Congressman shouts "Liar" to Pres. Obama during speech to nation

[QUOTE="its_me_"]

Actually there were weapons of mass destruction. There were 3 megaton nuclear bombs, and I saw them with my own eyes when I was deployed to Iraq with an ST unit in 2005. Unfortunately, only 4 and 5 megaton nuclear bombs count technically as 'weapons of mass destruction.' So, rather than reporting what I've just told you, MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, and the rest of the anti-conservative news outlets reported that we found none, and then called Bush a liar. They obviously succeeded in convincing a lot of people.

Lindsosaurus

To be fair, you can add fox news to that list, because that's where I heard it from. Regardless, my point still stands. It was a bipartisan decision and the controversy didn't come until after it was reported that they didn't "technically" have weapons of mass destruction.

Anyways, on a side note, thank you for your service to our country. :)

No, people were saying before we ever invaded that there were no WMD's, or at least no evidence to support that conclusion. They also made the case that the war was going to cost more money than we could afford, those arguments just didn't gain traction until AFTER we had already committed our troops and the war started going downhill. And there was ALWAYS a large civilian resistance against the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

I thought it was a pretty raccous speech overall considering almost everyone in attendance was a politician. Even with Bush I remember silence and a refusal to applaud, but I've never before seen an address to congress with such jeering. I also thought it was pretty funny how just about every Republican gave a standing ovation to malpractice reform but didn't do so for even the issues which were thought to be bi-partisan and not championed by any specific party. And then there was the dunce who gave the Republican reply. Obama comes out in support of ideas like malpractice reform and interstate insurance markets and the first words out of this guy's mouth are, "The President said he doesn't support malpractice reform and interstate insurance markets." Way to show that you're paying attention to this whole debate.

theone86

Yeah, I thought the Republican rebuttal was dumb too, but I am sure I am viewed as "biased".

[QUOTE="its_me_"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] Im not gonna lie to you. I have not read anything on it yet (I like to tell the truth). But I was talking about the behavior both inside and out of Congress. Comparing Obama to the AntiChrist, Parents taking their kids out of school to dodge a get back to school speech, Calling him a socialist. The list goes on....chessmaster1989

The antichrist thing is ridiculous. The other two are perfectly legitimate. I'm not sure you grasp the concept of "liberty."

I'm not sure you grasp the concept of socialism, if you think Obama's a socialist.

[QUOTE="Lindsosaurus"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I know that I will be attacked for this but. Why would they treat someone so bad? They never treated Bush so bad and he almost destroyed the country. Sorry OT from now on im playing the race card.MgamerBD

Both Democrats and Republicans voted to go to Iraq. It wasn't an unpopular idea until we realized there were no weapons of mass destruction (and really I am sure there were democratic congressmen who were just as rude to Bush, it just wasnt televised)....Obama's healthcare plan is an extremely polarizing idea. This has nothing to do with race. You have to realize how controversial this plan really is.

People never treated Bush bad?

You can put the race card away now.

To clear up any confusion. Yes Obama has socialist ideas... No he is not a socialist. May be confusing, but tis true.Oblivionfan10

Indeed, that would be an accurate assessment... but, then again, anyone who supports public education, the police force, and firefighters supports socialist ideas...

[QUOTE="Lindsosaurus"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I know that I will be attacked for this but. Why would they treat someone so bad? They never treated Bush so bad and he almost destroyed the country. Sorry OT from now on im playing the race card.its_me_

Both Democrats and Republicans voted to go to Iraq. It wasn't an unpopular idea until we realized there were no weapons of mass destruction (and really I am sure there were democratic congressmen who were just as rude to Bush, it just wasnt televised)....Obama's healthcare plan is an extremely polarizing idea. This has nothing to do with race. You have to realize how controversial this plan really is.

Actually there were weapons of mass destruction. There were 3 megaton nuclear bombs, and I saw them with my own eyes when I was deployed to Iraq with an ST unit in 2005. Unfortunately, only 4 and 5 megaton nuclear bombs count technically as 'weapons of mass destruction.' So, rather than reporting what I've just told you, MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, and the rest of the anti-conservative news outlets reported that we found none, and then called Bush a liar. They obviously succeeded in convincing a lot of people.

http://www.factcheck.org/askfactcheck/were_there_really_weapons_of_mass_destruction.html

And this is coming from someone who supported the Iraq war then and I do not regret that support now. But let's not try and make it seem as if had we not invaded preemptivelythat "the smoking gun" would have been a "mushroom cloud", because that's not true.

[QUOTE="Lindsosaurus"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I know that I will be attacked for this but. Why would they treat someone so bad? They never treated Bush so bad and he almost destroyed the country. Sorry OT from now on im playing the race card.theone86

Both Democrats and Republicans voted to go to Iraq. It wasn't an unpopular idea until we realized there were no weapons of mass destruction (and really I am sure there were democratic congressmen who were just as rude to Bush, it just wasnt televised)....Obama's healthcare plan is an extremely polarizing idea. This has nothing to do with race. You have to realize how controversial this plan really is.

I know firsthand that when we first went to Iraq there was probably just as much civilian outrage against the decision then as there is against a public option now, only the Iraq protestors weren't thrust into the spotlight by news corporations like the health care ones have been. Also, there was a LOT of outrage directed towards Bush not about the decision to go to war but how to pay for it. Politicians on both sides of the aisle spoke out about the cost, but again I don't remember any of them heckling him about it during a session of congress.

As for being rude, like I said I have never before seen a President get this kind of reception from congress duringa public address. Dems may have hated Bush, but at least we were civil about it.

Controversial is a funny term. It's very subjective and right now you're basically using it to fit your own definitions of certain events. Is health care any more controversial than going to war? No, in fact I think a pretty strong argument can be made that the latter is a more radical decision.

I'm not saying that their weren't people against going to war or that that decision wasn't controversial. I was speaking specifically to the fact that Bush had more support from both parties than Obama does for his plan. Basically, I was just arguing against Mgamers assertion that this has to do with race as opposed to the issue at hand.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]I know that I will be attacked for this but. Why would they treat someone so bad? They never treated Bush so bad and he almost destroyed the country. Sorry OT from now on im playing the race card.Oblivionfan10

[QUOTE="theone86"]

I thought it was a pretty raccous speech overall considering almost everyone in attendance was a politician. Even with Bush I remember silence and a refusal to applaud, but I've never before seen an address to congress with such jeering. I also thought it was pretty funny how just about every Republican gave a standing ovation to malpractice reform but didn't do so for even the issues which were thought to be bi-partisan and not championed by any specific party. And then there was the dunce who gave the Republican reply. Obama comes out in support of ideas like malpractice reform and interstate insurance markets and the first words out of this guy's mouth are, "The President said he doesn't support malpractice reform and interstate insurance markets." Way to show that you're paying attention to this whole debate.

TBoogy

Yeah, I thought the Republican rebuttal was dumb too, but I am sure I am viewed as "biased".

Well, I mean tow the line if you must, but Obama came out and said many times that he wanted to stop the lies and half-truths, then he came out and made a large effort to acknowledge these Republican ideas, then the first thing this guy says is that he not only didn't mention them but didn't support them. It's just like, weren't you paying attention at all?

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Lindsosaurus"]

Both Democrats and Republicans voted to go to Iraq. It wasn't an unpopular idea until we realized there were no weapons of mass destruction (and really I am sure there were democratic congressmen who were just as rude to Bush, it just wasnt televised)....Obama's healthcare plan is an extremely polarizing idea. This has nothing to do with race. You have to realize how controversial this plan really is.

People never treated Bush bad?

You can put the race card away now.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]To clear up any confusion. Yes Obama has socialist ideas... No he is not a socialist. May be confusing, but tis true.chessmaster1989

Indeed, that would be an accurate assessment... but, then again, anyone who supports public education, the police force, and firefighters supports socialist ideas...

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"]To clear up any confusion. Yes Obama has socialist ideas... No he is not a socialist. May be confusing, but tis true.Oblivionfan10

Indeed, that would be an accurate assessment... but, then again, anyone who supports public education, the police force, and firefighters supports socialist ideas...

I do...

Oblivionfan10 is a socialist! :x

[QUOTE="Lindsosaurus"]

[QUOTE="its_me_"]

Actually there were weapons of mass destruction. There were 3 megaton nuclear bombs, and I saw them with my own eyes when I was deployed to Iraq with an ST unit in 2005. Unfortunately, only 4 and 5 megaton nuclear bombs count technically as 'weapons of mass destruction.' So, rather than reporting what I've just told you, MSNBC, NBC, CNN, ABC, CBS, and the rest of the anti-conservative news outlets reported that we found none, and then called Bush a liar. They obviously succeeded in convincing a lot of people.

theone86

To be fair, you can add fox news to that list, because that's where I heard it from. Regardless, my point still stands. It was a bipartisan decision and the controversy didn't come until after it was reported that they didn't "technically" have weapons of mass destruction.

Anyways, on a side note, thank you for your service to our country. :)

No, people were saying before we ever invaded that there were no WMD's, or at least no evidence to support that conclusion. They also made the case that the war was going to cost more money than we could afford, those arguments just didn't gain traction until AFTER we had already committed our troops and the war started going downhill. And there was ALWAYS a large civilian resistance against the wars in both Iraq and Afghanistan.

Civilian resistance yes, but CONGRESS voted to go to Iraq...Both republicans and Democrats, of course there were congressmen who were against it but considering it passed with bipartisan votes, that suggests there wasn't quite as much resistance to it as their is to this healthcare plan

OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*MgamerBD

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*Oblivionfan10

I think debating over which of them is/was treated worse is a completely pointless debate... >_>

OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*MgamerBD

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*battlefront23

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*battlefront23

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] Im not gonna lie to you. I have not read anything on it yet (I like to tell the truth). But I was talking about the behavior both inside and out of Congress. Comparing Obama to the AntiChrist, Parents taking their kids out of school to dodge a get back to school speech, Calling him a socialist. The list goes on....MgamerBD

People never treated Bush bad

You can put the race card away now.

Honestly, give me a break. I only posted 4 pictures because it proved my point; do you want me to post 1,000 photos? Because I could. People called Bush the anti-Christ all the time. This is nothing new.

List me the things Bush did in his first 9 months. Go, do it. Give up yet? He didn't do half the things Obama has so far. It has nothing to do with race and the fact that you believe it does is pathetic.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

People never treated Bush bad

You can put the race card away now.

limpbizkit818

Honestly, give me a break. I only posted 4 pictures because it proved my point; do you want me to post 1,000 photos? Because I could. People called Bush the anti-Christ all the time. This is nothing new.

List me the things Bush did in his first 9 months. Go, do it. Give up yet? He didn't do half the things Obama has so far. It has nothing to do with race and the fact that you believe it does is pathetic.

[QUOTE="Oblivionfan10"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*chessmaster1989

I think debating over which of them is/was treated worse is a completely pointless debate... >_>

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

People never treated Bush bad

You can put the race card away now.

limpbizkit818

Honestly, give me a break. I only posted 4 pictures because it proved my point; do you want me to post 1,000 photos? Because I could. People called Bush the anti-Christ all the time. This is nothing new.

List me the things Bush did in his first 9 months. Go, do it. Give up yet? He didn't do half the things Obama has so far. It has nothing to do with race and the fact that you believe it does is pathetic.

That being said, it's fairly presumptive to state without any corroborating evidence that it has nothing to do with race...

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] OMG 4 pics compared to a guy 9 months in election and is being bashed by the media everyday. You win *sarcasm*mfacek

Honestly, give me a break. I only posted 4 pictures because it proved my point; do you want me to post 1,000 photos? Because I could. People called Bush the anti-Christ all the time. This is nothing new.

List me the things Bush did in his first 9 months. Go, do it. Give up yet? He didn't do half the things Obama has so far. It has nothing to do with race and the fact that you believe it does is pathetic.

thats b/c our president is a liar...a month ago he said 40 something million people will be covered and tonight its down to 30 milll...do you know why? b/c the previous number included illegal aliens as covered by the insurence program...that why he called hima liar...i give him credit for calling the pres out...b/c no one will

[QUOTE="mfacek"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

Honestly, give me a break. I only posted 4 pictures because it proved my point; do you want me to post 1,000 photos? Because I could. People called Bush the anti-Christ all the time. This is nothing new.

List me the things Bush did in his first 9 months. Go, do it. Give up yet? He didn't do half the things Obama has so far. It has nothing to do with race and the fact that you believe it does is pathetic.

limpbizkit818

You know people, in some ways Obama did lie or go back on promises (which politicians do) and in other ways he's telling the truth (from what we know).

thats b/c our president is a liar...a month ago he said 40 something million people will be covered and tonight its down to 30 milll...do you know why? b/c the previous number included illegal aliens as covered by the insurence program...that why he called hima liar...i give him credit for calling the pres out...b/c no one will

KDIDDY78

After seeing Pelosi's reaction: anyone else think she's going to sneak into that congressman's home tonight and strangle him in his sleep??

Aww man I made this thread worse :(. Damn you politics :cry:MgamerBD

It makes use turn on eachother. We're suppose to be a family. That's it, give me a hug :oops:

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Aww man I made this thread worse :(. Damn you politics :cry:limpbizkit818

It makes use turn on eachother. We're suppose to be a family. That's it, give me a hug :oops:

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Aww man I made this thread worse :(. Damn you politics :cry:MgamerBD

It makes use turn on eachother. We're suppose to be a family. That's it, give me a hug :oops:

Nahhh... it's the kool-aid I passed around at the beginning of this thread. :D

Apparently I didn't give limpbizkit a large enough dose. :(

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]Aww man I made this thread worse :(. Damn you politics :cry:MgamerBD

It makes use turn on eachother. We're suppose to be a family. That's it, give me a hug :oops:

lol :lol:

After seeing Pelosi's reaction: anyone else think she's going to sneak into that congressman's home tonight and strangle him in his sleep??

elblanquito_81

...with her legs.

You know people, in some ways Obama did lie or go back on promises (which politicians do) and in other ways he's telling the truth (from what we know).

On3ShotOneKill

No President ever lives up to their promise, but I agree with you on this one. Obama was my guy after John Edwards dropped out (poor guy...:cry:), but now he keeps wanting to work witrh Republicans when the conservatives did absolutely nothing during the 8 years Bush was in power, and back during the Reagan/Bush 41 era it was just as bad. Obama has a mandate to rule, and he should be moving us forward, or else we're going to get some lackluster legislation that doesn't solve anything and will be endlessly criticized by the conservatives/Libertarians.

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Somebody throws a shoe at Bush; GS users than make a gif of it.

Somebody yells liar to Obama; GS users get offended.

I see a pattern here.

Even if he was a Congressman, it was just a comment.

battlefront23

Dude... you gotta admit it was pretty badass the way Bush dodged that shoe. :P

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

It makes use turn on eachother. We're suppose to be a family. That's it, give me a hug :oops:

Nahhh... it's the kool-aid I passed around at the beginning of this thread. :D

Apparently I didn't give limpbizkit a large enough dose. :(

Whether you like the Obama or not, he's the president, just let him talk.

*hugs* I'm sorry limpbizkit everytime I hear Obama I get into a trance...it must be brainwashing :o :PMgamerBD

It's fine to be passionate about a subject. I have a few that get me going as well :)

Nahhh... it's the kool-aid I passed around at the beginning of this thread. :D

Apparently I didn't give limpbizkit a large enough dose. :(

MgamerBD

How dare you try to poison me :evil: Every time we are in the same thread I am going to have to have someone test drink my kool-aid.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] *hugs* I'm sorry limpbizkit everytime I hear Obama I get into a trance...it must be brainwashing :o :Plimpbizkit818

It's fine to be passionate about a subject. I have a few that get me going as well :)

Nahhh... it's the kool-aid I passed around at the beginning of this thread. :D

Apparently I didn't give limpbizkit a large enough dose. :(

MgamerBD

How dare you try to posion me :evil: Every time we are in the same thread I am going to have to have someone test drink my kool-aid.

Second quote is misattributed, was said by me. :P

But, anyway, how about some beer to get over our differences? Here's a bottle for you. Don't worry, it's safe.

:D

*hugs* I'm sorry limpbizkit everytime I hear Obama I get into a trance...it must be brainwashing :o :PMgamerBD

It's fine to be passionate about a subject. I have a few that get me going as well :)

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]

Nahhh... it's the kool-aid I passed around at the beginning of this thread. :D

Apparently I didn't give limpbizkit a large enough dose. :(

How dare you try to poison me :evil: Every time we are in the same thread I am going to have to have someone test drink my kool-aid.

Whether you like the Obama or not, he's the president, just let him talk.

Cutekitten6_18

Republicans sure are showing how classy they are.

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]

It's fine to be passionate about a subject. I have a few that get me going as well :)

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"]

Nahhh... it's the kool-aid I passed around at the beginning of this thread. :D

Apparently I didn't give limpbizkit a large enough dose. :(

chessmaster1989

How dare you try to posion me :evil: Every time we are in the same thread I am going to have to have someone test drink my kool-aid.

Second quote is misattributed, was said by me. :P

But, anyway, how about some beer to get over our differences? Here's a bottle for you. Don't worry, it's safe.

:D

Dam, I just got a new laptop and it took me an hour to copy and paste that post together. What happens after all that time? I spell poison wrong and mix the quotes ups. This laptop pad is annoying; I'll definitely take some beer: better be Corona 8)

[QUOTE="elblanquito_81"]

After seeing Pelosi's reaction: anyone else think she's going to sneak into that congressman's home tonight and strangle him in his sleep??

StrawberryHill

...with her legs.

Just looking at her face makes me think she's going, "Did... did he just yell something out in the middle of the president's speech? In my Congress? Somebody gonna get hurt real bad tonight."

[QUOTE="chessmaster1989"]

[QUOTE="limpbizkit818"]

How dare you try to posion me :evil: Every time we are in the same thread I am going to have to have someone test drink my kool-aid.

limpbizkit818

Second quote is misattributed, was said by me. :P

But, anyway, how about some beer to get over our differences? Here's a bottle for you. Don't worry, it's safe.

:D

Dam, I just got a new laptop and it took me an hour to copy and paste that post together. What happens after all that time? I spell poison wrong and mix the quotes ups. This laptop pad is annoying; I'll definitely take some beer: better be Corona 8)

Woo okay here you go. Like I said, it's totally safe. Trust me.

:D