Canada: "Iran is a Terrorist State"

Muslims can worship Lotan and still attatch the characteristics of Yahweh to him. The name doesnt matter. Whatever the origin of the name Allah, for all intents and purposes they believe in the Abrahamic god.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Religions of the Abrahamic tradition are based on peace and love. Islam really is just a b*st*rdization of the previous two, although I strongly commend their beliefs in Jesus, Moses, etc. kingkong0124

Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see how the degree to which society progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..

they believe in the Abrahamic god.

BossPerson

Some argue they don't...read Mraline's links

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Religions of the Abrahamic tradition are based on peace and love. Islam really is just a b*st*rdization of the previous two, although I strongly commend their beliefs in Jesus, Moses, etc. kingkong0124

Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see the degree to which each society has progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..

BossPerson

Christianity supports the notion of the separation of religion and state...the Christians of the Dark Ages did not listen to what Jesus said, he was clearly against religion and state being together..

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]kingkong0124

Christianity supports the notion of the separation of religion and state...the Christians of the Dark Ages did not listen to what Jesus said, he was clearly against religion and state being together..

God is God. His image is impossible for us to imagine, and since we can see the moon and therefore imagine it, God is ergo not the moon. m25105

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Christianity supports the notion of the separation of religion and state...the Christians of the Dark Ages did not listen to what Jesus said, he was clearly against religion and state being together..

Most Christians believe it to be symbolical/metaphoric in nature..of course there are some exceptions, but that's pretty much the commonly-held belief.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Christianity supports the notion of the separation of religion and state...the Christians of the Dark Ages did not listen to what Jesus said, he was clearly against religion and state being together..

kingkong0124

Most Christians believe it to be symbolical/metaphoric in nature..of course there are some exceptions, but that's pretty much the commonly-held belief.

BossPerson

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Christianity supports the notion of the separation of religion and state...the Christians of the Dark Ages did not listen to what Jesus said, he was clearly against religion and state being together..

kingkong0124

Most Christians believe it to be symbolical/metaphoric in nature..of course there are some exceptions, but that's pretty much the commonly-held belief.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="m25105"] I doubt Saudi is that little of a person to do that.m25105

You didn't have to type that out. There's a :roll: for that.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]kingkong0124

Christianity supports the notion of the separation of religion and state...the Christians of the Dark Ages did not listen to what Jesus said, he was clearly against religion and state being together..

lol right. that's why they don't want stem cell research, gay rights, and even historically black rights, women's rights. your right. it does say in the good book that there should be a seperation of church and state. that's why Jefferson - the author of the declaration of independence - kept his Bible good as new.

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also if people wanna keep insisting that Allah is a moon god, by all means go ahead. I see no reason why religious people should have a monopoly of saying stupid $hit, whenever it suits their arguement.

Darkman2007

Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]kingkong0124

Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]kingkong0124

Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

SaudiFury

Many Christians do believe in gay rights" and stem cell research. And by the way, Christianity was not against black rights/women rights, it was backwards people..

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]BossPerson

Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

BossPerson

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kingkong0124

Many Christians do believe in gay rights" and stem cell research. And by the way, Christianity was not against black rights/women rights, it was backwards people..

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]Well a quick google search reveals he's quite extreme. BossPerson

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BossPerson

Okay, let's assume what you said is true. Let's pretend there was no bias on the website that you copied and pasted those verses from. Let's pretend that Christians didn't put on their thinking caps. Let's look at it from a completely objective viewpoint.

Most Christians do not follow these beliefs. That's all that matters.

[QUOTE="BossPerson"] kingkong0124

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"]MrPraline

Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

chessmaster1989

[QUOTE="BossPerson"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Religions of the Abrahamic tradition are based on peace and love. Islam really is just a b*st*rdization of the previous two, although I strongly commend their beliefs in Jesus, Moses, etc. kingkong0124

Looking from a completely objective standpoint, we can compare Christian/Jewish countries to Islamic countries. Apart from a few countries (Turkey, UAE, etc.) we can see the degree to which each society has progressed..In almost all cases, Christian/Jewish countries value human rights more. These differences are based on culture/religion. If you don't agree with this point that's fine, just have a reasonable reply, unlike something like "f yourself"..

you don't think that has anything to do with industrialization? western nations have been industrializing since the 18th century; you can't say the same about those islamic-majority nations, which most have barely been independent for a century.

so no, those differences are not entirely attributed to religious/cultural factors.

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Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

DroidPhysX

here come the apologists..

[QUOTE="BossPerson"]kingkong0124

Okay, let's assume what you said is true. Let's pretend there was no bias on the website that you copied and pasted those verses from. Let's pretend that Christians didn't put on their thinking caps. Let's look at it from a completely objective viewpoint.

Most Christians do not follow these beliefs. That's all that matters.

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kingkong0124

Many Christians do believe in gay rights" and stem cell research. And by the way, Christianity was not against black rights/women rights, it was backwards people..

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Such a separation is more difficult if you, in lieu of a religion, adhere to a totalitarian ideology that wishes to control your life from cradle to grave. I can't see Islambs and such a separation ever being a feasible combination.kingkong0124

here come the apologists..

[QUOTE="MrPraline"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

Jesus believed in the seperation of church and state. That's all I know. As for Judaism, they seem to value human rights - Israel. I can't say the same about most countries that are Islamically run.

chessmaster1989

BossPerson

[QUOTE="DroidPhysX"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Such a separation is more difficult if you, in lieu of a religion, adhere to a totalitarian ideology that wishes to control your life from cradle to grave. I can't see Islambs and such a separation ever being a feasible combination.kingkong0124

here come the apologists..

[QUOTE="BossPerson"] kingkong0124

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[QUOTE="BossPerson"] DroidPhysX

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="BossPerson"]So how is agreement on the attack among the administration? Because when Barak made that point about 500 being dead, he didnt really sound like he wasnt in favour in the attack. BossPerson