[QUOTE="Tolwan"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="Tolwan"] [QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]I don't mean to seem sexist as there are many, many women that will always be smarter, and overall just better than me, and I have no control over that. But life experiences has taught me that women are generally not as intelligent as men. Women excel at other things that men cannot compete with (like child-bearing *wink*Marisa), and men excel at things women can't compete with (like car mechanics). I'm not trying to change your mind about male vs. female intelligence, as that is impossible, but to shed light on my point-of-view and opinions. That is the whole reason for these forums._Marisa_
You are comparing physical abilities to mental abilities. Men are not physically capable of birthing a child, while, on the other hand, women are very capable and can be very good at car mechanics. Your argument has just completely defeated itself. There is no reason for anybody to any longer prove anything because you have just proved it by that paragraph. Statistics and personal opinion have no bearing on this argument what so ever. Genetics and biology majors are who needs to step in here. I can only quote what i've learned in the few college courses i've taken on the subject matter. Statistics are meaningless, no matter the subject area. Entire populations and nations are subject to wide scale exceptions based on the gender biss and affirmative action, job available and training available, support groups and funding availability, etc. etc.
What does matter, are the real facts - Do men have a genetic disposition to be smarter and more capable in area's of complex thought. We know men are genetically stronger (On the average, normal males, prime age, no steroid use). We know our genetics are different between the two genders. Is the male brain different? Different how? Are we capable of processing mathematics and science faster or more accurately (or both) than women can? Or vice versa?
At this point one can only hypothesize. Perhaps, being the warriors, men are predisposed to be smarter. Humans can not fight off pure brawns especially in the past. small scale tactics and strategy ruled the day, which require a high degree of intelligence and forming a chain of command which could later evolve into a polticial structure (and possibly why the majority of governments in history started off under male control). Of course, this could be completely false. I'm tempted to research this matter further...
Actually, in most species, the women are the hunters of food and the ones with the tactics to kill. Take lions for example, the male stays at the lair while the woman goes out to hunt for food and kill.
MotherSuperior's example of his bad experiences and trying to use that as backing for his argument that men are smarter than women is just plain silly.
Example: Suppose there is a female who comes across men with only very small genitals, would it be fair then for her to say that biologically, it's likely that all men have small genitals? Absolutely not. We arent talking about other species though. We're talking about humans. And male's are the warrior and hunter gender for the human species. Our genetics are different than that of lions. and thus the point is moot.
Ah, but why? Due to social reasons?
Just because society says it's normal for a man to work and provide, to be a police officer, to fix cars etc, does not mean it's instinctual. But that's how it's been along our latest evolutionary path. Back before tecnology, we were limited to our wits and bones. Back then, what worked was what was used. Survival of the fittest. Males hunted and led packs because they were the ones capable of doing it. Were females, they would have been the lead hunters. They werent. It was survival of the fittest back then. These patterns simply followed us into our social behaviors as we progressed technologically, but they are no less valid, theoretically.
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