British police arrest 6 men for burning Quran

In the US we value you our freedom...we don't want a repressive government.LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] In the US we value you our freedom...we don't want a repressive government.Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] In the US we value you our freedom...we don't want a repressive government.Ninja-Hippo

[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Burning a book or calling someone a name isn't putting anyone's life at risk. People that riot over the act are. It's those people who overreact that should be arrested (if they physically harm someone).

If you know it will cause people to riot then you arrest the source of the problem, not the effect.

[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] In the US we value you our freedom...we don't want a repressive government.LJS9502_basic

I can't wait for this horrible law to be over-turned, which was only put in place in the first place because the Labour government wanted to win back some muslim votes after the Iraq war. The new government should get rid of it any week now. :) Ninja-Hippo

When you get rid of the terrorism act and such come back to me.

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[QUOTE="psychobrew"]

Burning a book or calling someone a name isn't putting anyone's life at risk. People that riot over the act are. It's those people who overreact that should be arrested (if they physically harm someone).

Stanley09

If you know it will cause people to riot then you arrest the source of the problem, not the effect.

Because you live in America. Even though everyone was against it, they could do nothing about it in the name of freedom. Though in the end they did try to exhaust ever legal outlet they could find to get around the whole freedom thing, but with no success.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Tell that to the Patriot Act. mattbbpl

No need to fear it if one is not a terrorist.LJS9502_basic

Unwarranted wire tapping is one that concerns me, but the more troubling issue I see is the ability to indefinitely detain individuals witthout any charges.mattbbpl

UK has that since 1990.. though I believe it's only two weeks.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Isn't this kind of a tom-a-toe/tom-ah-toe kind of thing? Both restrict rights and freedoms in the name of security.

mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] It expanded on already existing procedures.....and border security. Nothing too drastic. What do you find to be heinous?LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"] Unwarranted wire tapping is one that concerns me, but the more troubling issue I see is the ability to indefinitely detain individuals witthout any charges.mattbbpl

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Both of which would not apply to law abiding citizens......and FYI....there has always been unwarranted wire tapping anyway. However, it eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering. The difference is in the ability to monitor foreign communication. This has you concerned....why?

LJS9502_basic

Even when people are formally charged and tried, innocent people are found guilty and sentenced. Why would I put faith in something that makes it even more likely for innocent people to be held in prison?

And the Patriot Act removes the "during extraordinary times" part....

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"] You see no problem with skirting due process and jailing someone indefinitely without any charges? If innocent people don't have to worry about it, then why don't they simply charge the individuals, sentence them, and then hold them in prison for the duration of the sentence?

Even when people are formally charged and tried, innocent people are found guilty and sentenced. Why would I put faith in something that makes it even more likely for innocent people to be held in prison?mattbbpl

And the Patriot Act removes the "during extraordinary times" part....

It's an appeasement measure, to try and tame the threat of British Muslims blowing up buses.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Both of which would not apply to law abiding citizens......and FYI....there has always been unwarranted wire tapping anyway. However, it eased restrictions on foreign intelligence gathering. The difference is in the ability to monitor foreign communication. This has you concerned....why?

LJS9502_basic

Even when people are formally charged and tried, innocent people are found guilty and sentenced. Why would I put faith in something that makes it even more likely for innocent people to be held in prison?

And those frame the darkest parts of our history.. We should not use this as a excuse to continue this what so ever.

It's an appeasement measure, to try and tame the threat of British Muslims blowing up buses.

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