Canada: "Iran is a Terrorist State"

Yay, Harper is doing a damn fine job of making us "Neutral" and "peacekeepers" as we are known for.:roll:

I still find it hard to believe that guy even won. Most of Canada voted against him. but then again anyone who votes conservative had no other choice but to vote for Harper, while everyone else voted against him had to vote for either NDP or Liberal.

In Dutch, we distinguish between 'joods' (jewish - relating to the culture and religion), and Joods (Jewish - relating to the ethnicity). The term ethnicity is still dubious here, though, as apparently you only need to have a Jewish mother to be considered ethnically Jewish. This is why, technically, you can have both white and black people that are ethnically Jewish. So even though it is definitely also an ethnic term, it isn't quite on the same level as terms such as 'Caucasian' and 'Arab'.

DraugenCP

It is through the mother according to Orthodox and other more conservative branches of Jews. Other Jews it is through either parent. It is not as cut and dry since we do not agree on everything.

And Arabs are considered Caucasian.

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

In Dutch, we distinguish between 'joods' (jewish - relating to the culture and religion), and Joods (Jewish - relating to the ethnicity). The term ethnicity is still dubious here, though, as apparently you only need to have a Jewish mother to be considered ethnically Jewish. This is why, technically, you can have both white and black people that are ethnically Jewish. So even though it is definitely also an ethnic term, it isn't quite on the same level as terms such as 'Caucasian' and 'Arab'.

ShadowMoses900

It is through the mother according to Orthodox and other more conservative branches of Jews. Other Jews it is through either parent. It is not as cut and dry since we do not agree on everything.

And Arabs are considered Caucasian.

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"]

Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.

It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.

BossPerson

Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.

The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.

Yay, Harper is doing a damn fine job of making us "Neutral" and "peacekeepers" as we are known for.:roll:

I still find it hard to believe that guy even won. Most of Canada voted against him. but then again anyone who votes conservative had no other choice but to vote for Harper, while everyone else voted against him had to vote for either NDP or Liberal.

lordreaven

I am not Canadian, but from my perspective Harper looks like he is doing a good job. You can't be neutral all the time, the people who choose to sit on the middle of the fence all the time will get impaled by it sooner or later.

Iran is not a good ally, Canada should have had the balls to sever all ties with them earlier. You guys need a better military, it is a joke to say the least. Diplomacy only get's you so far. Not that I'm dissing Canada, there are several aspects of it I like, I like the Canadian health care for example.

But your policy of "let's be neutral and friends with everyone" will not get anyone very far. But this is GS where the hardcore left loonies congregate like moths to a flame, so they are against anything that isn't 100% politically correct and think that backward dictator ran countries like Iran should be allowed to own nukes and be welcomed by the civilised western world.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.

The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.

themajormayor

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.

The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.

themajormayor

Race does not really exist, it is a misused term. Scientifically all humans are of one race. In general sense race is a broad term and ethnicity is more narrow.

According to wikipedia Jews are an ethno religious group. Meaning both are intertwined (I know wikipedia has issues)

Jews - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

According to the dictionary (and there are different dictionaries) they all say the same thing generally, just slight variations.

Here is the online definition: A member of the people and cultural community whose traditional religion is Judaism and who trace their origins through the ancient Hebrew people of Israel to Abraham

Both religion and ethnicity. Here is the princeton definition: A person belonging to the worldwide group claiming descent from Jacob (or converted to it) and connected by cultural or religious ties

Family Tree DNA - Discover Your Jewish Ancestry

Jewish Genetic Diseases

It is both. I suppose it would be more accurate to use the term Hebrew for ethnicity and Jew for religion, much like how Arab is ethnicity and Islam is religion. But Jew is used interchangabely so it works.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.

The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.

themajormayor

In any case I will get it ila 7bibti :) themajormayor

They taught you Arabish in school lol?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]In any case I will get it ila 7bibti :) BossPerson

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="themajormayor"]In any case I will get it ila 7bibti :) themajormayor

[QUOTE="themajormayor"]In any case I will get it ila 7bibti :) BossPerson

They taught you Arabish in school lol?

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]In any case I will get it ila 7bibti :) themajormayor

They taught you Arabish in school lol?

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="BossPerson"].....hm? To my love? BossPerson

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]...wait, Jews (Hebrews) who are atheist or convert to another religion are not eligible for citizenship in Israel? themajormayor

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="BossPerson"].....hm? To my love?

They taught you Arabish in school lol?

BossPerson

Yay, Harper is doing a damn fine job of making us "Neutral" and "peacekeepers" as we are known for.:roll:

I still find it hard to believe that guy even won. Most of Canada voted against him. but then again anyone who votes conservative had no other choice but to vote for Harper, while everyone else voted against him had to vote for either NDP or Liberal.

lordreaven

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Ana b3rif ya akhiBossPerson

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]What does the 9 mean? You seem to know better Arabish than meBossPerson

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Ahh.. yes Gulf Arabs. Those guys love to rent 3000 ticket CQ servers on Metro. BossPerson

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]I don't get why it is so important for us(non Zionist jews) to "protect" Isreal. What have they done for us and what will we gain from helping them?ShadowMoses900

I hear there is a lot of anti-semitism in many European countries still. There are growing number of attacks on Jewish people, and these are very liberal countries.

What in the world would Zionists do without anti-Semitism? :roll:

Anti-semitism has been "on the rise" only because the bar for anti-Semitic behaviour has been lowered to the point where ANY CRITICISM of Israel is now automatically considered "anti-Semitic".

California passes resolution defining criticism of Israel as anti-Semitism

[QUOTE="DraugenCP"]

In Dutch, we distinguish between 'joods' (jewish - relating to the culture and religion), and Joods (Jewish - relating to the ethnicity). The term ethnicity is still dubious here, though, as apparently you only need to have a Jewish mother to be considered ethnically Jewish. This is why, technically, you can have both white and black people that are ethnically Jewish. So even though it is definitely also an ethnic term, it isn't quite on the same level as terms such as 'Caucasian' and 'Arab'.

ShadowMoses900

It is through the mother according to Orthodox and other more conservative branches of Jews. Other Jews it is through either parent. It is not as cut and dry since we do not agree on everything.

And Arabs are considered Caucasian.

I got a question for the Jews in OT. Why do Orthodox Jews...for the most part, stink? Are you guys allowed to only take a shower once a week or something? lol Canada, go back to making syrup.MgamerBD

I got a question for the Jews in OT. Why do Orthodox Jews...for the most part, stink? Are you guys allowed to only take a shower once a week or something? lol Canada, go back to making syrup.MgamerBD

I got a question for the Jews in OT. Why do Orthodox Jews...for the most part, stink? Are you guys allowed to only take a shower once a week or something? lol Canada, go back to making syrup.MgamerBD

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I got a question for the Jews in OT. Why do Orthodox Jews...for the most part, stink? Are you guys allowed to only take a shower once a week or something? lol Canada, go back to making syrup.BossPerson

This is turning into kind of a weird discussion, but I do know that a lot of older generation muslim immigrants from Turkey and Morocco here do not use deodorant and tend to eat foods that contain a lot of garlic or other ingredients that generate strong odour. Combine these two elements and the result is not nice for your nose.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I got a question for the Jews in OT. Why do Orthodox Jews...for the most part, stink? Are you guys allowed to only take a shower once a week or something? lol Canada, go back to making syrup.BossPerson

This is turning into kind of a weird discussion, but I do know that a lot of older generation muslim immigrants from Turkey and Morocco here do not use deodorant and tend to eat foods that contain a lot of garlic or other ingredients that generate strong odour. Combine these two elements and the result is not nice for your nose.

DraugenCP

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I got a question for the Jews in OT. Why do Orthodox Jews...for the most part, stink? Are you guys allowed to only take a shower once a week or something? lol Canada, go back to making syrup.MgamerBD

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I got a question for the Jews in OT. Why do Orthodox Jews...for the most part, stink? Are you guys allowed to only take a shower once a week or something? lol Canada, go back to making syrup.MgamerBD