Are Real Men A Dying Breed?

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]The west has been declining? You probably should have told someone sooner, this is the first I've heard of it. cheese_game619

the west is not declining! I WILL SKULL**** YOU!

....better?

black_chamber you're the furthest thing away from a real man that there is so you should really not talk.XilePrincess

Among ameriguns perhaps. Plenty of real men left in Europe as long as you don't look at France.

Real men draw their own god damn avatars.

list the characteristics of "real men" and then one can say if they're dying out or not BossPerson

That's easy. A real man has a great beard, hot wife and kicks his enemies into pits. In other words.

Among ameriguns perhaps. Plenty of real men left in Europe as long as you don't look at France.

N30F3N1X

That doesn't matter because French women are more than capable of defeating European men on the fields of battle. At least the English anyway :oops:

in a decade we will all be gone :(

define real man.  I consider myself a real man and am not a feminine guy by any means, but I don't care about most sports and such, does that make me not a real man?  If so, then screw being a real man :P.  

define real man.  I consider myself a real man and am not a feminine guy by any means, but I don't care about most sports and such, does that make me not a real man?  If so, then screw being a real man :P.  

NaveedLife

That last poll option...

If being a real man means I can't do the things I want, then I'd rather be fake.

sune_Gem

I weep for the future.

"men" like you will eventually be the downfall of the west

I weep for the future.

 

"men" like you will eventually be the downfall of the west

black_chamber99

Last I check it's pretty 50/50 when it comes to men and women. Sure there are more male to female transexuals than female to male transexuals, but real man or not dying, no idea where you came up with that idea 

Real men draw their own god damn avatars.

WiiCubeM1

That looks pretty good, man. Nice shading as well.

[spoiler] Initially wasn't going to bother replying, but thought the drawing was quite good. So anyway...

If watching pony doesn't make me a 'real man' in the eyes of some, then so be it. It's not like the opinions of others online mean shit to me anyway. [/spoiler]

I couldn't care less. I have my own life to lead, I'm not going to waste it trying to stick to society's definition of a real man or caring how somone thinks I should act.

I could care less. I have my own life to lead, I'm not going to waste it trying to stick to society's definition of a real man or caring how somone thinks I should act.

4nationfury

so edgy

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I could care less. I have my own life to lead, I'm not going to waste it trying to stick to society's definition of a real man or caring how somone thinks I should act.

lostrib

so edgy

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="4nationfury"]

I could care less. I have my own life to lead, I'm not going to waste it trying to stick to society's definition of a real man or caring how somone thinks I should act.

4nationfury

so edgy

oh man that's deep.  

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

so edgy

lostrib

oh man that's deep.  

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="4nationfury"] It's not being edgy, it's just shrugging off what people think while considering how I feel about myself. What is a real man or woman but a social ideal? The definition changes with the ages and as people change, many think back to the "good old days". I feel no need to conform to something so subjective, something that doesn't exist. If I tried to become a people pleaser, I'd compromise who I am by supressing and altering my identity and personality. I have no desire to live a life like that.

4nationfury

oh man that's deep.  

oh yes, if only i could live such a profound life :roll:

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="4nationfury"]

I could care less. I have my own life to lead, I'm not going to waste it trying to stick to society's definition of a real man or caring how somone thinks I should act.

4nationfury

so edgy

what a big man

In my view, a 'real man' is any man who is always humble and selfless and puts responsibility, civility and decorum first in all his dealings... a person who exudes strength of character and sets, through his own examples actions and deeds, a good, upright example for our youth... a person who is willing to defend, with his very life even, those who cannot defend themselves, never shirking from his responsibilities to his family, his community and his nation... so, yeah -- I guess its safe to say there aren't many 'real men' around anymore...67gt500

Yes, they are.  Real men have been painted as a bad thing by media.  You're much cooler now if you look and act like a sissy boy.  

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

so edgy

black_chamber99

what a big man

Yes, they are.  Real men have been painted as a bad thing by media.  You're much cooler now if you look and act like a sissy boy.  

hartsickdiscipl

I think the only thing that defines a 'real man' is a respectful person who can take care of themselves.

To be a real man, you have to be a good person, first and foremost. Treat people with respect. Be a good father, husband, and loyal friend. You have to be disciplined and always work hard and honor obligations. If you say you are going to do something, do it. No excuses. No quitting. You get it done.

 

You don't have to be a meat head to be a real man. In fact, a lot of those guys are insecure boys. Real men don't go around starting fights. But a real man isn't a coward, either. He also is man enough to walk away.

 

A real man doesn't let people walk over them. They have morals and principles that they follow. They will speak up and let it be known when they have a problem with something so that the problem can be solved.

 

And yes, real men seem to be a dying breed.

 

Somebody like Atticus Finch is a real man. And that is why people love that character.

BMD004

TBH, who gives a sh*t.

[QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Yes, they are.  Real men have been painted as a bad thing by media.  You're much cooler now if you look and act like a sissy boy.  

Ace6301

I don't think GoT, MGS, TLOU are really that mainstream

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Yes, they are.  Real men have been painted as a bad thing by media.  You're much cooler now if you look and act like a sissy boy.  

lostrib

I don't think GoT, MGS, TLOU are really that mainstream

MGS and TLOU may not be, but GoT absolutely is.

Does anybody have any example of "real men" being painted as a bad thing by the media? I'd love to see them.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"] I'm really not seeing this. [spoiler] [/spoiler] Some examples from very popular current media. Who exactly are you referring to? GreySeal9

I don't think GoT, MGS, TLOU are really that mainstream

MGS and TLOU may not be, but GoT absolutely is.

Does anybody have any example of "real men" being painted as a bad thing by the media? I'd love to see them.

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

I don't think GoT, MGS, TLOU are really that mainstream

lostrib

MGS and TLOU may not be, but GoT absolutely is.

Does anybody have any example of "real men" being painted as a bad thing by the media? I'd love to see them.

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

Examples?

Well if we're talking about men being dumb and shit in stuff like yoghurt ads, then yeah, but it's nothing to make a big deal about.

Well if we're talking about men being dumb and shit in stuff like yoghurt ads, then yeah, but it's nothing to make a big deal about.

applesxc47

Certain stereotypical traits of women are poked fun at as well.

[QUOTE="applesxc47"]

Well if we're talking about men being dumb and shit in stuff like yoghurt ads, then yeah, but it's nothing to make a big deal about.

GreySeal9

Certain stereotypical traits of women are poked fun at as well.

Well yeah, they're only stupid ads.

I'm agreeing with you, for the record :P

People with morals and spines in general are a dying breed.

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[QUOTE="applesxc47"]

Well if we're talking about men being dumb and shit in stuff like yoghurt ads, then yeah, but it's nothing to make a big deal about.

applesxc47

Certain stereotypical traits of women are poked fun at as well.

Well yeah, they're only stupid ads.

I'm agreeing with you, for the record :P

I don't think they are big deal either.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

MGS and TLOU may not be, but GoT absolutely is.

Does anybody have any example of "real men" being painted as a bad thing by the media? I'd love to see them.

GreySeal9

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

Examples?

make sure to make some spare time and grab some popcorn before you watch these. pretty lengthy (and this is just a fraction of whats happening in western media!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OdQGbVNa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHYPHf0PfE

6:39 to 7:01 of the second video encapsulates the current state of spineless western males

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

black_chamber99

Examples?

make sure to make some spare time and grab some popcorn before you watch these. pretty lengthy (and this is just a fraction of whats happening in western media!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OdQGbVNa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHYPHf0PfE

6:39 to 7:01 of the second video encapsulates the current state of spineless western males

I'm not sure what you think 6: 39 to 7: 01 is supposed to prove. 

As for the rest of the video, no way I'm watching all that. If there are a few specific things within them that you want to cite, I will comment.

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

black_chamber99

Examples?

make sure to make some spare time and grab some popcorn before you watch these. pretty lengthy (and this is just a fraction of whats happening in western media!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OdQGbVNa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHYPHf0PfE

6:39 to 7:01 of the second video encapsulates the current state of spineless western males

I don't think anyoe is actually going to watch that.

Not because it's overly long, or because it's boring, but because it's sort of dumb.

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

MGS and TLOU may not be, but GoT absolutely is.

Does anybody have any example of "real men" being painted as a bad thing by the media? I'd love to see them.

GreySeal9

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

Examples?

Women on "The Talk" laughing at a story where a man's penis was cut off and put in the garbage disposal.  One host stated, "its quite fabulous"

That this ad was allowed during the Supwerbowl, making light of domestic abuse against men and that it should be found humorous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7oYAygWOQ

in terms of "real men," the growing trend of women being the primary breadwinners in a hosehold

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[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

Examples?

applesxc47

make sure to make some spare time and grab some popcorn before you watch these. pretty lengthy (and this is just a fraction of whats happening in western media!)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y5OdQGbVNa4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPHYPHf0PfE

6:39 to 7:01 of the second video encapsulates the current state of spineless western males

I don't think anyoe is actually going to watch that.

Not because it's overly long, or because it's boring, but because it's sort of dumb.

From what I saw, it did look pretty dumb, but I will comment on specific examples.

Women on "The Talk" laughing at a story where a man's penis was cut off and put in the garbage disposal.  One host stated, "its quite fabulous"

That this ad was allowed during the Supwerbowl, making light of domestic abuse against men and that it should be found humorous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7oYAygWOQ

in terms of "real men," the growing trend of women being the primary breadwinners in a hosehold

lostrib

1. I would probably laugh at that.

2. I'd hardly call that domestic abuse.

3. Who cares?

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[QUOTE="lostrib"]

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

lostrib

Examples?

Women on "The Talk" laughing at a story where a man's penis was cut off and put in the garbage disposal.  One host stated, "its quite fabulous"

That this ad was allowed during the Supwerbowl, making light of domestic abuse against men and that it should be found humorous: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eX7oYAygWOQ

in terms of "real men," the growing trend of women being the primary breadwinners in a hosehold

I would have to see the clip of The Talk, but these are two examples and as I said, there are ads that make fun of women as well.

I fail to see how the growing trend of women become the primary breadwinners means that "real men" are dying out. Is there a logical reason why masculinity must be tied to becing the primary breadwinner of a household?

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

MGS and TLOU may not be, but GoT absolutely is.

Does anybody have any example of "real men" being painted as a bad thing by the media? I'd love to see them.

GreySeal9

it's not just real men, but putting men down in general or mocking them.  

Examples?

you ask for examples. I give you a half hour full of different examples in the media all spliced together for your convenience and you dismiss it completely because its 'dumb' lol

you're a f%king idiot

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="hartsickdiscipl"]

Yes, they are.  Real men have been painted as a bad thing by media.  You're much cooler now if you look and act like a sissy boy.  

lostrib

I don't think GoT, MGS, TLOU are really that mainstream