Are Men smarter than Women?

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]And I'm not only counting my opinions on the matter. My brother, father, biology professor, ex-girlfriend, both sisters, and some of my friends (both male and female) all agree that men are generally smarter than women. It's just facts, nothing sexist about it. It's not like either gender could survive without the other.trodeback

You better wake up. The world you live in is just a sugar-coated topping! There is another world beneath it - the real world.

The opinions of your family and friends don't constitute what's reality. The only reason there are so many male scientists & major names in science and other related "smart" fields is becuase women were discouraged to persue education degrees. His point with the doll & the lego was to portray the very well known fact that many women are enouraged from birth to become mothers, and many men are encouraged from birth to persue an education, make a name for themselves, and provide for a family. There are many smart women that aren't known about who had to publish works in their husbands name or in a fake name in order to have them published. One thing I must ask is does your mother or any of your sisters have 4 year college degrees?

That scenario was quite some time ago. Men were generally viewed as the sole breadwinner of the family and women to take care of the family.

Nowadys, both men and women are given equal opportunity for education. And ironic as it may seem, women usual make up the most of first class honours graduate. I'm not going to say that women are smarter than men. BUT they use their potential much, much more than we men, and thus, they're smarter.

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]As stated, not only am I considering my experiences. This thread is a case of selective reading at its best._Marisa_

Why don't the opinion of my family count? That doesn't make sense. My mother has 2 years of college (which is decent, considering her time), my sister is a genetics professor at UNCC, and my other sister is just starting college.MotherSuperior

Seems to me that the basis for your understanding that men are smarter then women is based on how many smart men you know. You can't compare something like that because like I said the only reason why there isn't an equal amount is becuase women were and still are (slightly) discouraged from persuing education. The part about your parents opinions. I respect the opinion of my parents but that does not mean that they are the sole voice of opposition from what is fact. I've attended college for two years now persuing a degree in Biology and the women out number the men in most of my classes. Half of all my professors are women, and most of the students getting the better grades in class are women. The opinions of your family, although highly favorable, shouldn't constitute what's fact. When you go to a class at college do you contradict what the professor says by saying that "My dad said so"? Of course not. And the fact that your sister is a Genetics professor furthers everyone's point in that women are just as smart as men.

[QUOTE="trodeback"]

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]And I'm not only counting my opinions on the matter. My brother, father, biology professor, ex-girlfriend, both sisters, and some of my friends (both male and female) all agree that men are generally smarter than women. It's just facts, nothing sexist about it. It's not like either gender could survive without the other.MotherSuperior

You better wake up. The world you live in is just a sugar-coated topping! There is another world beneath it - the real world.

The opinions of your family and friends don't constitute what's reality. The only reason there are so many male scientists & major names in science and other related "smart" fields is becuase women were discouraged to persue education degrees. His point with the doll & the lego was to portray the very well known fact that many women are enouraged from birth to become mothers, and many men are encouraged from birth to persue an education, make a name for themselves, and provide for a family. There are many smart women that aren't known about who had to publish works in their husbands name or in a fake name in order to have them published. One thing I must ask is does your mother or any of your sisters have 4 year college degrees?

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="trodeback"]

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]And I'm not only counting my opinions on the matter. My brother, father, biology professor, ex-girlfriend, both sisters, and some of my friends (both male and female) all agree that men are generally smarter than women. It's just facts, nothing sexist about it. It's not like either gender could survive without the other.gobo212

You better wake up. The world you live in is just a sugar-coated topping! There is another world beneath it - the real world.

The opinions of your family and friends don't constitute what's reality. The only reason there are so many male scientists & major names in science and other related "smart" fields is becuase women were discouraged to persue education degrees. His point with the doll & the lego was to portray the very well known fact that many women are enouraged from birth to become mothers, and many men are encouraged from birth to persue an education, make a name for themselves, and provide for a family. There are many smart women that aren't known about who had to publish works in their husbands name or in a fake name in order to have them published. One thing I must ask is does your mother or any of your sisters have 4 year college degrees?

You should just stop while your way, way behind.

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]But that's how it's been along our latest evolutionary path. Back before tecnology, we were limited to our wits and bones. Back then, what worked was what was used. Survival of the fittest. Males hunted and led packs because they were the ones capable of doing it. Were females, they would have been the lead hunters. They werent. It was survival of the fittest back then. These patterns simply followed us into our social behaviors as we progressed technologically, but they are no less valid, theoretically._Marisa_

Intelligence however is not required to procreate. Procreation is one of the simplest acts humans perform, believe it or not. Birthing is painful, but requires no intelligence to perform. Women dont need to know how to run a chain of command, organize or strategize, simply run of instinctual behavior to nurture. Remember, back then, women would nurture, but not necessarily raise. Men would often follow a more tribal pattern of taking the male child out on his first hunt and learning the ways of the warrior. While females were more ackin to follow in the mothers footsteps.

Tell me, if men are smarter than women, why is it that Pearl and I have managed to give reason after reason as to why you're "theory" (if you can even call it that) is ridiculous due to lack of evidence and all you can provide is "My mommy said so"? If anything, you have just proved the opposite of your point by your actions alone and are giving men a bad name. _Marisa_

The whole argument feels like a child in denial of Santa Clause not being real because his mom told him otherwise.

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]As stated, not only am I considering my experiences. This thread is a case of selective reading at its best.MotherSuperior

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="trodeback"]

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]And I'm not only counting my opinions on the matter. My brother, father, biology professor, ex-girlfriend, both sisters, and some of my friends (both male and female) all agree that men are generally smarter than women. It's just facts, nothing sexist about it. It's not like either gender could survive without the other._Marisa_

You better wake up. The world you live in is just a sugar-coated topping! There is another world beneath it - the real world.

The opinions of your family and friends don't constitute what's reality. The only reason there are so many male scientists & major names in science and other related "smart" fields is becuase women were discouraged to persue education degrees. His point with the doll & the lego was to portray the very well known fact that many women are enouraged from birth to become mothers, and many men are encouraged from birth to persue an education, make a name for themselves, and provide for a family. There are many smart women that aren't known about who had to publish works in their husbands name or in a fake name in order to have them published. One thing I must ask is does your mother or any of your sisters have 4 year college degrees?

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]But that's how it's been along our latest evolutionary path. Back before tecnology, we were limited to our wits and bones. Back then, what worked was what was used. Survival of the fittest. Males hunted and led packs because they were the ones capable of doing it. Were females, they would have been the lead hunters. They werent. It was survival of the fittest back then. These patterns simply followed us into our social behaviors as we progressed technologically, but they are no less valid, theoretically.Tolwan

Intelligence however is not required to procreate. Procreation is one of the simplest acts humans perform, believe it or not. Birthing is painful, but requires no intelligence to perform. Women dont need to know how to run a chain of command, organize or strategize, simply run of instinctual behavior to nurture. Remember, back then, women would nurture, but not necessarily raise. Men would often follow a more tribal pattern of taking the male child out on his first hunt and learning the ways of the warrior. While females were more ackin to follow in the mothers footsteps.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Actually, I believe it is vice-versa on average. That is why populations at most major universities leans towards the female side.

Men get the brawn and the women get the brains.
Tolwan

The only reason a higher amount of women are getting into universities, is because of special treatment. All the equal rights crap and women's rights groups have literally forced hundreds of women into positions men better deserve. Yeah, i said it.

Men are better at some things than women. Unfortuanatly, we live in a world where Woman are arrogant enough to think otherwise, and some men are becoming ignorant enough to believe them. God bless our modern world.

*Walks out of thread with flame shield and M1 Abrams escort*

Wow, I was reading these posts thinking 'Well, men and women are pretty equal, some women are better than men but some men are better than women' but then I read this poor excuse for an opinion.

Women are not arrogant, for centuries men have been the arrogant ones, repressing women...not allowing them to vote because they think they are better than women. Even now there is still a huge pay-gap between men and women of equal skill, doing the same job.

I received no special treatment to get into university (to do a degree in I.T. after getting A-Levels in Biology, Chemistry and I.T.) because I am a girl. I got the grades I needed to get in and I work hard...and now I definately think I'm smarter than you.

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]As stated, not only am I considering my experiences. This thread is a case of selective reading at its best._Marisa_

Somebody asked what the educational history of my family was, so I gave it. That doesn't mean their opinions are more or less true or accepted. I never said it did. Your cheap shots obviously have no effect so it is OK to eliminate them from your posts as they are no use.MotherSuperior

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="Tolwan"]But that's how it's been along our latest evolutionary path. Back before tecnology, we were limited to our wits and bones. Back then, what worked was what was used. Survival of the fittest. Males hunted and led packs because they were the ones capable of doing it. Were females, they would have been the lead hunters. They werent. It was survival of the fittest back then. These patterns simply followed us into our social behaviors as we progressed technologically, but they are no less valid, theoretically._Marisa_

Intelligence however is not required to procreate. Procreation is one of the simplest acts humans perform, believe it or not. Birthing is painful, but requires no intelligence to perform. Women dont need to know how to run a chain of command, organize or strategize, simply run of instinctual behavior to nurture. Remember, back then, women would nurture, but not necessarily raise. Men would often follow a more tribal pattern of taking the male child out on his first hunt and learning the ways of the warrior. While females were more ackin to follow in the mothers footsteps.

I'm not saying women are dumb. I'm contrasting the level of intelligence required between the hunter/gatherer/warrior/leader cast and the birther/nurturer/carer cast. Each gender did what they were good at, again survival of the fittest. Women would give birth, and nurture their children. They have great ability determing the need of a child and protecting it. However, when it would come to leadership, combat, or war, these things were carried on by the males. The men would also take great part in raising other male children, especially in concerns to leadership and combat.

[QUOTE="Tolwan"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Actually, I believe it is vice-versa on average. That is why populations at most major universities leans towards the female side.

Men get the brawn and the women get the brains.
zoe256

The only reason a higher amount of women are getting into universities, is because of special treatment. All the equal rights crap and women's rights groups have literally forced hundreds of women into positions men better deserve. Yeah, i said it.

Men are better at some things than women. Unfortuanatly, we live in a world where Woman are arrogant enough to think otherwise, and some men are becoming ignorant enough to believe them. God bless our modern world.

*Walks out of thread with flame shield and M1 Abrams escort*

Wow, I was reading these posts thinking 'Well, men and women are pretty equal, some women are better than men but some men are better than women' but then I read this poor excuse for an opinion.

Women are not arrogant, for centuries men have been the arrogant ones, repressing women...not allowing them to vote because they think they are better than women. Even now there is still a huge pay-gap between men and women of equal skill, doing the same job.

I received no special treatment to get into university (to do a degree in I.T. after getting A-Levels in Biology, Chemistry and I.T.) because I am a girl. I got the grades I needed to get in and I work hard...and now I definately think I'm smarter than you.

im not taking the persons side of who you are upset about, but seriously the past is just that, the past, everyone should just move past it and live, and ill agree with you that women excell in some thigns and men excell in some things, but i dont think its possible that some women use there looks to there advantage today still

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Somebody asked what the educational history of my family was, so I gave it. That doesn't mean their opinions are more or less true or accepted. I never said it did. Your cheap shots obviously have no effect so it is OK to eliminate them from your posts as they are no use._Marisa_

http://www.livescience.com/health/060908_brainy_men.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/09/07/3075.aspx http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=f8cf9b7e-2903-4759-bdc4-f93963688eba&k=13310 I'm sure that professor wouldn't laugh in my face.MotherSuperior

Uhh I just read two of these articles and found contradicting points in both of them:

In one article there was a large section talking about the flaws in the study

"

But he questions the team's conclusions. "I believe that the differences probably lie in the variables they hadn't considered," Bracken said.

One plausible explanation is that more females than males decide to go to college and thus take the SAT test. The study did in fact include about 10,000 more females than males."

Another:

"Dr Summers, who has apologised repeatedly for his remarks, said later that the shortage of senior female academics was partly caused by child-minding duties, which restricted working hours."

Yet again the same appeal to the idea that the reason that men are smarter then women is because there are more men that hold academic achievements. Which isn't very logica, considering that if more women had persued educational degrees throughout history we'd see more of them holding scientific achievements.

Please read your links before googling a bunch of BS and using it as a weak argument.

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"] http://www.livescience.com/health/060908_brainy_men.html http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/09/07/3075.aspx http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=f8cf9b7e-2903-4759-bdc4-f93963688eba&k=13310 I'm sure that professor wouldn't laugh in my face.trodeback

Uhh I just read two of these articles and found contradicting points in both of them:

In one article there was a large section talking about the flaws in the study

"

But he questions the team's conclusions. "I believe that the differences probably lie in the variables they hadn't considered," Bracken said.

One plausible explanation is that more females than males decide to go to college and thus take the SAT test. The study did in fact include about 10,000 more females than males."

Another:

"Dr Summers, who has apologised repeatedly for his remarks, said later that the shortage of senior female academics was partly caused by child-minding duties, which restricted working hours."

Yet again the same appeal to the idea that the reason that men are smarter then women is because there are more men that hold academic achievements. Which isn't very logica, considering that if more women had persued educational degrees throughout history we'd see more of them holding scientific achievements.

Please read your links before googling a bunch of BS and using it as a weak argument.

Skipping all the anecdotal arguments about "My family believes...", "My family says...".

I do believe that Men are more intelligent than Women (before I'm called out as being sexist, I'll explain).

The reason being is that the ambition and drive in a man is far less than that of women. Part of it could be due to the "Oppression" that was against women having equal rights to men, and in effect, women have risen to the challenge on many occasions purely to show that they can do something just as well as a man, or are as intelligent as their male counterparts. They had the ambition to prove themselves. Men however, did not have to prove themselves to get further in life...it became an accepted standard that men would be accepted over women.

That is the problem with making the statement that one gender is more intelligent than the other. It has nothing to do with the academic ability of the individual genders. The statistics has more to do with the dominant stance that we as males take, believing in being superior over women purely based on history. This has given rise to laxity in regards to males and their academics. Thus, women appear to be more intelligent in the modern age.

I can't back it up with much more than anecdotes. However, when I started University last year, around 50% were female and 50% were male. We all obviously had the intelligence to get to the level we had reached, we all shared the common grounds of "Being Intelligent" and we all "Wanted" to be in the course that we were in. The differences came throughout the year, with the habits of learning, the habits of studying, and the rates that people dropped out.

I found that more males tended to relax a little more than females (there were outliers on each side, IE, I wasn't a great studier, but I was top 30%). Thus the study habits of the males were not only more lax than the females, but the drop out rates also showed a correlation that it was the males that were not performing as well. Was it based on intelligence? Not likely, since we all had to be intelligent to get there. It was based on ambition and drive. More Females have a more innate passion to go further and prove themselves not only to themselves, but everyone else because of their supposed "Gender disadvantage". There are less men who have that same drive.

My 10c worth.

Fine, you want "proof" from the internet? http://www.livescience.com/health/060908_brainy_men.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/09/07/3075.aspx http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=f8cf9b7e-2903-4759-bdc4-f93963688eba&k=13310 I'm sure that professor wouldn't laugh in my face.MotherSuperior

While Rushton called his results significant, he doesn't think they are a basis for uprooting the field of education.

"I don't think it has any real implications for education policy or schoolwork," he said. "In fact, females actually get better grades than males."





http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770
This link is the same exact as the first one. I'm guessing you didn't even bother to read your own "proof"





http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm
"Earlier this year, the president of Harvard University, Lawrence Summers, sparked controversy when he suggested at a seminar that one reason men outperformed women in maths and science was genetics.

Several guests walked out of the conference after hearing the comments.

Dr Summers, who has apologised repeatedly for his remarks, said later that the shortage of senior female academics was partly caused by child-minding duties, which restricted working hours."




http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/09/07/3075.aspx
Once again, same link as the first one




http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=f8cf9b7e-2903-4759-bdc4-f93963688eba&k=13310
And again, the same story just in different words of your first link



So, basically we have 4 of the same links and one where the scientist admits and apologizes at his claim of "genetics"


Had enough yet? Next time, try reading your own proof before you present it.

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Fine, you want "proof" from the internet? http://www.livescience.com/health/060908_brainy_men.html

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/09/07/3075.aspx http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=f8cf9b7e-2903-4759-bdc4-f93963688eba&k=13310 I'm sure that professor wouldn't laugh in my face._Marisa_

While Rushton called his results significant, he doesn't think they are a basis for uprooting the field of education.

"I don't think it has any real implications for education policy or schoolwork," he said. "In fact, females actually get better grades than males."



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=405056&in_page_id=1770

This link is the same exact as the first one. I'm guessing you didn't even bother to read your own "proof"



http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/4183166.stm

"Earlier this year, the president of Harvard University, Lawrence Summers, sparked controversy when he suggested at a seminar that one reason men outperformed women in maths and science was genetics.

Several guests walked out of the conference after hearing the comments.

Dr Summers, who has apologised repeatedly for his remarks, said later that the shortage of senior female academics was partly caused by child-minding duties, which restricted working hours."


http://cosmiclog.msnbc.msn.com/archive/2006/09/07/3075.aspx


Once again, same link as the first one


http://www.canada.com/topics/news/world/story.html?id=f8cf9b7e-2903-4759-bdc4-f93963688eba&k=13310

And again, the same story just in different words of your first link



So, basically we have 4 of the same links and one where the scientist admits and apologizes at his claim of "genetics" due to his personal life.



Had enough yet? Next time, try reading your own proof before you present it.

No, I didn't even bother to read my own "proof" because I already knew you were going to copy/paste things to counter what I had typed. Do you want me to go on google and copy/paste arguments against your post or can we agree that this will never end?MotherSuperior

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, I didn't even bother to read my own "proof" because I already knew you were going to copy/paste things to counter what I had typed. Do you want me to go on google and copy/paste arguments against your post or can we agree that this will never end?_Marisa_

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, I didn't even bother to read my own "proof" because I already knew you were going to copy/paste things to counter what I had typed. Do you want me to go on google and copy/paste arguments against your post or can we agree that this will never end?MotherSuperior

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, I didn't even bother to read my own "proof" because I already knew you were going to copy/paste things to counter what I had typed. Do you want me to go on google and copy/paste arguments against your post or can we agree that this will never end?_Marisa_

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, I didn't even bother to read my own "proof" because I already knew you were going to copy/paste things to counter what I had typed. Do you want me to go on google and copy/paste arguments against your post or can we agree that this will never end?MotherSuperior

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]No, I didn't even bother to read my own "proof" because I already knew you were going to copy/paste things to counter what I had typed. Do you want me to go on google and copy/paste arguments against your post or can we agree that this will never end?_Marisa_

Experiments were conducted and results were given. You keep saying I lost this debate yet return with another post and continue on with it. You want other proof but then you don't, I've lost the debate and yet you return. Make up your mind.MotherSuperior

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Experiments were conducted and results were given. You keep saying I lost this debate yet return with another post and continue on with it. You want other proof but then you don't, I've lost the debate and yet you return. Make up your mind._Marisa_

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Experiments were conducted and results were given. You keep saying I lost this debate yet return with another post and continue on with it. You want other proof but then you don't, I've lost the debate and yet you return. Make up your mind.MotherSuperior

[QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Experiments were conducted and results were given. You keep saying I lost this debate yet return with another post and continue on with it. You want other proof but then you don't, I've lost the debate and yet you return. Make up your mind._Marisa_

[QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"][QUOTE="_Marisa_"][QUOTE="MotherSuperior"]Experiments were conducted and results were given. You keep saying I lost this debate yet return with another post and continue on with it. You want other proof but then you don't, I've lost the debate and yet you return. Make up your mind.MotherSuperior

Sure is a heated argument.

Slow down there, we still don't have a real understanding of what intelligence/smartness is. If that is still contested there is no way we can answer this question yet.

For one to even possibly begin to answer that question, one must first understand what the defintion of "smart" is? To this day, that very defintion of that word is still very much in debate, and far from being over. For example, the debate of IQ test versus the theory of multiple intelligences would be good example of that point.

I think the deal is that women tend to excell in English & Writing while men tend to excell in Math & Science. trodeback

There appears to be more male scientists, but that is only if you look at history, where women generally were not able to be scientists due to social reasons. That has affected the modern day as well, considering that it's easier for guys to relate to the writing of other guys and get into it a little easier. That being said, many current teaching methods give females an easier time by changing around the courses and letting them have an easier time to relate to it. It has nothing to do with intelligence., it just has to do with how interesting a subject is to an individual.

Random fact: the first computer programmer was female. Lady Ada.

it's a known fact that most men think more rationally though.rowzzr

If by known fact you mean stereotype then yes your right.

For one to even possibly begin to answer that question, one must first understand what the defintion of "smart" is? To this day, that very defintion of that word is still very much in debate, and far from being over. For example, the debate of IQ test versus the theory of multiple intelligences would be good example of that point.

Link256

The ironic thing is most of the multiple inteligence tests are just as flawed as the IQ test.

I doubt we'll ever find an accurate way to measure inteligence though. It's too broad a thing.

I like how women say in history of humans, Man had it so much easier.

Just think of EVERY SINGLE WAR. Guess what BILLIONS of MEN dying. Most probably in their 20s

Women (in the past) all they had to do was mind the children or mind the house. While the Man worked his ass off.

Now this is not offensive. That is what happened (and still to a much lesser degree) still happens a bit today.

ALSO, I realise minding the kids is freaking hard, and doing all the housework. But trying to provide for a family in a job where you get bugger all pay in my opinion is much harder

Men and Lady's are equal in interlect but in different ways

A girl is more capable of figuring out a 2D puzzle than boys are. But boys are better at figuring out 3D puzzles than girls are.

So really, both are more clever than each other in different ways. Now, if you said "who would survive the longest if I threw a male and female into the desert?" answer would be female cause that's mother nature.

I think the deal is that women tend to excell in English & Writing while men tend to excell in Math & Science. trodeback

I like how women say in history of humans, Man had it so much easier.

Just think of EVERY SINGLE WAR. Guess what BILLIONS of MEN dying. Most probably in their 20s

Women (in the past) all they had to do was mind the children or mind the house. While the Man worked his ass off.

Now this is not offensive. That is what happened (and still to a much lesser degree) still happens a bit today.

ALSO, I realise minding the kids is freaking hard, and doing all the housework. But trying to provide for a family in a job where you get bugger all pay in my opinion is much harder

PerilousWolf

Incorrect.

Too lazy to point out why though.