Congressman shouts "Liar" to Pres. Obama during speech to nation

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#351 fillini
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[QUOTE="Jd1680a"]Maybe Joe Wilson got paid by the health insurance companies to say "Liar" to the president.duxup

Maybe he used to be an immigration lawyer and he knows EXACTLY how the bill is going to play out in real life and was fed up with Obama's b.s.

Being an migration lawyer does not provide clairvoyance on the legislature.

Clairvoyance? He practice immigration law. huh i think that might qualify him to comment on the legal aspects of the bill. More so than the other yahoos out there. It not clairvoyance, its called experience.

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#352 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="fillini"] Maybe he used to be an immigration lawyer and he knows EXACTLY how the bill is going to play out in real life and was fed up with Obama's b.s.

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Being an migration lawyer does not provide clairvoyance on the legislature.

Clairvoyance? He practice immigration law. huh i think that might qualify him to comment on the legal aspects of the bill. More so than the other yahoos out there. It not clairvoyance, its called experience.

A bill not yet finished? Or the proposed bills that specifically note illegal immigrants don't get the benefits? Nobody with any political knowledge seriously thinks illegal immigrants would be provided those benefits. Even Wilson.
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Maybe Joe Wilson got paid by the health insurance companies to say "Liar" to the president.Jd1680a
they wouldnt do it directly they have smaller special interest and lobbysistsdo the paying
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#354 fillini
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[QUOTE="fillini"]

[QUOTE="duxup"] Being an migration lawyer does not provide clairvoyance on the legislature.duxup

Clairvoyance? He practice immigration law. huh i think that might qualify him to comment on the legal aspects of the bill. More so than the other yahoos out there. It not clairvoyance, its called experience.

A bill not yet finished? Or the proposed bills that specifically note illegal immigrants don't get the benefits? Nobody with any political knowledge seriously thinks illegal immigrants would be provided those benefits. Even Wilson.

"nobody with any political knowledge" your kidding. There is NOT a way to CHECK the citizen status of anyone that applies in the bill currently. Your making a hollow agruement if you think just because the bill says it shouldn't happen it won't.

Heck, with that lets pass a bill out-lawing murder and rape. I'm sure no body is going to break those laws because they are not aloud. Of course we won't added in any way to enforce such a bill but of course the legal abidding rapists and murders wouldn't think of taking advantage of such a situation.

And no, I'm not saying Illegals are rapists and murders, but they have broken the law to get here and if they can get more for free, with no risk of enforcement then why not.

And, we are talking about the proposed bill. Unless, you want to talk about all the proposed bills the last 20 years that were presented.

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#356 Hot-Tamale
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whatever liberals and conservatives need to leave the white house, we need to reform this country and stop this political playhouse we have now

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Liberals haven't been in power since FDR. If you call Obama or Clinton liberals, you are sorely mistaken. Even JFK and LBJ made big deals with Republicans, and were uncompromising on foreign policy issues.

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#357 duxup
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[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="fillini"] Clairvoyance? He practice immigration law. huh i think that might qualify him to comment on the legal aspects of the bill. More so than the other yahoos out there. It not clairvoyance, its called experience.

fillini

A bill not yet finished? Or the proposed bills that specifically note illegal immigrants don't get the benefits? Nobody with any political knowledge seriously thinks illegal immigrants would be provided those benefits. Even Wilson.

"nobody with any political knowledge" your kidding. There is NOT a way to CHECK the citizen status of anyone that applies in the bill currently. Your making a hollow agruement if you think just because the bill says it shouldn't happen it won't.

Heck, with that lets pass a bill out-lawing murder and rape. I'm sure no body is going to break those laws because they are not aloud. Of course we won't added in any way to enforce such a bill but of course the legal abidding rapists and murders wouldn't think of taking advantage of such a situation.

And no, I'm not saying Illegals are rapists and murders, but they have broken the law to get here and if they can get more for free, with no risk of enforcement then why not.

And, we are talking about the proposed bill. Unless, you want to talk about all the proposed bills the last 20 years that were presented.

Nobody passes a bill against murder saying there won't be any. The issue is what the bill says, and Wilson and anyone with a clue knows no bill would ever pass if illegal immigrants were allowed to get benefits.
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#358 Mordred19
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Next time I have a political discussion with my super-conservative dad, I'll interrupt him mid-sentence and say "YOU LIE!" :P I'm going to have to smile then or there would be problems.

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#359 Shattered007
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[QUOTE="fillini"]

[QUOTE="duxup"][QUOTE="fillini"] Clairvoyance? He practice immigration law. huh i think that might qualify him to comment on the legal aspects of the bill. More so than the other yahoos out there. It not clairvoyance, its called experience.

A bill not yet finished? Or the proposed bills that specifically note illegal immigrants don't get the benefits? Nobody with any political knowledge seriously thinks illegal immigrants would be provided those benefits. Even Wilson.

"nobody with any political knowledge" your kidding. There is NOT a way to CHECK the citizen status of anyone that applies in the bill currently. Your making a hollow agruement if you think just because the bill says it shouldn't happen it won't.

Heck, with that lets pass a bill out-lawing murder and rape. I'm sure no body is going to break those laws because they are not aloud. Of course we won't added in any way to enforce such a bill but of course the legal abidding rapists and murders wouldn't think of taking advantage of such a situation.

And no, I'm not saying Illegals are rapists and murders, but they have broken the law to get here and if they can get more for free, with no risk of enforcement then why not.

And, we are talking about the proposed bill. Unless, you want to talk about all the proposed bills the last 20 years that were presented.

So, since there might be a way to cheat the system they shouldn't make it into law? What kinda Glen beck logic is that?
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#360 Bourbons3
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not gonna read through all the pages of this thread, so hopefully someone has mentioned this:

what if obama IS lying??

useLOGIC
It would become pretty obvious if the system did cover illegal immigrants, so he'd be committing political suicide by lying about it. And the guy should have objected in a more appropriate way than just heckling Obama during a speech.