Canada: "Iran is a Terrorist State"

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#151 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"] BossPerson
Okay, let's assume both Christianity and Islam are equally as bad. The difference is, Christians don't follow those bad teachings. Muslims do. Simple as that...a religion is largely based on its followers...

So judging Christianity by the actions of the Vatican during their heydays is fair? fine.

I don't know why you're f*cking after me like a rabid dog. When any of your atheist buddies say something negative about Islam, you don't say anything. When I say something negative about Islam, you - literally - start attacking me. Most atheists here agree that Christianity is a better religion that Islam dude, like it or not. Part of me is wondering why I should be even talking to you, I might as well let all the atheists eat you to the bone.
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] It's a pun

lol, thank you

it's more of an insult, and it will be more of a distraction when your trying to make your point when being critical of Islam. what matters more to you, the message or the insult?
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#153 MrPraline
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] It's a pun

lol, thank you

it's more of an insult, and it will be more of a distraction when your trying to make your point when being critical of Islam. what matters more to you, the message or the insult?

The message.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"] wtf is an Islamb? They're called Muslims...chessmaster1989

here come the apologists..

I was asking a question smartass.

that has nothing to do with your question..you're an apologist, that's all i pointed out.
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] its hard to say, alot of them are keeping their opinions behined closed doors, and they have their own political considerations, though I would say that Netanyahu probably could order an attack , its not outside of his ability. an interesting scenario that shows what might happened ,was when Netanyahu wanted a settlement to be evicted a few months ago , and his cabinet and the Knesset was very divided, it ended up getting into these kinds of shouting matches www.youtube.com/watch?v=S3kOQRQWN8I eventually Netanyahu said that any minister who doesn't support him, will lose his job , most of them ended up going with him (including those who disagreed with him) , the rest mysteriously failed to show up to the cabinet meeting. the Iranian issue is more controversial , but I think he could pull off something like this, he is trying to galvenise support, he recently brought in a member of Kadima , Avi Dichter (former head of Shabak , Israel's internal security service, also deals with the WB and Gaza) into the government, and Dichter quickly said Iran is an exsistential threat and must be dealt with , though he never said how (dealt with , usually means attacking them in some ways)

So do you think netanyahu is prepared for a retaliatory attack? Because he seems quite reckless. There is no way some Israelis wont pay the price for an attack on Iran. Whether from Hamas or Iran's own arsenal.

actually I see a greater threat from Hezbollah than I do from Hamas, Hezbollah can do more damage, and unlike Hamas , they do not rule a country, and do not have to answer to anyone. as for Israel being prepered, I do not know, there has been alot of money put in by the army into missile defense (the so called, 3 tier system , with Iron dome and Chetz systems, and such), bomb shelters that are being renovated (albeit slowly) , the home front are doing excercises in clearing bodies and injured out of damaged areas , etc. at the same time, there was an article today which claimed that in one situation , Israel might face 170 thousand rockets www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4278119,00.html (there is map , which explains the situation very quickly) of course, this is only a worse case scenario , but its one of them there will be alot of damage no doubt, but the worry is that a nuclear Iran will result in more long term damage, one way or another.

So essentially Israel has to prepare for total war. That's quite a sticky situation you guys find yourselves in. It's like attacking a crocodile while your inside a swamp.
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#156 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"] BossPerson
Okay, let's assume both Christianity and Islam are equally as bad. The difference is, Christians don't follow those bad teachings. Muslims do. Simple as that...a religion is largely based on its followers...

So judging Christianity by the actions of the Vatican during their heydays is fair? fine.

Christianity today is a better religion than Islam today. Christianity in the past is a better religion than Islam in the past.

#Facts

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#157 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Okay, let's assume both Christianity and Islam are equally as bad. The difference is, Christians don't follow those bad teachings. Muslims do. Simple as that...a religion is largely based on its followers...

So judging Christianity by the actions of the Vatican during their heydays is fair? fine.

I don't know why you're f*cking after me like a rabid dog. When any of your atheist buddies say something negative about Islam, you don't say anything. When I say something negative about Islam, you - literally - start attacking me. Most atheists here agree that Christianity is a better religion that Islam dude, like it or not. Part of me is wondering why I should be even talking to you, I might as well let all the atheists eat you to the bone.

Because your points are sh*t, they don't even stand as an attack on Islam. And I know that you attack Islam thinking Christianity can withstand those attacks, whereas Atheists know that Christianity has many of its own problems.
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#158 KingKinect
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Many Christians do believe in gay rights" and stem cell research. And by the way, Christianity was not against black rights/women rights, it was backwards people..

kingkong0124

True and thats probably why religion is on the decline in the west. It seem pointless to me to believe in a god if you can't use it to justify your hatred of gays or keep women in the kitchen. Islam is growing faster than Christianity because it knows what the people want.

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#159 BossPerson
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Okay, let's assume both Christianity and Islam are equally as bad. The difference is, Christians don't follow those bad teachings. Muslims do. Simple as that...a religion is largely based on its followers...kingkong0124

So judging Christianity by the actions of the Vatican during their heydays is fair? fine.

Christianity today is a better religion that Islam today. Christianity in the past is a better religion that Islam in the past.

#Facts

Christianity in the past is a better religion that Islam in the past. ^ back that up.
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#160 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]So judging Christianity by the actions of the Vatican during their heydays is fair? fine. BossPerson

Christianity today is a better religion that Islam today. Christianity in the past is a better religion that Islam in the past.

#Facts

Christianity in the past is a better religion that Islam in the past. ^ back that up.

http://catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0110.html

read up dude.

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[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

here come the apologists..

kingkong0124

I was asking a question smartass.

that has nothing to do with your question..you're an apologist, that's all i pointed out.

Ok?

Also I've always wondered what do you think apologist means? I want to know so I can tell what you think you're calling me.

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[QUOTE="m25105"]What the hell, I thought Canada was one of the cool countries. Is this the case of the government of Canada not giving a hoot about what its own people wants? Iran is as much of a threat to Canada right now, then the bottle of water on my desk is.

I really doubt Canadians care about Iran.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Religions of the Abrahamic tradition are based on peace and love. Islam really is just a b*st*rdization of the previous two, although I strongly commend their beliefs in Jesus, Moses, etc. kingkong0124

oh go f*ck yourself

Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see the degree to which each society has progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..

They are absolutely not based upon religion. They are in spite of religion.

The two primary factors that are the bedrock of western legal/rights development are:

The ascendancy of Parliament over Kings, most exemplified by the Glorious Revolution,

The ascendancy of the Rule of Law which also took off after the Glorious Revolution and ultimately led to the US Constitution

Ironically the Glorious Revolution came to be in part because of religious in-fighting:lol:

The problem with a considerable part of the Islamic world has nothing to do with their religion, per se. It has everything to do with never throwing off the shackles of kings and despots and never allowing the Rule of Law to flourish. Our societies have effectively put religion into a box. Just as we have put kings and despots into a box. And we have adopted a goverance and legal system that explicitly deals with those two problems.

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Christianity in the past is a better religion than Islam in the past.

#Facts

kingkong0124
hahahaha
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#165 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Christianity in the past is a better religion than Islam in the past.

#Facts

-Sun_Tzu-
hahahaha

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]oh go f*ck yourselfSUD123456

Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see the degree to which each society has progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..

They are absolutely not based upon religion. They are in spite of religion.

The two primary factors that are the bedrock of western legal/rights development are:

The ascendancy of Parliament over Kings, most exemplified by the Glorious Revolution,

The ascendancy of the Rule of Law which also took off after the Glorious Revolution and ultimately led to the US Constitution

Ironically the Glorious Revolution came to be in part because of religious in-fighting:lol:

The problem with a considerable part of the Islamic world has nothing to do with their religion, per se. It has everything to do with never throwing off the shackles of kings and despots and never allowing the Rule of Law to flourish. Our societies have effectively put religion into a box. Just as we have put kings and despots into a box. And we have adopted a goverance and legal system that explicitly deals with those two problems.

lol islambs can almost be as cute as your avatar
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Christianity today is a better religion that Islam today. Christianity in the past is a better religion that Islam in the past.

#Facts

kingkong0124

Christianity in the past is a better religion that Islam in the past. ^ back that up.

http://catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0110.html

read up dude.

Such an unbiased source.... Christianity didnt force religion? I wonder what happenned in South America and Africa then?? And to talk about Islam's oppression of religion without mentioning your own Catholic and Old Testament oppression of women is a little fishy. Anyways, with regards to peace and love, I agree Jesus beats Mohammed by thousands of miles.
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lol islambs can almost be as cute as your avatarMrPraline

he does have a nice avatar, lol

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They are absolutely not based upon religion. They are in spite of religion.

The two primary factors that are the bedrock of western legal/rights development are:

The ascendancy of Parliament over Kings, most exemplified by the Glorious Revolution,

The ascendancy of the Rule of Law which also took off after the Glorious Revolution and ultimately led to the US Constitution

Ironically the Glorious Revolution came to be in part because of religious in-fighting:lol:

The problem with a considerable part of the Islamic world has nothing to do with their religion, per se. It has everything to do with never throwing off the shackles of kings and despots and never allowing the Rule of Law to flourish. Our societies have effectively put religion into a box. Just as we have put kings and despots into a box. And we have adopted a goverance and legal system that explicitly deals with those two problems.

SUD123456
Funny, I was just reading today about how an 11-year-old Pakistani girl faces execution for desecrating the Qur'an but no, religion has nothing to do with it
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"] Anyways, with regards to peace and love, I agree Jesus beats Mohammed by thousands of miles.

Ok, glad we agree. Now shut up.
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#171 LJS9502_basic
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]MrPraline
lol islambs can almost be as cute as your avatar

Dammit praline.....I had to look for his avatar.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"] Anyways, with regards to peace and love, I agree Jesus beats Mohammed by thousands of miles.

Ok, glad we agree. Now shut up.

Is something of yours rustled?
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"] Anyways, with regards to peace and love, I agree Jesus beats Mohammed by thousands of miles.

Ok, glad we agree. Now shut up.

Is something of yours rustled?

you wish
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"] Anyways, with regards to peace and love, I agree Jesus beats Mohammed by thousands of miles.

Ok, glad we agree. Now shut up.

Is something of yours rustled?

Would you like to rustle something of his?>__>
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Ok, glad we agree. Now shut up.

Is something of yours rustled?

you wish

this is starting to look like 13 year old school yard antics.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Is something of yours rustled? SaudiFury
you wish

this is starting to look like 13 year old school yard antics.

Okay.
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Is something of yours rustled? SaudiFury
you wish

this is starting to look like 13 year old school yard antics.

Starting? Are you new to GS?
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]So do you think netanyahu is prepared for a retaliatory attack? Because he seems quite reckless. There is no way some Israelis wont pay the price for an attack on Iran. Whether from Hamas or Iran's own arsenal. BossPerson
actually I see a greater threat from Hezbollah than I do from Hamas, Hezbollah can do more damage, and unlike Hamas , they do not rule a country, and do not have to answer to anyone. as for Israel being prepered, I do not know, there has been alot of money put in by the army into missile defense (the so called, 3 tier system , with Iron dome and Chetz systems, and such), bomb shelters that are being renovated (albeit slowly) , the home front are doing excercises in clearing bodies and injured out of damaged areas , etc. at the same time, there was an article today which claimed that in one situation , Israel might face 170 thousand rockets www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-4278119,00.html (there is map , which explains the situation very quickly) of course, this is only a worse case scenario , but its one of them there will be alot of damage no doubt, but the worry is that a nuclear Iran will result in more long term damage, one way or another.

So essentially Israel has to prepare for total war. That's quite a sticky situation you guys find yourselves in. It's like attacking a crocodile while your inside a swamp.

thats not new, I can remember quite easily how in school we had to practice running to the basement of the school (pretty much a bomb shelter) and put on gas masks (which made me look stupid) , also people tended to keep gas masks at home (the army distributed them for free) , war isn't new. but sadly there is not much else Israel can do , it can't help the Iranian opposition (since then the Ayatollahs can accuse them of being traitors) , and we both know international sanctions mean nothing (the Iranians will eat grass before they halt the nuclear program. its either suffer in the short term , or potentially suffer more in the long term. the ironic part here is that if it wasn't for the Ayatollahs, Israel and Iran would probably have been allies, as they were pre 79.
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see the degree to which each society has progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..

MrPraline

They are absolutely not based upon religion. They are in spite of religion.

The two primary factors that are the bedrock of western legal/rights development are:

The ascendancy of Parliament over Kings, most exemplified by the Glorious Revolution,

The ascendancy of the Rule of Law which also took off after the Glorious Revolution and ultimately led to the US Constitution

Ironically the Glorious Revolution came to be in part because of religious in-fighting:lol:

The problem with a considerable part of the Islamic world has nothing to do with their religion, per se. It has everything to do with never throwing off the shackles of kings and despots and never allowing the Rule of Law to flourish. Our societies have effectively put religion into a box. Just as we have put kings and despots into a box. And we have adopted a goverance and legal system that explicitly deals with those two problems.

lol islambs can almost be as cute as your avatar

Girt Wilders is that you? such a shame a very tolerant nation can spawn some ignorant people.
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#180 Allthishate
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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see the degree to which each society has progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..

MrPraline

They are absolutely not based upon religion. They are in spite of religion.

The two primary factors that are the bedrock of western legal/rights development are:

The ascendancy of Parliament over Kings, most exemplified by the Glorious Revolution,

The ascendancy of the Rule of Law which also took off after the Glorious Revolution and ultimately led to the US Constitution

Ironically the Glorious Revolution came to be in part because of religious in-fighting:lol:

The problem with a considerable part of the Islamic world has nothing to do with their religion, per se. It has everything to do with never throwing off the shackles of kings and despots and never allowing the Rule of Law to flourish. Our societies have effectively put religion into a box. Just as we have put kings and despots into a box. And we have adopted a goverance and legal system that explicitly deals with those two problems.

lol islambs can almost be as cute as your avatar

Girt Wilders is that you? such a shame a very tolerant nation can spawn some ignorant people.
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[QUOTE="Allthishate"] Girt Wilders is that you? such a shame a very tolerant nation can spawn some ignorant people.

It's Geert, and no, not him, Not even voting for him next week, actually.
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[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Okay, let's assume both Christianity and Islam are equally as bad. The difference is, Christians don't follow those bad teachings. Muslims do. Simple as that...a religion is largely based on its followers...kingkong0124

So judging Christianity by the actions of the Vatican during their heydays is fair? fine.

Christianity today is a better religion than Islam today. Christianity in the past is a better religion than Islam in the past.

#Facts

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]So judging Christianity by the actions of the Vatican during their heydays is fair? fine. l4dak47

Christianity today is a better religion than Islam today. Christianity in the past is a better religion than Islam in the past.

#Facts

>religion

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[QUOTE="SUD123456"]They are absolutely not based upon religion. They are in spite of religion.

The two primary factors that are the bedrock of western legal/rights development are:

The ascendancy of Parliament over Kings, most exemplified by the Glorious Revolution,

The ascendancy of the Rule of Law which also took off after the Glorious Revolution and ultimately led to the US Constitution

Ironically the Glorious Revolution came to be in part because of religious in-fighting:lol:

The problem with a considerable part of the Islamic world has nothing to do with their religion, per se. It has everything to do with never throwing off the shackles of kings and despots and never allowing the Rule of Law to flourish. Our societies have effectively put religion into a box. Just as we have put kings and despots into a box. And we have adopted a goverance and legal system that explicitly deals with those two problems.

MannyDelgado

Funny, I was just reading today about how an 11-year-old Pakistani girl faces execution for desecrating the Qur'an but no, religion has nothing to do with it

And a gazillion times in the past various Christians burned others to death for heresy. Is that also because of their religion? If so, why aren't Christians still burning people to death for heresy? Perhaps because it has nothing to do with religion. Think before you post.

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[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Harper better not get us in another f*cking war. Wastes enough money on stupid crap as it is. He'll probably want to play with his new planes though.ShadowMoses900

I do not know enough about Steven Harpers policies to make an informed decison on him, I do not live in Canada. But if this is his decision then the man deserves a standing ovation, he is recognising the danger that is Iran and how important it is to protect Israel, who is the victim once again.

Here are just a few of the reasons the Canadian Government has listed as to why Iran can no longer be an ally:

Iran refuses to comply with the United Nations resolutions pertaining to its nuclear program

Increasing military assistance to the regime of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad

Iran shelters and "materially supports" terrorist groups

Routine threats to the existence of the state of Israel

Repeated violations of the Vienna Convention which governs diplomatic relations between most countries of the world

"Racist anti-Semitic rhetoric and incitement to genocide," Baird said.

Worst violators of human rights.

I want to avoid war as much as possible. But Iran better not even lift a finger against Israel.

Lool. God, this is too easy. Israel is the only western state that has not ratified nor signed the NPT Supporting terrorist groups? I don't even know what that means. Netanyahu repeatedly threatens conflict with Iran And for human rights violations, one can refer to the Goldstone report.
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#187 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

kingkong0124

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Is that you?
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#188 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"]

Ace6301

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Yes. Since DroidPhysX is me, ergo, that is me.

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#189 DroidPhysX
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[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

DroidPhysX

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kingkong0124

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Yes. Since DroidPhysX is me, ergo, that is me.

jesus stop posting pics of us
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#190 BossPerson
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Did Kong dig that up from a PYP from like 2 years ago?

Sad.

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#191 kingkong0124
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Did Kong dig that up from a PYP from like 2 years ago?

Sad.

BossPerson

lol, no.

I typed in "skinny nerd" on Google.

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#192 themajormayor
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Harper better not get us in another f*cking war. Wastes enough money on stupid crap as it is. He'll probably want to play with his new planes though.thebest31406

I do not know enough about Steven Harpers policies to make an informed decison on him, I do not live in Canada. But if this is his decision then the man deserves a standing ovation, he is recognising the danger that is Iran and how important it is to protect Israel, who is the victim once again.

Here are just a few of the reasons the Canadian Government has listed as to why Iran can no longer be an ally:

Iran refuses to comply with the United Nations resolutions pertaining to its nuclear program

Increasing military assistance to the regime of Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad

Iran shelters and "materially supports" terrorist groups

Routine threats to the existence of the state of Israel

Repeated violations of the Vienna Convention which governs diplomatic relations between most countries of the world

"Racist anti-Semitic rhetoric and incitement to genocide," Baird said.

Worst violators of human rights.

I want to avoid war as much as possible. But Iran better not even lift a finger against Israel.

Lool. God, this is too easy. Israel is the only western state that has not ratified nor signed the NPT Supporting terrorist groups? I don't even know what that means. Netanyahu repeatedly threatens conflict with Iran And for human rights violations, one can refer to the Goldstone report.

LOL
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#194 cslayer211
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LOL this thread... anyways, I find it funny how much antii-semitism there is in this thread. They try to cover it up by saying "bu bu but I just hate Israel, not Jews" (which makes no sense) but really you guys are just fooling yourselves.
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#195 SaudiFury
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"bu bu but I just hate Israel, not Jews" (which makes no sense).cslayer211

remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.

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LOL "Anti semitic". You know, cslayer, that buzz word is going to lose all of its meaning when it's overused as an automatic reply to anything remotely critical of Israel. It probably already has.
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#197 Ace6301
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[QUOTE="MrPraline"]LOL "Anti semitic". You know, cslayer, that buzz word is going to lose all of its meaning when it's overused as an automatic reply to anything remotely critical of Israel. It probably already has.

If it hadn't lost all meaning by June it most certainly did after the entire front page was Israel topics for nearly an entire week.
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#198 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="cslayer211"]"bu bu but I just hate Israel, not Jews" (which makes no sense).SaudiFury

remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.

Im afraid that there is a direct link between hating a country and hating its people, its simply hilarious when you hear the old "I don't want Israel to exist, , but I have nothing against Jews" , Im sorry, but thats dishonest, if I had told you that I wanted to obliterate Saudia , but that I have nothing against Arabs, I doubt you would have felt comfortable.
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#199 SaudiFury
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[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

[QUOTE="cslayer211"]"bu bu but I just hate Israel, not Jews" (which makes no sense).Darkman2007

remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.

Im afraid that there is a direct link between hating a country and hating its people, its simply hilarious when you hear the old "I don't want Israel to exist, , but I have nothing against Jews" , Im sorry, but thats dishonest, if I had told you that I wanted to obliterate Saudia , but that I have nothing against Arabs, I doubt you would have felt comfortable.

ah and i was referring to 'hate' not in the absolutist sense of 'destroy it off the face of the planet' but rather if it's criticism of it's actions. people hate Saudia for it's laws and how conservative it is, doesn't mean it always translates into hating all the Saud's living there, though many on this forum would love to make life a whole lot harder for the some 200 members of my extended family back home if they got they're way. and yes i know full well that "I want Israel gone, no offense Jews" happens (quite a lot in the Arab/Muslim world), but i also know some people are hyper sensitive towards any criticism that people might say about Israel.
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#200 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.

SaudiFury
Im afraid that there is a direct link between hating a country and hating its people, its simply hilarious when you hear the old "I don't want Israel to exist, , but I have nothing against Jews" , Im sorry, but thats dishonest, if I had told you that I wanted to obliterate Saudia , but that I have nothing against Arabs, I doubt you would have felt comfortable.

ah and i was referring to 'hate' not in the absolutist sense of 'destroy it off the face of the planet' but rather if it's criticism of it's actions. people hate Saudia for it's laws and how conservative it is, doesn't mean it always translates into hating all the Saud's living there, though many on this forum would love to make life a whole lot harder for the some 200 members of my extended family back home if they got they're way. and yes i know full well that "I want Israel gone, no offense Jews" happens (quite a lot in the Arab/Muslim world), but i also know some people are hyper sensitive towards any criticism that people might say about Israel.

thats the thing, I generally translate hate into an absolute sense, think of it this way, I do not hate Iran , frankly , if it wasn't for their official government policy of trying to work towards my death, I wouldnt care who is in charge in Iran, its up to Iranians if they want to revolt but I think you know what I mean when I say that wanting a country wiped out while claiming to like its people is dishonest, and sadly its not just the Arab world, its also much of the hard left in Europe (and to a lesser extent the US , though the hard left is much weaker there) , its dishonest, especially given history , despite Europe's culture which tends to minimize the importance of history. the reason for the sensitivity on the part of the diaspora Jews comes from history , although I think people who are too happy to silence debate are just as harmful as the former type I described , its two different extremes. at the same time, alot of criticism itself is not very articulate , and sometimes just full of nonsense , at which point the suspicion begins.