, thats all everyone was talking about it.

Just search for abuse against men on google and you will see the facts.

You seem to be ignoring the social stigma issue I brought up, the sexism against men stems from the sexism against women, also the burden of proof is on you, provide me with some links.

Rihanna got a lot of media attention because it would sell more, no man wants to admit they got beaten up by a women, and Rihanna is hot, men get all angry when someone beats up their sexual idol, because again, they think women need protecting. Not to mention most people hate Chris Brown.

Just search on google for abuse against men, why do I have to go and find all the links to all the facts??
Theres many websites that show the facts, and they are quite easy to find.

No man wants to admit they got beat up by a women? Why?? I would admit it if I got beat up by a women, and hopefully the cops would believe me.
Yeah I guess it doesn't matter when a women beats up a man hey?? She just busted the guys face opened but no one seems to care about that.

What if some nice guy got killed by a good looking women, would everyone just forgive the women and think it was the mans fault?? I think thats happened before by the way.

Everyone is discriminated against at some point in their life. It isnt specific to any one race or sex.

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

First of all not all men are large and strong. I know lots of men do weight more then women, but not all men do. There are lots of strong women and even if some of them are small, they can still beat someone up pretty good. Most women can beat up a man, I know most women could probably beat me up if I didn't defend my self.

Why isn't there a need for shelters?? Where are men supposed to go if they are in a abusive relationship?? Where are men supposed to go if a women is trying to kill them??
I didn't even know a lot about prostate cancer until a few months ago because I researched it. I knew about breast cancer years ago before I ever researched it.

Women do have acceptance in all fields, and I do actually see more women working then men these days.

joshrocks2245

Sorry but your personal experiences are pretty much irrelevant and should not be considered a representation of the issues at hand, provide some statistical data to back up your points.

If men are getting beaten up by women they should go to the police, it's a crime you know :roll:

If you did not know of prostate cancer then that is a problem with your health education, you also seem to be ignoring the fact that breast is usually far more deadly then prostate cancer (not to mention it can occur in men too)

Again your personal experiences are irrelevant and it is naive and ignorant to think women are held in the same regard in all work fields.

Dude just search on google for abuse against men and you will see all the statistical data and proof.

Yeah they do go to the police but the police don't always believe the men, thats been proved to.
Just watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks It's of people reacting to a women beating up a man in public.
Do you see anything wrong happening in that video or no??

Well I have been taught about breast cancer but not prostate cancer, if I never researched it I never would have known to get checked out someday.

Well most of them do work in the same fields, so I am not ignorant because I see it.
My personal experinces are irrelevant?? What am I not a man or something?? My experinces are relevant.

I have already refuted that video, it presents a case of a hot small women being the recipient of a cold and malicious attack by a larger and overbearing man (he was standing above in a position of power). The second case is an overly emotional outburst of flailing limbs by a women who is at the same level (both sitting down) and roughly the same size, passerby's would have regarded as a temporary emotional outburst. That is two very different cases, the makers of this video would have done that on purpose to lend credence their case, if they had presented an ugly larger overbearing women coldly and maliciously attacking a smaller cute man the result would have been the same and someone would have intervened.

Your personal experiences are irrelevant because you are presenting them in a manner as though they represent the population as a whole, they do not and you could easily be making them up, again you are ignorant to think men and women are regarded equally in all fields of work.

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]

Sorry but your personal experiences are pretty much irrelevant and should not be considered a representation of the issues at hand, provide some statistical data to back up your points.

If men are getting beaten up by women they should go to the police, it's a crime you know :roll:

If you did not know of prostate cancer then that is a problem with your health education, you also seem to be ignoring the fact that breast is usually far more deadly then prostate cancer (not to mention it can occur in men too)

Again your personal experiences are irrelevant and it is naive and ignorant to think women are held in the same regard in all work fields.

bean-with-bacon

Dude just search on google for abuse against men and you will see all the statistical data and proof.

Yeah they do go to the police but the police don't always believe the men, thats been proved to.
Just watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks It's of people reacting to a women beating up a man in public.
Do you see anything wrong happening in that video or no??

Well I have been taught about breast cancer but not prostate cancer, if I never researched it I never would have known to get checked out someday.

Well most of them do work in the same fields, so I am not ignorant because I see it.
My personal experinces are irrelevant?? What am I not a man or something?? My experinces are relevant.

I have already refuted that video, it presents a case of a hot small women being the recipient of a cold and malicious attack by a larger and overbearing man (he was standing above in a position of power). The second case is an overly emotional outburst of flailing limbs by a women who is at the same level (both sitting down) and roughly the same size, passerby's would have regarded as a temporary emotional outburst. That is two very different cases, the makers of this video would have done that on purpose to lend credence their case, if they had presented an ugly larger overbearing women coldly and maliciously attacking a smaller cute man the result would have been the same and someone would have intervened.

Your personal experiences are irrelevant because you are presenting them in a manner as though they represent the population as a whole, they do not and you could easily be making them up, again you are ignorant to think men and women are regarded equally in all fields of work.

Dude who cares if the women is hot??? The man is being abused!!!!
If you are being abused by a women who looks good, would you just take it???
So whenever a man is beating a women that means he is evil and he is going to kill her??

But when a women beats a man all it means is shes just a little mad and she doesn't deserve to go to jail?? Wow.
This is why women never get sent to jail for abusing men, people think women can't harm men.

What about a skinny guy who is being beaten up by a large female?? Should people stop to help the guy then??
What if she is punching him in the face and he is bleeding and crying for help??

Yeah but many guys have had similar experinces to mine.
Yeah of course I make everything up :roll:

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

Why do you think I make these things up?? Have you ever searched for "domestic abuse against men" on google?? Have you ever seen the facts??
Have you ever heard the stories men tell about how they are abused and no one does anything about it??

Have you ever heard of someone called kelly bensimon?? She punched her boy friend in the face, and no one in the media talked about it.
When Chris Brown beat up Rihanna, thats all everyone was talking about it.

Just search for abuse against men on google and you will see the facts.

joshrocks2245

You seem to be ignoring the social stigma issue I brought up, the sexism against men stems from the sexism against women, also the burden of proof is on you, provide me with some links.

Rihanna got a lot of media attention because it would sell more, no man wants to admit they got beaten up by a women, and Rihanna is hot, men get all angry when someone beats up their sexual idol, because again, they think women need protecting. Not to mention most people hate Chris Brown.

Just search on google for abuse against men, why do I have to go and find all the links to all the facts??
Theres many websites that show the facts, and they are quite easy to find.

No man wants to admit they got beat up by a women? Why?? I would admit it if I got beat up by a women, and hopefully the cops would believe me.
Yeah I guess it doesn't matter when a women beats up a man hey?? She just busted the guys face opened but no one seems to care about that.

What if some nice guy got killed by a good looking women, would everyone just forgive the women and think it was the mans fault?? I think thats happened before by the way.

You have to find the links because you are the one who is trying to prove the point to us, the burden of proof is on you, I'm not going to do the work for you.

If you would report the case then great, you have not been influenced by social stigma regarding men being beat up by women, not all men are like you and still hold very sexist views about women.

I never said it does not matter when women beat up men, it is just as horrible as men beating up women, please stop putting words in my mouth, the simple fact is it does not happen as often and when it does it either goes unreported (again social stigma) or the women does not cause as much damage, or it does not get media attention because the story would not sell to men, because they tend to only care when women get beat up because they feel women need protecting.

If some nice guy got killed, (very different to abuse btw) by a hot woman then the story would get lots of attention because it is a murder. No doubt the media would portray the women as using sexual charms to seduce the man then kill him.

[QUOTE="bean-with-bacon"]

[QUOTE="joshrocks2245"]

Dude just search on google for abuse against men and you will see all the statistical data and proof.

Yeah they do go to the police but the police don't always believe the men, thats been proved to.
Just watch this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LlFAd4YdQks It's of people reacting to a women beating up a man in public.
Do you see anything wrong happening in that video or no??

Well I have been taught about breast cancer but not prostate cancer, if I never researched it I never would have known to get checked out someday.

Well most of them do work in the same fields, so I am not ignorant because I see it.
My personal experinces are irrelevant?? What am I not a man or something?? My experinces are relevant.

joshrocks2245

I have already refuted that video, it presents a case of a hot small women being the recipient of a cold and malicious attack by a larger and overbearing man (he was standing above in a position of power). The second case is an overly emotional outburst of flailing limbs by a women who is at the same level (both sitting down) and roughly the same size, passerby's would have regarded as a temporary emotional outburst. That is two very different cases, the makers of this video would have done that on purpose to lend credence their case, if they had presented an ugly larger overbearing women coldly and maliciously attacking a smaller cute man the result would have been the same and someone would have intervened.

Your personal experiences are irrelevant because you are presenting them in a manner as though they represent the population as a whole, they do not and you could easily be making them up, again you are ignorant to think men and women are regarded equally in all fields of work.

Dude who cares if the women is hot??? The man is being abused!!!!
If you are being abused by a women who looks good, would you just take it???
So whenever a man is beating a women that means he is evil and he is going to kill her??

But when a women beats a man all it means is shes just a little mad and she doesn't deserve to go to jail?? Wow.
This is why women never get sent to jail for abusing men, people think women can't harm men.

What about a skinny guy who is being beaten up by a large female?? Should people stop to help the guy then??
What if she is punching him in the face and he is bleeding and crying for help??

Yeah but many guys have had similar experinces to mine.
Yeah of course I make everything up :roll:

You are misinterpreting my point, it matters because she's hot because more people are likely to step in because they regard hot women more highly then ugly ones, ever notice how in the media when a women is kill/murdered or abused they mention she is attractive/beautiful etc to garner more sympathy?

Again you are putting words in my mouth, I said the attacks were presented very differently to lend credibility to their cause, re read my post, if you still cannot see that that is your problem.

What about a skinny guy who is being beaten up by a large female?? Should people stop to help the guy then??
What if she is punching him in the face and he is bleeding and crying for help??

Again re read my post, I present exactly that point and said someone would have likely intervened, there are a lot more issues regarding these cases then just plain old sexism against men, you fail to take into account the all the social stigmas and the mentalities and the media response regarding abuse against men and women.

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You seem to be ignoring the social stigma issue I brought up, the sexism against men stems from the sexism against women, also the burden of proof is on you, provide me with some links.

Rihanna got a lot of media attention because it would sell more, no man wants to admit they got beaten up by a women, and Rihanna is hot, men get all angry when someone beats up their sexual idol, because again, they think women need protecting. Not to mention most people hate Chris Brown.

bean-with-bacon

Just search on google for abuse against men, why do I have to go and find all the links to all the facts??
Theres many websites that show the facts, and they are quite easy to find.

No man wants to admit they got beat up by a women? Why?? I would admit it if I got beat up by a women, and hopefully the cops would believe me.
Yeah I guess it doesn't matter when a women beats up a man hey?? She just busted the guys face opened but no one seems to care about that.

What if some nice guy got killed by a good looking women, would everyone just forgive the women and think it was the mans fault?? I think thats happened before by the way.

You have to find the links because you are the one who is trying to prove the point to us, the burden of proof is on you, I'm not going to do the work for you.

If you would report the case then great, you have not been influenced by social stigma regarding men being beat up by women, not all men are like you and still hold very sexist views about women.

I never said it does not matter when women beat up men, it is just as horrible as men beating up women, please stop putting words in my mouth, the simple fact is it does not happen as often and when it does it either goes unreported (again social stigma) or the women does not cause as much damage, or it does not get media attention because the story would not sell to men, because they tend to only care when women get beat up because they feel women need protecting.

If some nice guy got killed, (very different to abuse btw) by a hot woman then the story would get lots of attention because it is a murder. No doubt the media would portray the women as using sexual charms to seduce the man then kill him.

Yeah but theres tons of links showing on google how many men are abused by women every year. Theres tons.

Yeah thats what I hate, women and men both need protecting. They only think women need protecting though. It's sad that men don't report it when they get abused, and many police officers just don't believe that women can abuse men, it's sad but true.

I've heard stories about good looking women who have killed men before, and it doesn't get lots of attention and I sometimes hear about the women only getting like 10 years in prison.

There was a story I heard a while ago of someone called Lorena Bobbitt, she said her ex husband abused her and raped her, but there wasn't any proof I don't think. Even if there was proof, it was still wrong what she did.
She castrated her ex husband, and you know what?? She was found not guilty due to insanity. So she almost killed her ex husband, but she was found not guilty.
The feminists actually think she is a hero because of what she did.

How does that make her a hero because she castrated her ex husband?? If someone raped me and I beat up that person, I would probably be sent to prison for abuse and the person who raped me would probably get away with it.

I miss the days when women was like our property

999realthings

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Just search on google for abuse against men, why do I have to go and find all the links to all the facts??
Theres many websites that show the facts, and they are quite easy to find.

No man wants to admit they got beat up by a women? Why?? I would admit it if I got beat up by a women, and hopefully the cops would believe me.
Yeah I guess it doesn't matter when a women beats up a man hey?? She just busted the guys face opened but no one seems to care about that.

What if some nice guy got killed by a good looking women, would everyone just forgive the women and think it was the mans fault?? I think thats happened before by the way.

joshrocks2245

You have to find the links because you are the one who is trying to prove the point to us, the burden of proof is on you, I'm not going to do the work for you.

If you would report the case then great, you have not been influenced by social stigma regarding men being beat up by women, not all men are like you and still hold very sexist views about women.

I never said it does not matter when women beat up men, it is just as horrible as men beating up women, please stop putting words in my mouth, the simple fact is it does not happen as often and when it does it either goes unreported (again social stigma) or the women does not cause as much damage, or it does not get media attention because the story would not sell to men, because they tend to only care when women get beat up because they feel women need protecting.

If some nice guy got killed, (very different to abuse btw) by a hot woman then the story would get lots of attention because it is a murder. No doubt the media would portray the women as using sexual charms to seduce the man then kill him.

Yeah but theres tons of links showing on google how many men are abused by women every year. Theres tons.

Yeah thats what I hate, women and men both need protecting. They only think women need protecting though. It's sad that men don't report it when they get abused, and many police officers just don't believe that women can abuse men, it's sad but true.

I've heard stories about good looking women who have killed men before, and it doesn't get lots of attention and I sometimes hear about the women only getting like 10 years in prison.

There was a story I heard a while ago of someone called Lorena Bobbitt, she said her ex husband abused her and raped her, but there wasn't any proof I don't think. Even if there was proof, it was still wrong what she did.
She castrated her ex husband, and you know what?? She was found not guilty due to insanity. So she almost killed her ex husband, but she was found not guilty.
The feminists actually think she is a hero because of what she did.

How does that make her a hero because she castrated her ex husband?? If someone raped me and I beat up that person, I would probably be sent to prison for abuse and the person who raped me would probably get away with it.

Ever consider she went insane because of her husband's constant abuse? What she did was in no means right and she should not be considered a hero but insane people do not get sent to prison, that is why she did not go to prison, if a women murdered and tortured while being in a sane state of mind then she would have gone to prison for the same length of time as a man.

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You have to find the links because you are the one who is trying to prove the point to us, the burden of proof is on you, I'm not going to do the work for you.

If you would report the case then great, you have not been influenced by social stigma regarding men being beat up by women, not all men are like you and still hold very sexist views about women.

I never said it does not matter when women beat up men, it is just as horrible as men beating up women, please stop putting words in my mouth, the simple fact is it does not happen as often and when it does it either goes unreported (again social stigma) or the women does not cause as much damage, or it does not get media attention because the story would not sell to men, because they tend to only care when women get beat up because they feel women need protecting.

If some nice guy got killed, (very different to abuse btw) by a hot woman then the story would get lots of attention because it is a murder. No doubt the media would portray the women as using sexual charms to seduce the man then kill him.

bean-with-bacon

Yeah but theres tons of links showing on google how many men are abused by women every year. Theres tons.

Yeah thats what I hate, women and men both need protecting. They only think women need protecting though. It's sad that men don't report it when they get abused, and many police officers just don't believe that women can abuse men, it's sad but true.

I've heard stories about good looking women who have killed men before, and it doesn't get lots of attention and I sometimes hear about the women only getting like 10 years in prison.

There was a story I heard a while ago of someone called Lorena Bobbitt, she said her ex husband abused her and raped her, but there wasn't any proof I don't think. Even if there was proof, it was still wrong what she did.
She castrated her ex husband, and you know what?? She was found not guilty due to insanity. So she almost killed her ex husband, but she was found not guilty.
The feminists actually think she is a hero because of what she did.

How does that make her a hero because she castrated her ex husband?? If someone raped me and I beat up that person, I would probably be sent to prison for abuse and the person who raped me would probably get away with it.

Ever consider she went insane because of her husband's constant abuse? What she did was in no means right and she should not be considered a hero but insane people do not get sent to prison, that is why she did not go to prison, if a women murdered and tortured while being in a sane state of mind then she would have gone to prison for the same length of time as a man.

How do you know she went insane because of that reason?? Is there proof?
Can you show me any proof that some women have been sent to jail for murdering their husbands? I honestly haven't heard that happen that many times.

Yes, but so are women in different ways. The biggest way men are discriminated against imo would be divorce cases. If a couple divorces, then it's pretty much the man's fault no matter what. And you're sort of right about a woman cheating. But it's usually the man's fault whom she cheated with. But women are still the victims of sex jokes and the like.GamerForca

Yeah court is where the real discrimination happens here.

In regards to the divorce stuff, I think I should mention I have an uncle who was cheated on by his wife which caused the end of the relationship. He had always had the job while she just stayed home and played housewife.

So what happens? SHE gets custody and HE has to pay her child support. If he wants to see his kids more then he has to pay more.

Where it's really the worst though definitely has to be sex cases. Women do not get **** if they commit rape. A guy claims to have been raped and not only does he get made fun of but nothing gets done about it.

I'll never forget that case a while back in the news about that female teacher who was on her THIRD TIME of being convicted of statutory with one of her students. She got what, a couple months for her THIRD CONVICTION? Any guy would have gotten much more than that for their FIRST let alone THIRD conviction. Hell, there was that kid in Georgia who got 10 years I believe for recieving oral from a 17 year old girl when he was 18. But no the 30 or so teacher sleeping with her teenage students and sending them erotic pics is no biggie...

^^ I agree with you, I think men can be discriminated against woman quite a lot.