Canada: "Iran is a Terrorist State"
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[QUOTE="SuperKaio-ken"]Because a country with a military power of under 100,000 (actually really it's even under 70,000) can take on Iran or is even close to a threat to Iran, am I right? If it wasn't for the U.S safeguarding us I wonder if Canada would have been so bold to even come out against Iran to begin with. How long does this ****ing country have to hide behind the U.S before far left morons realize we need at least SOMEWHAT of a military in order to maintain national security, keep a strong international image and continue the fight over territory that is rightfully ours?[QUOTE="Ace6301"]Harper better not get us in another f*cking war. Wastes enough money on stupid crap as it is. He'll probably want to play with his new planes though.Ace6301
But nope, the libs here have already demolished our military and any move Harper makes to improve it is immediately met with harsh criticism. You realize our military isn't even recruiting for combat positions? And we probably have less than 30,000 in combat positions to begin with :lol: Seriously, and people complain when our Prime Minister slightly improves our air force? Do you have any idea how far Canada has fallen as a military power in the world? The Canadian Military at one time made the Germans shake in their boots.
ugh this country is seriously a joke now. Why would the U.S even want us as an ally militarily? It's not like we could do much to help them. The only reason we are 25th in the world is because we have potential to build a great military, and if it wasn't for that potential we would be somewhere around 50th - 70th which isn't even on par with Ethiopia or Kuwait. Iran would annihilate us in a one on one fight......even Israel would beat us. Why is it that Canadians are the only ones who fail to realize how much of a joke the Canadian Military is?
First I never said Canada would engage alone. Second no one f*cks with Canada because we'd be as hard to invade as Russia and because we have damn good diplomatic relations with pretty much every well off country in the world. We don't NEED a horridly bloated military like the US because we don't invade a country every decade and we don't exactly have any real enemies. Military potential is hugely important, far more important than peace time military standing. Look at WWII US and Canada if you need a good example of a kick ass military fighting force that came from sh*t. People criticize Harper on his military spending because it's massively wasteful. He's putting money into brand new state of the art planes. He could buy some newer models that aren't brand new that are almost as effective for much less but Harper wants his toys. You know what's a smart move? Being on excellent terms with all the greatest military nations on the planet. It also happens to be cheap, effective and lets us sit in a damn sweet position. I see you constantly talk sh*t about Canada but your points are crap. I remember some big long ranting post from a few days ago but you deleted it because you can't back up your points. Rather than looking at history, logic and reason you just spout a bunch of useless bravado. Canadians know our military isn't something too scary, despite what you may think. I have friends in the military and we joke about it all the time. We however know this country doesn't need some huge military to compensate for other short comings because we're awesome anyway. Also we have 68,000 troops, not less than 30,000.Diplomatic relations change constantly, just because we are liked so much now doesn't mean we will be when push comes to shove in the future over the worlds depleting resources. I never said we need a horridly bloated military either, but as it stands our military is an absolute joke. I agree that Military potential is hugely important, however it takes years to build up a solid military force that is a capable, and you cant even compare the training soldiers need in the modern age to what they needed in WW2 as modern technology has changed the game up quite a bit. Also we could probably sit and argue about Harpers decision on buying those planes all day, hell ever since it made the news it's all the far left Canadians can b*tch about in this country. The fact is he bought modern up to date technology which will give us an advantage. Better than buying used planes, older and less capable planes that will need to be replaced sooner just because they are "cheaper"
While Canada might be on excellent terms with all the greatest military nations on the planet, you would have to be moronic to think that they are out for Canada's best interests. WE need a capable military because it lets other nations know we wont be pushed around, makes us more dominant on the international stage and let's the world know that we have the ability to protect our resources and land that is rightfully ours. I talk sh*t about Canada because it's not as great as people make it out to be here. High taxes, high living costs, post-secondary education that for the most part is a complete waste of money here unless you want to go job searching in the United States, multiculturalism that is failing and destroying Canada's culture, a government that outwardly admits they hire people of a certain colour and gender over other's to "represent this multiculturalism" a political system that is corrupt as ****
and than you have Canadians who are like "We are more free than the United States" When we don't even have direct democracy here and we have senators who aren't even voted in by the people (senators who have a huge amount of voting power) and a Prime Minister that gets to pick and chooes the questions he's asked by the Media and a crappy voting system. I don't know what post you are talking about, I probably planned to make that into a topic but never got around to it/ Also I said "probably" Less than 30,000 combat positions, you realize not every position in the military is a combat one? There are cooks, technicians, engineers etc that make up a large portion of the military. The worst part is our military isn't even openly recruiting for 90% of positions :lol: I don't want a big huge strong overpriced Military either, but the truth is Canada needs a much better one than it currently has and that is undeniable.
Yes, sever all ties with a country.
Thats a great idea.
Also, where did this idea that Israel is pure and innocent come from? :lol:
I like Canada though.
Half the posters on this forum im assuming from the nature of there post are either Jewish or israli (Some comments like isreal is the shinnying beacon in the region what a load of horse @%@^)Yes, sever all ties with a country.
Thats a great idea.
Also, where did this idea that Israel is pure and innocent come from? :lol:
I like Canada though.
Ilovegames1992
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]Half the posters on this forum im assuming from the nature of there post are either Jewish or israli (Some comments like isreal is the shinnying beacon in the region what a load of horse @%@^) regardless of what you think about Israel , I can assure you (and Im not saying this out of boasting) , that if you gave the Arabs of the Mideast today an option between living under their current system of government, or something closer to Israel's political system , I have a feeling most will opt for the latter option, or at least something like it. maybe Im wrong )Arab posters on OT can correct me if Im wrong), but Israel has plenty of good things to boast about, even if its never going to be perfect, especially living in this region (its like keeping a Villa in the jungle, its never going to work 100%)Yes, sever all ties with a country.
Thats a great idea.
Also, where did this idea that Israel is pure and innocent come from? :lol:
I like Canada though.
Allthishate
[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]Half the posters on this forum im assuming from the nature of there post are either Jewish or israli (Some comments like isreal is the shinnying beacon in the region what a load of horse @%@^) regardless of what you think about Israel , I can assure you (and Im not saying this out of boasting) , that if you gave the Arabs of the Mideast today an option between living under their current system of government, or something closer to Israel's political system , I have a feeling most will opt for the latter option, or at least something like it. maybe Im wrong )Arab posters on OT can correct me if Im wrong), but Israel has plenty of good things to boast about, even if its never going to be perfect, especially living in this region (its like keeping a Villa in the jungle, its never going to work 100%) It has Some Decent things. but our outweigh by the actions of its government. but that's my opinionYes, sever all ties with a country.
Thats a great idea.
Also, where did this idea that Israel is pure and innocent come from? :lol:
I like Canada though.
Darkman2007
[QUOTE="Allthishate"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] regardless of what you think about Israel , I can assure you (and Im not saying this out of boasting) , that if you gave the Arabs of the Mideast today an option between living under their current system of government, or something closer to Israel's political system , I have a feeling most will opt for the latter option, or at least something like it. maybe Im wrong )Arab posters on OT can correct me if Im wrong), but Israel has plenty of good things to boast about, even if its never going to be perfect, especially living in this region (its like keeping a Villa in the jungle, its never going to work 100%)Darkman2007It has Some Decent things. but our outweigh by the actions of its government. but that's my opinion your opinion is your opinion , but I can assure you that unlike you, I actually know enough about the country to speak about it. and no , Im afraid you , just like 8/10 people in the west or in the Arab world, know relatively little about the country, and at most , pick and choose the info that suits them, from sources which themselves know next to nothing.
Can you list me everything positive and negative about the country backed up with evidence for the benefit of us ignorant westerners and Arabs.
Thanks
[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="cslayer211"]"bu bu but I just hate Israel, not Jews" (which makes no sense).Darkman2007
remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.
Im afraid that there is a direct link between hating a country and hating its people, its simply hilarious when you hear the old "I don't want Israel to exist, , but I have nothing against Jews" , Im sorry, but thats dishonest, if I had told you that I wanted to obliterate Saudia , but that I have nothing against Arabs, I doubt you would have felt comfortable......I do want to destroy Saudi Arabia.... although replace it with something more democratic.... There's a difference between hating a government and a nationGovernment, nation, culture, people.
These are all totally seperate.
I dislike my government, i don't hate my countrymen.
Don't be so obtuse and silly.
your opinion is your opinion , but I can assure you that unlike you, I actually know enough about the country to speak about it. and no , Im afraid you , just like 8/10 people in the west or in the Arab world, know relatively little about the country, and at most , pick and choose the info that suits them, from sources which themselves know next to nothing.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Allthishate"] It has Some Decent things. but our outweigh by the actions of its government. but that's my opinion Ilovegames1992
Can you list me everything positive and negative about the country backed up with evidence for the benefit of us ignorant westerners and Arabs.
Thanks
Im not going to start giving evidence for everything, simply because I cannot be bothered , you want to find something, look it up . besides, if you want to know about a country , its best to read what the people of that country say, and I doubt anybody here can read Hebrew well. the good - democracy, independent judiciary, relative economic freedom , decent standards of living, lots of tech innovation , religious minorities get more freedom than they do in some western countries. the bad - over centralized, slow bureaucracy , too democratic sometimes for its own good , too many interest groups , sometimes funded by foreigners. alot of racism on a bureacracy level. that should do for now.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="SaudiFury"]Im afraid that there is a direct link between hating a country and hating its people, its simply hilarious when you hear the old "I don't want Israel to exist, , but I have nothing against Jews" , Im sorry, but thats dishonest, if I had told you that I wanted to obliterate Saudia , but that I have nothing against Arabs, I doubt you would have felt comfortable......I do want to destroy Saudi Arabia.... although replace it with something more democratic.... There's a difference between hating a government and a nation when people hate Israel its usually the nation , the very idea its there. besides, are you aware what the term Israel actually refers to in the Jewish world?remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.
BossPerson
The arrogance is strong with this one.
Im oh so sorry to have upset you with my arrogant nature :PThe arrogance is strong with this one.
Ilovegames1992
[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]Im oh so sorry to have upset you with my arrogant nature :PThe arrogance is strong with this one.
Darkman2007
Upset me? Nah.
Its just hard to take you seriously, is all.
Im oh so sorry to have upset you with my arrogant nature :P[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
The arrogance is strong with this one.
Ilovegames1992
Upset me? Nah.
Its just hard to take you seriously, is all.
not getting taken seriously by you is not necessarily a bad thing.[QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"][QUOTE="Darkman2007"] Im oh so sorry to have upset you with my arrogant nature :PDarkman2007
Upset me? Nah.
Its just hard to take you seriously, is all.
not getting taken seriously by you is not necessarily a bad thing.I guessed this reply to the letter.
You gamespotters never disappoint. :lol:
not getting taken seriously by you is not necessarily a bad thing.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
Upset me? Nah.
Its just hard to take you seriously, is all.
Ilovegames1992
I guessed this reply to the letter.
You gamespotters never disappoint. :lol:
No you gamespotters sure don't....not getting taken seriously by you is not necessarily a bad thing.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Ilovegames1992"]
Upset me? Nah.
Its just hard to take you seriously, is all.
Ilovegames1992
I guessed this reply to the letter.
You gamespotters never disappoint. :lol:
Im glad youre not disappointed :P
Dumb move by Harper. They should just stay out of this whole Iran business.
This. If anything these people should just sit down and bloody talk, instead of these hushed threats.Dumb move by Harper. They should just stay out of this whole Iran business.
Aljosa23
[QUOTE="cslayer211"]"bu bu but I just hate Israel, not Jews" (which makes no sense).SaudiFury
remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.
They say they only hate Israel but also complain about how Jews control the media, how their rich etc. It's defiantly not just hate Israel's government, but rather on Jews.
I don't get why it is so important for us(non Zionist jews) to "protect" Isreal. What have they done for us and what will we gain from helping them?Rockman999Provide sanctuary for all Jews
I don't get why it is so important for us(non Zionist jews) to "protect" Isreal. What have they done for us and what will we gain from helping them?Rockman999no one asked for your help , just don't come running to the Jewish state if the non Jews in your particular country decide to kill you. and no , I do not care how liberal the place where you live is, 100 years ago , Germany was one of the most liberal and tolerant places for Jews, so you can never predict the future.
Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.
[QUOTE="Rockman999"]I don't get why it is so important for us(non Zionist jews) to "protect" Isreal. What have they done for us and what will we gain from helping them?Darkman2007no one asked for your help , just don't come running to the Jewish state if the non Jews in your particular country decide to kill you. and no , I do not care how liberal the place where you live is, 100 years ago , Germany was one of the most liberal and tolerant places for Jews, so you can never predict the future.
I hear there is a lot of anti-semitism in many European countries still. There are growing number of attacks on Jewish people, and these are very liberal countries.
well tbh, initially it was called a Hebrew state , the original leaders of Israel were not great believes in God, so they tended to educate people to ignore the Jewish part of their heritage, nd harken back to the Hebrew side, essentially, they said , "don't copy the Rabbis of the diaspora, copy David, Bar Kochva etc" work was called "Avoda Ivrit" or Hebrew work. the thing is , the line between the ethnic and religious sides of it all ,are blurry, and in general , the Hebrews are seen by Jews in the same way the Gauls are seen by the French.Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that's quite a discriminatory policy. I dont undrstand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
BossPerson
no one asked for your help , just don't come running to the Jewish state if the non Jews in your particular country decide to kill you. and no , I do not care how liberal the place where you live is, 100 years ago , Germany was one of the most liberal and tolerant places for Jews, so you can never predict the future.[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Rockman999"]I don't get why it is so important for us(non Zionist jews) to "protect" Isreal. What have they done for us and what will we gain from helping them?ShadowMoses900
I hear there is a lot of anti-semitism in many European countries still. There are growing number of attacks on Jewish people, and these are very liberal countries.
some more than others , but yes, sadly its still happens. not that Im saying that every non Jew is genocidal , obviously not, but things change, ideas change, sometimes very quickly, a country which is seen as tolerant one year, could become a living hell the next , all you need are some tough economic conditions and a charismatic leader on the far right or far left, exactly as it happened in Europe of the 1930sWhy even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.
BossPerson
Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.
The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.
[QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.
ShadowMoses900
Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.
The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.
I always thought this wasn't true, and Judaism is actually fairly exclusive as to who is seen as a 'full' Jew.[QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.
ShadowMoses900
Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.
The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.
"A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish" Well that's just plain dumb. Don't most israelis say that Israel is a Jewish state in the sense of ethnicity? Not in the sense of religion. By your scenario of the chinese man, Israel is a state about religion far more than ethnicity.[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.
BossPerson
Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.
The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.
"A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish" Well that's just plain dumb. Don't most israelis say that Israel is a Jewish state in the sense of ethnicity? Not in the sense of religion. By your scenario of the chinese man, Israel is a state about religion far more than ethnicity. Yeah, this is what I meant above.[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.
BossPerson
Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.
The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.
"A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish" Well that's just plain dumb. Don't most israelis say that Israel is a Jewish state in the sense of ethnicity? Not in the sense of religion. By your scenario of the chinese man, Israel is a state about religion far more than ethnicity. like I said , the line is blurry, most people in Israel see it as an ethnicity or nation , but the religion is almost attached to it. what you have to remember that the Jewish religion , arrived at a time when every nation had its own religion more or less, there was no real world spanning religion , so in alot of ways , religion was connected with ethnicity and culture. when somebody started worshipping the Gods of another people, it was seen as though he had become part of that nation , when some Jews started worshipping Greek Gods and adopting Greek ways, they were called Mityavnim by other Jews, or Helenized. although I will say that not very many people want to use just genetics to determine who is a Jew, because in that instance, that Chinese convert would not a Jew, while a whole bunch of Lebanese, Syrians and Palestinians , could suddenly claim to be Jews, since they are genetically closer to the Jews.
Dumb move by Harper. They should just stay out of this whole Iran business.
Aljosa23
[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]
Why even call it a Jewish state though? Why not call it a hebrew state, since that's the ethnic part of the Jewish world. If a Chinese man converts to Judaism, should he have quick access to moving to Israel? I dont think so, that dpesnt make much sense. I dont understand why the term "jew" is even used with regards to Israel, it should be the term Hebrew imo. The Hebrew people, culture, etc.
It'll also help alleviate confusion when talk about what a jewish person is.
BossPerson
Hebrew is the ethnic group and language of the Jewish people. However the term Jew is used interchangaebly and IMO it fits better. A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish.
The Chinese man will never be Hebrew in his ethnicity, but the can become Hebrew in his culture. This is why Jew fits better.
"A Chinese man who converts to Judaism is now a member of the tribe, he is seen as a fellow descendent of Abraham and Issac, he would be Jewish just as much as one who was born Jewish" Well that's just plain dumb. Don't most israelis say that Israel is a Jewish state in the sense of ethnicity? Not in the sense of religion. By your scenario of the chinese man, Israel is a state about religion far more than ethnicity.It is complex because no one can agree on it, not even us Jews.
For starters you have the different sects, each seeing Jews and Judaism differently. For instance Orthodox Jews only see one as a Jew if their mother was Jewish, or if they convert through an Orthodox Rabbi. Even if that person who was born from a Jewish mother and becomes an atheist or converts to another religion, he is still seen as a Jew.
This is in contrast with other Jewish groups like the Reform, who see one as a Jew if either parent was Jewish. Or if someone converts to any Judaims regardless of sect. In ancient Israel it was origionally passed down through the father, it was changed to the mother during the time of the Romans as Jewish women were being raped and the child of a Roman mother was seen as a citizen of Rome. So the Jews just adopted that.
Think of it like being in a nation. Like Germany for instance. There are the Germans who are white with blond hair etc....ethnic Germans. However there are also black Germans and Chinese and Korean Germans and Arab Germans etc...they immigrated and became German citizens by adopting their laws and customs, or at least their ancestors did.
Jews are much the same. Some are born Jews and are ethnically Jewish ragardless if they practice Judaism, convert to Christianity, or even become atheist. Then there are some who were not born Jewish but become adopted into the nation and become members of the tribe by adopting the nations culture, religion etc....and become Jews.
And Jews have been living in exile for centuries. The ones who ran to Europe and were called Ashkenazi beause that is where they settled after the Diaspora. One's who ran to the Medietarrianian (sp? ) countries and around Spain were called Sephardic Jews. Jews that chose to escape to other ME countries became known as Mezerat Jews (sp? ).
All of these groups did have some intermingling with the non Jews there. Hence why some Jews (Ashkenazi) have lighter skin because they inter mixed with some Europeans and lived in a colder climate. They also mixed some cultural things too, like Yiddish is a mix of Hebrew and Ancient German (which is why it is written in Hebrew letters because the ancient Germans could not write).
All these groups however retain the same DNA and are more related to ME populations than the one's they settled in.
In Dutch, we distinguish between 'joods' (jewish - relating to the culture and religion), and Joods (Jewish - relating to the ethnicity). The term ethnicity is still dubious here, though, as apparently you only need to have a Jewish mother to be considered ethnically Jewish. This is why, technically, you can have both white and black people that are ethnically Jewish. So even though it is definitely also an ethnic term, it isn't quite on the same level as terms such as 'Caucasian' and 'Arab'.
[QUOTE="SaudiFury"][QUOTE="cslayer211"]"bu bu but I just hate Israel, not Jews" (which makes no sense).cslayer211
remember this kiddo's when you hate on a nation you hate everyone including the ethnicities within said nation state. so when we hate Iran, we ALSO hate all the people of Iran. when we hate on North Korea we ALSO hate all the North Koreans. same thing with all the other countries we don't like in the world.
They say they only hate Israel but also complain about how Jews control the media, how their rich etc. It's defiantly not just hate Israel's government, but rather on Jews.Who are 'they'?
Go Canada.Canada is now severing it's relationship with Iran for reasons of national (and international) security, the Canadian Government now considers the entire country of Iran to be a "State Sponser of Terrorism" and a threat to the world.
This decision also comes admist Canada's fast and strong growing relationship with Israel (the good guys), a country that Iran wants to destroy. Canada has also decided to help protect Israel in case of an attack and will send aid to secure Israels safety and well being.
I think a round of applause is in order for Canada. They are making the right decision and standing up for the little guy (Israel) who is being picked on by the bullies.
Canada declares Iran a state sponsor of terror
"Canada views the government of Iran as the most significant threat to global peace and security in the world today,"
"The government of Canada is formally listing Iran as a state sponsor of terrorism."
ShadowMoses900
thing is , even the term Arab, as a singular ethnicity is wrong, Arabs are linked to each other genetically, but there is also alot of diversity, given the fact they mixed in with the local populations of each country they took , which is why you could take an Egyptian Arab, put him next to a Syrian Arab, and they would look somewhat different, at least to me. you could I suppose say similar things about Jews, though the intermarriage part was less pronounced as Jews were generally quite isolated from society for the last 1900 years.In Dutch, we distinguish between 'joods' (jewish - relating to the culture and religion), and Joods (Jewish - relating to the ethnicity). The term ethnicity is still dubious here, though, as apparently you only need to have a Jewish mother to be considered ethnically Jewish. This is why, technically, you can have both white and black people that are ethnically Jewish. So even though it is definitely also an ethnic term, it isn't quite on the same level as terms such as 'Caucasian' and 'Arab'.
DraugenCP
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