[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]I didn't even understand why its in the DNC, its an aspect of a foreign policy aspect , doesn't seem like something that should be in a manifesto of a party. the 2nd part is, of course that I do not need the democratic party to tell me what my capital is, but thats a different matter. cuz isreal funds the political parties ... and half of them are jews. Gee does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out lol .to emphasize the point of 'deep throating' Israel. gonna share some Daily Show footage of the DNC.
found it both funny and sad really. but it's American politics so what u gonna do...
first video. which has to do with voting an amendment on the democratic platform.
then when you get done
watch the second. for Nancy Pelosi's response about it after it's all done.
Darkman2007
Canada: "Iran is a Terrorist State"
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well it isn't like Iran has like giant parades calling for the death of US and Israel... or Ahmedinijad talking about wiping Israel off the face, eleminating a member of UN.I find it ironic that people consider israel the victim, considering they've made the bulk of the threats and continue to assassinate Iranians.
htekemerald
but i do agree that it is silly when people pull the victim card game, especially when they are the regional military power.
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]I didn't even understand why its in the DNC, its an aspect of a foreign policy aspect , doesn't seem like something that should be in a manifesto of a party. the 2nd part is, of course that I do not need the democratic party to tell me what my capital is, but thats a different matter. cuz isreal funds the political parties ... and half of them are jews. Gee does not take a rocket scientist to figure it out lol . any more conspiracies about Jewish power? although frankly, I hope youre right, I mean who would not want to have influence in the world's biggest superpower.to emphasize the point of 'deep throating' Israel. gonna share some Daily Show footage of the DNC.
found it both funny and sad really. but it's American politics so what u gonna do...
first video. which has to do with voting an amendment on the democratic platform.
then when you get done
watch the second. for Nancy Pelosi's response about it after it's all done.
Allthishate
[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]I didn't even understand why its in the DNC, its an aspect of a foreign policy aspect , doesn't seem like something that should be in a manifesto of a party. the 2nd part is, of course that I do not need the democratic party to tell me what my capital is, but thats a different matter. it's the democratic parties weakness, they lack the backbone. both of the big parties are beholden to Israel's lobbying interest. To try to give an example of the political atmosphere, would be communism. from 1945-1992 who on Earth wanted to be the party that even LOOKED like it was soft on communism. it's the same for Israel but in the inverse, who wants to even LOOK like it would be even a modicum fair or tough on Israel. plus the Democratic party is not beholden to fulfilling religious prophecies. Which is why i found it funny how close the yay's and nay's were. in America that's the Republican's job. but it doesn't matter, so thy put it in, so that they match the Republicans. it's like... i dunno like we got no choice on the subject. weird.to emphasize the point of 'deep throating' Israel. gonna share some Daily Show footage of the DNC.
found it both funny and sad really. but it's American politics so what u gonna do...
first video. which has to do with voting an amendment on the democratic platform.
then when you get done
watch the second. for Nancy Pelosi's response about it after it's all done.
Darkman2007
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]. I didn't even understand why its in the DNC, its an aspect of a foreign policy aspect , doesn't seem like something that should be in a manifesto of a party. the 2nd part is, of course that I do not need the democratic party to tell me what my capital is, but thats a different matter. it's the democratic parties weakness, they lack the backbone. both of the big parties are beholden to Israel's lobbying interest. To try to give an example of the political atmosphere, would be communism. from 1945-1992 who on Earth wanted to be the party that even LOOKED like it was soft on communism. it's the same for Israel but in the inverse, who wants to even LOOK like it would be even a modicum fair or tough on Israel. plus the Democratic party is not beholden to fulfilling religious prophecies. Which is why i found it funny how close the yay's and nay's were. in America that's the Republican's job. but it doesn't matter, so thy put it in, so that they match the Republicans. it's like... i dunno like we got no choice on the subject. weird.to emphasize the point of 'deep throating' Israel. gonna share some Daily Show footage of the DNC.
found it both funny and sad really. but it's American politics so what u gonna do...
first video. which has to do with voting an amendment on the democratic platform.
then when you get done
watch the second. for Nancy Pelosi's response about it after it's all done.
SaudiFury
though given the fact Jews in the US overwhelmingly vote democrat, and their position in key states, it makes sense the party would cater to them in this way, it gains them political capital while they don't lose very much (I doubt anybody is not going to vote for them simply because of this issue) frankly this kind of decleration does more damage than it does good, I will never understand anyone who pushes for it. its also somewhat insulting, , and Im not sure why American Jews don't feel insulted by it too
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Allthishate"] never said jews i said isreal goverment plz cut the @%^ again. and isreal will hit iran first . dont act nieve again . Allthishateenough with the dishonesty (the kind you hear from the modern Jew haters of the world), youre blaming the Jews here and we both know it. you have every right to , of course, but a bit of honesty at least as for your 2nd comment , youre crazy, I never knew a single time where the US had to fight while we all sat in bunkers. though if you do get drafted, it might be a good learning experience for you, you could learn about the Middle East a bit , bring me back some Persian carpets after your army service is over :P blaming the jews no. blaming isreal yes and ad hawkish nature(just as bad as bush/chainy cowboy politics). like how american pilots where flying for isreal in the 6 day war /sigh. again u will tell u when u can come out of those bunkers :) .
American pilots in 67? more crazy theories from you? :P about as truthful as claiming Israel fought in Vietnam.
and yes, blaming Israel is blaming the Jews, in the same way as blaming the US means blaming americans, or blaming France means blaming the French , its really quite simply.
the only bunker Ive ever needed to go into was the safe room I had to go to in 1990 due to the US preventing Israel from retaliating against Iraqi scud missiles, so thanks for that btw.
Honestly, I hope Israel bombs Iran. Or at least fund some sort of uprising, anything to get the Iranian out of power. Once Iranian influence in the region dies down, the whole place can breathe a sigh of relief, and perhaps the Israeli-Palestinian issue can get back to center stage.
Frankly, anyone who isn't Israeli or Arab/Sunni can't really say much about how dangerous Iran is to the region.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Harper better not get us in another f*cking war. Wastes enough money on stupid crap as it is. He'll probably want to play with his new planes though.ShadowMoses900
I do not know enough about Steven Harpers policies to make an informed decison on him, I do not live in Canada. But if this is his decision then the man deserves a standing ovation, he is recognising the danger that is Iran and how important it is to protect Israel, who is the victim once again.
Here are just a few of the reasons the Canadian Government has listed as to why Iran can no longer be an ally:
Iran refuses to comply with the United Nations resolutions pertaining to its nuclear program
Increasing military assistance to the regime of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad
Iran shelters and "materially supports" terrorist groups
Routine threats to the existence of the state of Israel
Repeated violations of the Vienna Convention which governs diplomatic relations between most countries of the world
"Racist anti-Semitic rhetoric and incitement to genocide," Baird said.
Worst violators of human rights.
I want to avoid war as much as possible. But Iran better not even lift a finger against Israel.
Although I agree that Iran is not exactly a good guy. Israel ignores international law and human rights every day. Just sayin. As for the thread, Canada's late. I do think Iran is overly agresive towards the west, but it obivous that the real only reason that they are worried is that if Iran gets a nuclear arsenal, they would be the regional power. Dwarfing Israeli and western presence. That'd be bad for Saudia who would try desprately to get one aswell creating an arms race between the two most backwards countries in the region. Iran won't atttack Israel though Shadow. they aren't stupid please stop acting like a country as old and power hungry as Iran woulddo something so stupid. The US literally gave them Iraq. There'll be nothing stopping iraq from getting a nuclear weapon though, I laugh at the notion of a US invasion or Israeli strike. Had israel seriously wanted to attack Iran to stop the development of nuclear weapons, Israle would of done it by now. and not announced deadlines and allowed leaks about plans to attack. So please world if you're gonna talk the talk, walk the walk.
God told me Iran is a bad nation but Allah disagreed. I'm confused :?
the latter issue will never be solved if the Ayatollahs are not replaced, you know that part of the reason why there are still 2 Palestinian pseudo states is because Iran is funding Hamas . I will tell you though , there is constant talk in Israel of bombing Iran , most people do not want to do it, but Netanyahu seems to think its the best option, and there is this feeling that despite the US sayng otherwise, that it won't actually act. if you could read some Hebrew language newspapers and articles, you would see the political games he is playing to try and get support for it from both the average person and more importantly , the cabinet (in particular his security cabinet)Honestly, I hope Israel bombs Iran. Or at least fund some sort of uprising, anything to get Iran out of power. Once Iranian influence in the region dies down, the whole place can breathe a sigh of relief, and perhaps the Israeli-Palestinian issue can get back to center stage.
BossPerson
[QUOTE="BossPerson"]the latter issue will never be solved if the Ayatollahs are not replaced, you know that part of the reason why there are still 2 Palestinian pseudo states is because Iran is funding Hamas . I will tell you though , there is constant talk in Israel of bombing Iran , most people do not want to do it, but Netanyahu seems to think its the best option, and there is this feeling that despite the US sayng otherwise, that it won't actually act. if you could read some Hebrew language newspapers and articles, you would see the political games he is playing to try and get support for it from both the average person and more importantly , the cabinet (in particular his security cabinet)But there is also the lack of enthusiasm for this within the highest politicians in Israel now. I read an article eysterday where (Ehud Barak I think) said that Israel could not attack Iran without at least losing 500 civilians in a retaliatory attack by Iran et al.Honestly, I hope Israel bombs Iran. Or at least fund some sort of uprising, anything to get Iran out of power. Once Iranian influence in the region dies down, the whole place can breathe a sigh of relief, and perhaps the Israeli-Palestinian issue can get back to center stage.
Darkman2007
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="KingKinect"]I'd take Yahweh's word over a moon god. Seniority and all. moon god? WTF? Allah is Arabic for God, the same god as Yahweh. What's this moon god BS? for the record, Jews do not ever mention that name, its considerd too holy. when refering to God, Jews use terms like El (which is really a generic word for any God) , Elohim , Ha Kadosh Baruchu (the holy blessed one), Adonai (my master, or my lord) . in fact, Im not sure but I think its a sin to mention that name.God told me Iran is a bad nation but Allah disagreed. I'm confused :?
mayceV
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="KingKinect"]I'd take Yahweh's word over a moon god. Seniority and all. moon god? WTF? Allah is Arabic for God, the same god as Yahweh. What's this moon god BS?have funGod told me Iran is a bad nation but Allah disagreed. I'm confused :?
mayceV
Whatever the name of the term "Allah" I can assure you Muslims do not worship the moon.
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]the latter issue will never be solved if the Ayatollahs are not replaced, you know that part of the reason why there are still 2 Palestinian pseudo states is because Iran is funding Hamas . I will tell you though , there is constant talk in Israel of bombing Iran , most people do not want to do it, but Netanyahu seems to think its the best option, and there is this feeling that despite the US sayng otherwise, that it won't actually act. if you could read some Hebrew language newspapers and articles, you would see the political games he is playing to try and get support for it from both the average person and more importantly , the cabinet (in particular his security cabinet)But there is also the lack of enthusiasm for this within the highest politicians in Israel now. I read an article eysterday where (Ehud Barak I think) said that Israel could not attack Iran without at least losing 500 civilians in a retaliatory attack by Iran et al. Barak has been saying this for years , thats not new, but right now, he and Netanyahu are playing political games , where Barak thinks Israel should wait until after the US elections, while Netanyahu is silent on the subject. but youre right , there is a very divided opinion right now, hence why Netanyahu is doing all sorts of political moves to counter this, things like trying to convince one of the most influential Rabbis in the country to give his support for the attack (which would help get the support of the religious, Sephardic ones in particular) , or that coalition with Kadima that fell apart. what you have to remember about Netanyahu is that ideologically he was very much influenced by has father, are you aware of Ben Tzion Netanyahu's ideology?Honestly, I hope Israel bombs Iran. Or at least fund some sort of uprising, anything to get Iran out of power. Once Iranian influence in the region dies down, the whole place can breathe a sigh of relief, and perhaps the Israeli-Palestinian issue can get back to center stage.
BossPerson
[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="KingKinect"]I'd take Yahweh's word over a moon god. Seniority and all. u really still going on about the 'moon god' nonsense? Question: what is the start and end of Ramadan based on? Wait, don't tell me, the moon?God told me Iran is a bad nation but Allah disagreed. I'm confused :?
SaudiFury
the only ones that will attack Iran (if at all) and are capable of doing so , are Israel and the US, not Europe , Canada , Australia , or anybody else for that matter, Israel is a local military power, while the US has a global reach that no other country has.
Darkman2007
If the US military forces attack Iran, then the Canadian military forces could very well follow. The Canadian military is very capable, but it would be foolish for Canada to enter such a war alone.
[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]But there is also the lack of enthusiasm for this within the highest politicians in Israel now. I read an article eysterday where (Ehud Barak I think) said that Israel could not attack Iran without at least losing 500 civilians in a retaliatory attack by Iran et al. BossPersonBarak has been saying this for years , thats not new, but right now, he and Netanyahu are playing political games , where Barak thinks Israel should wait until after the US elections, while Netanyahu is silent on the subject. but youre right , there is a very divided opinion right now, hence why Netanyahu is doing all sorts of political moves to counter this, things like trying to convince one of the most influential Rabbis in the country to give his support for the attack (which would help get the support of the religious, Sephardic ones in particular) , or that coalition with Kadima that fell apart. what you have to remember about Netanyahu is that ideologically he was very much influenced by has father, are you aware of Ben Tzion Netanyahu's ideology? Well a quick google search reveals he's quite extreme. essentially he believed that hatred towards the Jews was always a racial one, even during the persecution of the Church (citing the fact that the Church also ended up going after Jewish converts), he also said the Holocaust was still ongoing, as there are still attempts to do so. I wouldn't say he was extreme so much as paranoid, and it did rub off on his son to some extent, he is paranoid, and any speech he makes regarding Iran usually tries to tie it to Nazi Germany. that said, there is no doubt Netanyahu is a very talented politician , a political fox so to speak (being in the political system in Israel for 20+ years will do that) he also hit Peres where it hurts a while ago , Peres spoke against attacking Iran (when really, a President in Israel is like the Queen in the UK , supposed to be non political) , and Netanyahu's office simply put out a message saying "Peres is not really the man to comment on threats and actions given his record in 1981" yeah , this kind of stuff is common in Israel .
[QUOTE="KingKinect"]I'd take Yahweh's word over a moon god. Seniority and all.God told me Iran is a bad nation but Allah disagreed. I'm confused :?
MrPraline
The sun god Ra agrees seniority should take precedence but someone invited Thor to the debate and he got them all drunk. This isn't going to end well. Allah really can't handle his booze.
[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="MrPraline"] lol, and he won't, because it's not something people like to talk about. It's way too safe to call Islam yet another Abrahamic religion, because that's socially acceptable. BossPersonReligions of the Abrahamic tradition are based on peace and love. Islam really is just a b*st*rdization of the previous two, although I strongly commend their beliefs in Jesus, Moses, etc. oh go f*ck yourself
Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see the degree to which each society has progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..
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