Are Men smarter than Women?

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#151 PerilousWolf
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I like how women say in history of humans, Man had it so much easier.

Just think of EVERY SINGLE WAR. Guess what BILLIONS of MEN dying. Most probably in their 20s

Women (in the past) all they had to do was mind the children or mind the house. While the Man worked his ass off.

Now this is not offensive. That is what happened (and still to a much lesser degree) still happens a bit today.

ALSO, I realise minding the kids is freaking hard, and doing all the housework. But trying to provide for a family in a job where you get bugger all pay in my opinion is much harder

Foolz3h

Incorrect.

Too lazy to point out why though.

Of course its massively incorrect. Its full of generalisations.

I was merely stating that, Women who I discuss History with seem to forget the fact that in NEARLY every war the MAJORITY of the people who had to DIE were the MEN

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#152 gobo212
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I like how women say in history of humans, Man had it so much easier.

Just think of EVERY SINGLE WAR. Guess what BILLIONS of MEN dying. Most probably in their 20s

Women (in the past) all they had to do was mind the children or mind the house. While the Man worked his ass off.

Now this is not offensive. That is what happened (and still to a much lesser degree) still happens a bit today.

ALSO, I realise minding the kids is freaking hard, and doing all the housework. But trying to provide for a family in a job where you get bugger all pay in my opinion is much harder

PerilousWolf

This actually IS offensive. And billions of people have never died in any war.

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#153 Link256
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it's a known fact that most men think more rationally though.rowzzr

For the record, rationality is only one of many possible ways of judging intelligence. There is also absration, problem solving, planning, creativity, personality, character, knowledge and wisdom, among other things.

Also, while we are on the subject of rationality, where is your source for which you have claimed?

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#154 PerilousWolf
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This actually IS offensive. And billions of people have never died in any war.

gobo212

Think of the entire history of the Human Race. Every single conflict - Every death in those conflicts. That has got to be alot.

Tell me why it is offensive as well please

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#155 marterikster
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I believe men have more potential,but Smarter...usually not:)
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#156 redfield_137
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Nobody really knows what intelligence is and therefore any tools currently used to measure it (e.g. IQ tests) are flawed. So I'll go with, no, men are not smarter than women. However, due to gender roles, females and males display varying levels of mental ability in different areas. In some areas women seem to excel compared to men and vice-versa.
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#157 gobo212
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[QUOTE="gobo212"]

This actually IS offensive. And billions of people have never died in any war.

PerilousWolf

Think of the entire history of the Human Race. Every single conflict - Every death in those conflicts. That has got to be alot.

Tell me why it is offensive as well please

It's offensive becuase you say it like all women wanted to do throughout history is raise children when in fact that's all they were allowed to do by a male dominated society.

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#158 TheSaiyajin
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A lot of studies have shown that women are indeed smarter than men, however a recent study done in europe (recent as like 3 years ago) has shown that while overall women have a higher IQ then men, the chances of a woman being a genius are pretty small (5-6 % ) and that of a woman inventor are also quite small ( roughly 14%), it is believed that this is mainly because of their education (a girl is satisfied if she has A's in all her classes, while a boy doesn't care if he flunks some as long as he is an olimpic in one field). Also, while women scored higher than men overall, out of the best 20 scores only 3 belonged to women (the 5th the 10th and the 11th).

So it all depends on how you look at things, saying that men are smarter is just as right as saying that women are.

I am quoting this out of a magazine that is released in my university (the senior year took part in the test), if i can find a version in english i'll add a link

PS: i study robotics and while there is a girl in my university with better grades than me, i have never seen her come up with something original in any way, but she can learn hundreds of pages by heart and that helps her in the exams. In the end however i am certain that i will make a better engineer than her. (that's a personal example that i have)

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#159 PerilousWolf
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[QUOTE="PerilousWolf"][QUOTE="gobo212"]

This actually IS offensive. And billions of people have never died in any war.

gobo212

Think of the entire history of the Human Race. Every single conflict - Every death in those conflicts. That has got to be alot.

Tell me why it is offensive as well please

It's offensive becuase you say it like all women wanted to do throughout history is raise children when in fact that's all they were allowed to do by a male dominated society.

Woah woah woah.

I never said thats what they WANTED to do. What women wanted was equal rights, and its appauling it took so long to get anywhere near that. But I was stating my opinion. That providing for the family (eg Working and being forced to be away from the family) WOULD PROBABLY be harder than caring for the kids and doing the housework. This of course does not apply all the time, as alot of the time Women had to work twice as hard at home than the men, but I was just stating my opinion.

I thought you were offended by the fact I though billion of men have died in wars, which I though was a fair assesment

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#160 gobo212
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[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="PerilousWolf"][QUOTE="gobo212"]

This actually IS offensive. And billions of people have never died in any war.

PerilousWolf

Think of the entire history of the Human Race. Every single conflict - Every death in those conflicts. That has got to be alot.

Tell me why it is offensive as well please

It's offensive becuase you say it like all women wanted to do throughout history is raise children when in fact that's all they were allowed to do by a male dominated society.

Woah woah woah.

I never said thats what they WANTED to do. What women wanted was equal rights, and its appauling it took so long to get anywhere near that. But I was stating my opinion. That providing for the family (eg Working and being forced to be away from the family) WOULD PROBABLY be harder than caring for the kids and doing the housework. This of course does not apply all the time, as alot of the time Women had to work twice as hard at home than the men, but I was just stating my opinion.

I thought you were offended by the fact I though billion of men have died in wars, which I though was a fair assesment

No I was offended because it sounded like you were being sexist.

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#161 PerilousWolf
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Yeah now that a read my first post it does sound sexist. But I assure you, I am very far from it. I hate descrimination of any kind.

I also might add I was not linking Working harder to being smarter.

On topic I would say it obviously depends on the people you are comparing

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#162 big_boy_down23
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Yes. Yes they are
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#163 gobo212
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Yes. Yes they arebig_boy_down23

No, no they are not.

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#164 jasperrussell
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it's a known fact that most men think more rationally though.rowzzr

rationally as in..... woah did you see those boobs, oh sorry what we we talking about, ah yes men's ability to think rationally.

or maybe, "Are you lookin' at my girl! Right *biff!*"

maybe you meant another word which describes the difference of men's thinking to women's. Can't think of it myself, but then Women have a better grasp of language, which one theory believes is what makes us self-aware unlike the animals. But that's a bit of the chicken and egg thing, did language come first, or intelligence and then langua.... woah there's those boobs again!

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#165 nintendo_fan675
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Actually, I believe it is vice-versa on average. That is why populations at most major universities leans towards the female side.

Men get the brawn and the women get the brains.
foxhound_fox
What ever happened to both. :x
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#166 jasperrussell
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[QUOTE="Foolz3h"][QUOTE="PerilousWolf"]

I like how women say in history of humans, Man had it so much easier.

Just think of EVERY SINGLE WAR. Guess what BILLIONS of MEN dying. Most probably in their 20s

Women (in the past) all they had to do was mind the children or mind the house. While the Man worked his ass off.

Now this is not offensive. That is what happened (and still to a much lesser degree) still happens a bit today.

ALSO, I realise minding the kids is freaking hard, and doing all the housework. But trying to provide for a family in a job where you get bugger all pay in my opinion is much harder

PerilousWolf

Incorrect.

Too lazy to point out why though.

Of course its massively incorrect. Its full of generalisations.

I was merely stating that, Women who I discuss History with seem to forget the fact that in NEARLY every war the MAJORITY of the people who had to DIE were the MEN

yeah but it's men that start the wars, so it's all fair and balances out.

hey never underestimate the difficulty of looking after kids, it's not just making them sandwiches, they scream, they throw things, they kick, they scream more, it's emotionally draining, then you clean, cook, do laundry, do shopping (with the screaming kids), then get belittled by the man in your life when he gets home. AND YOUR GETTING PAID TO AVOID ALL THIS!

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#167 smiggy4000
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Non sexist reply
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#168 Zaeryn
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I find most girls to be smarter than guys at my age.
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#169 Foolz3h
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[QUOTE="gobo212"][QUOTE="PerilousWolf"][QUOTE="gobo212"]

This actually IS offensive. And billions of people have never died in any war.

PerilousWolf

Think of the entire history of the Human Race. Every single conflict - Every death in those conflicts. That has got to be alot.

Tell me why it is offensive as well please

It's offensive becuase you say it like all women wanted to do throughout history is raise children when in fact that's all they were allowed to do by a male dominated society.

Woah woah woah.

I never said thats what they WANTED to do. What women wanted was equal rights, and its appauling it took so long to get anywhere near that. But I was stating my opinion. That providing for the family (eg Working and being forced to be away from the family) WOULD PROBABLY be harder than caring for the kids and doing the housework. This of course does not apply all the time, as alot of the time Women had to work twice as hard at home than the men, but I was just stating my opinion.

I thought you were offended by the fact I though billion of men have died in wars, which I though was a fair assesment

Which is compeltely incorrect. Ask any parent and they'lll tell you raising a child si the HARDEST job in the world and there's absolutely no resbite from it. The sterotype is that the man has ahard job works frm 9-5 then goes home and rests. While the woman works the entire day. And that includes physically work (especially in the part) most likely just as strenous as whatever the hell the man was doing.

Add to the fact that women DID work in the past and their jobs were most often some of the worst around. Same with children.

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#170 Alter_Echo
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A man has invented pretty much everything worth inventing. I guess thats proof enough.
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#171 deactivated-612079a2c3358
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Who cares? It all comes down to the individual anyway.
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#172 foxhound_fox
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The only reason a higher amount of women are getting into universities, is because of special treatment. All the equal rights crap and women's rights groups have literally forced hundreds of women into positions men better deserve. Yeah, i said it.

Men are better at some things than women. Unfortuanatly, we live in a world where Woman are arrogant enough to think otherwise, and some men are becoming ignorant enough to believe them. God bless our modern world.

*Walks out of thread with flame shield and M1 Abrams escort*

Tolwan

Special treatment? Since when? Many men still think women shouldn't even vote or leave the kitchen. Women have to work their asses of to get into university, even more so considering some men still treat them like inferiors.

A man has invented pretty much everything worth inventing. I guess thats proof enough. Alter_Echo

If woman wasn't so busy raising man's children then I bet they could have easily have come up with all the same ideas.
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#173 ShuLordLiuPei
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According to "The neuroanatomy of general intelligence: sex matters", men have more gray matter. 'Structural Brain Variation and General Intelligence' says men have 6 times the amount of gray matter compared to women, and women have 10 times the amount of white matter compared to men. Studies have shown that larger amounts of gray matter in brain correlates to higher intelligence.

Male brains are about 10% larger than female brains. While size doesn't matter when comparing two different species, it does matter when comparing two humans. Larger brain size generally equals higher intelligence.

Males generally score 3 to 5 points higher on IQ tests compared females, as well.

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#174 CIoud_S
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Of course we are, and we can pee standing up. Superioir Beings FTW! :roll:
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#175 Etherninty
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As a man working in a scientific field where we are pretty much equal in numbers, I prefer to work with women.

In general they are equal in the skills and smarter for the "social" part.

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#176 Video_Game_King
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Depends. I've met girls that are just as smart as me, and I'm pretty damn smart. Not here, though, too many smart people level me down to average on Internet scale. And there are/have been many female scientists. Ever hear of Marie Curie?
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#177 Tolwan
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[QUOTE="Tolwan"]The only reason a higher amount of women are getting into universities, is because of special treatment. All the equal rights crap and women's rights groups have literally forced hundreds of women into positions men better deserve. Yeah, i said it.

Men are better at some things than women. Unfortuanatly, we live in a world where Woman are arrogant enough to think otherwise, and some men are becoming ignorant enough to believe them. God bless our modern world.

*Walks out of thread with flame shield and M1 Abrams escort*

foxhound_fox


Special treatment? Since when? Many men still think women shouldn't even vote or leave the kitchen. Women have to work their asses of to get into university, even more so considering some men still treat them like inferiors.

A man has invented pretty much everything worth inventing. I guess thats proof enough. Alter_Echo

If woman wasn't so busy raising man's children then I bet they could have easily have come up with all the same ideas.

Wow you really do live in a fantasy land don't you. I don't know about the rest of the world, but in the United States there are femanists organizations and women promotional groups and all those other equal rights groups which have been giving educational funding, pushing for Quota's in colleges,and jobs, (Both for minorities and women), etc. etc. This is the 21'st century, you can't pull that "But life's so hard" crap anymore. Maybe for those in poverty stricken regions, but that's true for all gender's and races.

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You know what this thread makes me realize. I want humanity to die out in violent conflict. Statistics mean nothing. You assume all men are operating at their peak. There are statistics that say blacks are dumber than whites. Doesn't mean its true. Just means that their are social reasons behind it not genetic ones.

I HOPE AIDS GETS AIRBORNE AND WE ALL DIEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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According to "The neuroanatomy of general intelligence: sex matters", men have more gray matter. 'Structural Brain Variation and General Intelligence' says men have 6 times the amount of gray matter compared to women, and women have 10 times the amount of white matter compared to men. Studies have shown that larger amounts of gray matter in brain correlates to higher intelligence.

Male brains are about 10% larger than female brains. While size doesn't matter when comparing two different species, it does matter when comparing two humans. Larger brain size generally equals higher intelligence.

Males generally score 3 to 5 points higher on IQ tests compared females, as well.

ShuLordLiuPei

In the past, I worked with what some people would call "genius" and some were total dumbass for the social side. They did'nt even have basic social skills such as trying to be friendly and respectful with others. They were dumb people(now I say this but I WAS very friendly and respectful with them, unlike them). Intelligence doesn't necessary go with a high IQ as proven in those cases.

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#180 Tolwan
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[QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"]

According to "The neuroanatomy of general intelligence: sex matters", men have more gray matter. 'Structural Brain Variation and General Intelligence' says men have 6 times the amount of gray matter compared to women, and women have 10 times the amount of white matter compared to men. Studies have shown that larger amounts of gray matter in brain correlates to higher intelligence.

Male brains are about 10% larger than female brains. While size doesn't matter when comparing two different species, it does matter when comparing two humans. Larger brain size generally equals higher intelligence.

Males generally score 3 to 5 points higher on IQ tests compared females, as well.

Etherninty

In the past, I worked with what some people would call "genius" and some were total dumbass for the social side. They did'nt even have basic social skills such as trying to be friendly and respectful with others. I hated these dumb people. Intelligence doesn't necessary go with a high IQ as proven in those cases.

Social Skills have little to do with intelligence. "social skills" essentially means how good you are at relating with other people. However, most geniuses have an intellect far greater and thus it is harder for them to communicate to normal people.

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#181 Etherninty
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[QUOTE="Etherninty"][QUOTE="ShuLordLiuPei"]

According to "The neuroanatomy of general intelligence: sex matters", men have more gray matter. 'Structural Brain Variation and General Intelligence' says men have 6 times the amount of gray matter compared to women, and women have 10 times the amount of white matter compared to men. Studies have shown that larger amounts of gray matter in brain correlates to higher intelligence.

Male brains are about 10% larger than female brains. While size doesn't matter when comparing two different species, it does matter when comparing two humans. Larger brain size generally equals higher intelligence.

Males generally score 3 to 5 points higher on IQ tests compared females, as well.

Tolwan

In the past, I worked with what some people would call "genius" and some were total dumbass for the social side. They did'nt even have basic social skills such as trying to be friendly and respectful with others. I hated these dumb people. Intelligence doesn't necessary go with a high IQ as proven in those cases.

Social Skills have little to do with intelligence. "social skills" essentially means how good you are at relating with other people. However, most geniuses have an intellect far greater and thus it is harder for them to communicate to normal people.



IMO, anyone who "hurt" badly other people are not intelligent people, no matter how great their IQ is.

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#182 peppersfan2
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Who cares? It all comes down to the individual anyway.Salvy41

Truer words never spoken my friend.

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I won't breastfeed you, if that's what you're asking.
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#184 SOedipus
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Yes they are.
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#185 DarCowAlways
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Actually, I believe it is vice-versa on average. That is why populations at most major universities leans towards the female side.

Men get the brawn and the women get the brains.
foxhound_fox

Just a thought here, but just maybe the women will say women are smarter and the men will say men are smarter.

In my experience, women can be... Oh don't get me started about how much better they say they say they are! :evil:

I'm not saying men are smarter than women *cough* *cough* *scratches nose* *winks eye* :P

Sorry I have a scratch in my throat...

But I think men and women are both snobs about how much smarter/better they are than the other. Drives me crazy.

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other way around dude, women secretly control everything
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#187 DarCowAlways
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Actually, I believe it is vice-versa on average. That is why populations at most major universities leans towards the female side.

Men get the brawn and the women get the brains.
foxhound_fox

Actually, you're calling God a brawny idiot. If girls are so much better, why isn't God a girl? :P

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#188 SOedipus
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[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"]Actually, I believe it is vice-versa on average. That is why populations at most major universities leans towards the female side.

Men get the brawn and the women get the brains.
DarCowAlways

Actually, you're calling God a brawny idiot. If girls are so much better, why isn't God a girl? :P

Maybe He is...I mean She.

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#189 killalln00bs
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I always thought women were smarter.
At least, at my school. Besides the preppy spoiled ones, that is.
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#190 ninjacat11
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Not really, no.
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#191 foxhound_fox
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Actually, you're calling God a brawny idiot. If girls are so much better, why isn't God a girl? :PDarCowAlways

God is genderless. It was the men who gave "Him" a gender. And if God was perfect, technically, He would be genderless.
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#192 Forerunner-117
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[QUOTE="trodeback"]I think the deal is that women tend to excell in English & Writing while men tend to excell in Math & Science. debusentel

That is statistically true. But to the TC depends what you mean by smarter. Women are by FAR better manipulator's then men. I could add more but I'll stop thier , lol.

Yeah but they've got the physical allure that greatly helps with the manipulating ;)

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#193 Video_Game_King
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[QUOTE="DarCowAlways"]Actually, you're calling God a brawny idiot. If girls are so much better, why isn't God a girl? :Pfoxhound_fox

God is genderless. It was the men who gave "Him" a gender. And if God was perfect, technically, He would be genderless.

Or maybe he'd be a hermaphrodite. Could go either way.

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#194 KHfanboy2
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Meh... I don't feel like doing stereotyping.

All ppl are created equal.

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#195 Lisaanne30
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Yea I agree lol, i know some women stupid men and women but also so some smart ones of both sexes too .

Meh... I don't feel like doing stereotyping.

All ppl are created equal.

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#196 darkmoney52
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What I've heard is that because of something to do with brain structure(lol, this is all just stuff I heard from some of my smarter friends, so please forgive any inaccuracies:D) women aren't less intelligent, but they do tend to think more with the emotional side of their brain than their logical side. I can't say for sure if that's true but my personal experience would support it.
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#197 pianist
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[QUOTE="_Marisa_"]No, they are not.Sandro909

Wow, what an informative and intelligent claim backed up by several compelling points. :|

Kind of like the OP and most of the other posters here, right?

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#198 flowerpedal
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i dont think they are...there are both men/women out there are as smart as wallpaper. It really varies...there hasnt been hard proof that any gender is smarter
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#200 daishi112
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Everyone thinks differently. The fact that there is more male scientists is because women weren't accepted as scientists, or even doctors in many states as much as men were, once their generation is finished though, things will change. It's also just coincidence. There are stupid men, stupid women, smart men, smart women, none more than the other it's simply not recognized fully.