Democratic Congresswoman Shot @ public event

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#1 Fuhgeddabouditt
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Click here for more info as the news updates http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/us_usa_shooting_congresswoman

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#2 deactivated-5a84f3399aa1c
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I'll get the Jump to Conclusions mat.
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#3 weezyfb
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im guessing she was the target
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And everyone had been clamoring that Obama was going to get assassinated when he got elected....

May she R.I.P. and I hope the casualties are minimal and end here.

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She is still alive (barely) and going into surgery. The info that she was dead was bad.

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Well that sucks. Sorry to hear this.
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#8 Wasdie  Moderator
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Did they get the guy who did it?

He needs to be dealt with...

It's one thing to protest against politics you don't like, and another to kill a politican.

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Did they get the guy who did it?

He needs to be dealt with...

Wasdie
Yes, he was tackled and arrested.
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#10 Fuhgeddabouditt
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She is still alive (barely) and going into surgery. The info that she was dead was bad.

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link so I can update?
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#11 stanleycup98
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[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

She is still alive (barely) and going into surgery. The info that she was dead was bad.

Fuhgeddabouditt

link so I can update?

There is no internet link yet, but the Arizona Sheriff and a hospital rep just called into MSNBC and told them that she was still alive.

EDIT: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/40978612#40978612

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#12 Fuhgeddabouditt
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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"][QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

She is still alive (barely) and going into surgery. The info that she was dead was bad.

stanleycup98
link so I can update?

There is no internet link yet, but the Arizona Sheriff and a hospital rep just called into MSNBC and told them that she was still alive.

you're correct. Updated 3 mins ago.
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#13 Sp4rtan_3
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She's still alive but a gun shot to the head is pretty hard to survive through :( This is sad for every american, no matter what political alliance you have.
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#14 stanleycup98
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[QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"][QUOTE="stanleycup98"][QUOTE="Fuhgeddabouditt"] link so I can update?

There is no internet link yet, but the Arizona Sheriff and a hospital rep just called into MSNBC and told them that she was still alive.

you're correct. Updated 3 mins ago.

Here is the link from MSNBC: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/40978612#40978612
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#15 lamprey263
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I woke up and turned on the news, they were saying she was dead, that she was shot in the head, but now they say she's alive and in surgery... better news I guess all things considered, I also hear six people died originally then they said 5 then it was 4, heard the gunman fired 15 to 20 shots
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She's still alive but a gun shot to the head is pretty hard to survive through :( This is sad for every american, no matter what political alliance you have.Sp4rtan_3

Didn't a secret service agent get shot in the head protecting a president (I think Reagan, may be wrong) and survive?

Anyways, definitely glad to hear she is still alive. With any luck she could make a recovery. You would be surprised at what people can survive.

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Did they get the guy who did it?

He needs to be dealt with...

It's one thing to protest against politics you don't like, and another to kill a politican.

Wasdie
Exactly, as heated as American politics can get, there are lines that never, ever get crossed. An assassination attempt or a successful one is an abhorrent tragedy, no matter what.
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#18 GenTom
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she's not dead.
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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]She's still alive but a gun shot to the head is pretty hard to survive through :( This is sad for every american, no matter what political alliance you have.LostProphetFLCL

Didn't a secret service agent get shot in the head protecting a president (I think Reagan, may be wrong) and survive?

Anyways, definitely glad to hear she is still alive. With any luck she could make a recovery. You would be surprised at what people can survive.

I hope she pulls through. I really hope this gunmen isn't some crazed Tea party far right wing nut job .
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CNN reports the suspect is a 21 year old male.

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[QUOTE="stanleycup98"]

She is still alive (barely) and going into surgery. The info that she was dead was bad.

Fuhgeddabouditt
link so I can update?

I say you just say that she was shot. I'm watching CNN right now and they're reporting that there are conflicting reports until they get something official.
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Did they get the guy who did it?

He needs to be dealt with...

It's one thing to protest against politics you don't like, and another to kill a politican.

MAILER_DAEMON

Exactly, as heated as American politics can get, there are lines that never, ever get crossed. An assassination attempt or a successful one is an abhorrent tragedy, no matter what.

Since I can't post on the thread I made...you're right, bringing politics into this so quickly without knowing many details was stupid/careless. Wasn't trying to troll though. >_>

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#23 stanleycup98
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CNN reports the suspect is a 21 year old male.

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Now that is a way to destroy your life...
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[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Did they get the guy who did it?

He needs to be dealt with...

It's one thing to protest against politics you don't like, and another to kill a politican.

MAILER_DAEMON
Exactly, as heated as American politics can get, there are lines that never, ever get crossed. An assassination attempt or a successful one is an abhorrent tragedy, no matter what.

EHH Assassinations seem to be a big part of politics. I hope she recovers.
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http://twitter.com/#!/BreakingNews/status/23830425583484928

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#26 deactivated-64b76bd048860
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Damn, hope she recovers.
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#27 fidosim
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Holy crap. Hope she and the others pull through alright. I don't think any sitting Rep. has been killed since Leo Ryan, who died at the Jonestown settlement in Guyana.
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[QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"][QUOTE="Wasdie"]

Did they get the guy who did it?

He needs to be dealt with...

It's one thing to protest against politics you don't like, and another to kill a politican.

POPEYE1716

Exactly, as heated as American politics can get, there are lines that never, ever get crossed. An assassination attempt or a successful one is an abhorrent tragedy, no matter what.

EHH Assassinations seem to be a big part of politics. I hope she recovers.

As far as I know only one other congress person has been killed outside of this woman (if she dies) and it was some guy jim jones cult killed.

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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"]She's still alive but a gun shot to the head is pretty hard to survive through :( This is sad for every american, no matter what political alliance you have.Sp4rtan_3

Didn't a secret service agent get shot in the head protecting a president (I think Reagan, may be wrong) and survive?

Anyways, definitely glad to hear she is still alive. With any luck she could make a recovery. You would be surprised at what people can survive.

I hope she pulls through. I really hope this gunmen isn't some crazed Tea party far right wing nut job .

Yeah I am really curious as to the full motives.

The way I see it, the guy is either some absolutely psychotic right-winger or a general anti-government psychopath.

And good GOD he is younger than me and shooting politicians?

Jesus Christ, if you are that PO'd about politics just start a freaking punk band or something....

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[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"][QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

Didn't a secret service agent get shot in the head protecting a president (I think Reagan, may be wrong) and survive?

Anyways, definitely glad to hear she is still alive. With any luck she could make a recovery. You would be surprised at what people can survive.

LostProphetFLCL

I hope she pulls through. I really hope this gunmen isn't some crazed Tea party far right wing nut job .

Yeah I am really curious as to the full motives.

The way I see it, the guy is either some absolutely psychotic right-winger or a general anti-government psychopath.

And good GOD he is younger than me and shooting politicians?

Jesus Christ, if you are that PO'd about politics just start a freaking punk band or something....

Sometimes you don't need amotive. He may be some psychotic right winger or anti-goverment psychopath. Or he could be a person who was metnally unsable and just snapped.

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This is beyond despicable. The would-be murderer needs to get prosecuted to the full extent of the law.
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This is very sad news. My heart goes out to her and her family.
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Sad news.:( Hope she and the others wounded get well.

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#35 fueled-system
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please dont use such a tragic event to bash another group :(

whatever your belief this is not justifiable

whatever mod deleted that message thank you

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I agree who heatedly with what Boehner said. An attack on one who serves is an attack on all that serve. Hopefully she pulls through and they punish the guy who did it.
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Very sad and infuriating news.

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[QUOTE="LostProphetFLCL"]

[QUOTE="Sp4rtan_3"] I hope she pulls through. I really hope this gunmen isn't some crazed Tea party far right wing nut job .Chaos_HL21

Yeah I am really curious as to the full motives.

The way I see it, the guy is either some absolutely psychotic right-winger or a general anti-government psychopath.

And good GOD he is younger than me and shooting politicians?

Jesus Christ, if you are that PO'd about politics just start a freaking punk band or something....

Sometimes you don't need amotive. He may be some psychotic right winger or anti-goverment psychopath. Or he could be a person who was metnally unsable and just snapped.

Anyone who goes and shoots someone like that is OBVIOUSLY mentally unstable.

Thing is, even the unstable have their motives and quite franly, anyone who is firing at politicians knows EXACTLY what they are doing.

It isn't like she randomly got shot in the street. She was attending a meeting and that guy showed up with a guy.

He definitely had a motive.

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Some real great people out there.
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Politics in America are stupid. Everyone has the us/them ideology, which only leads to violence. The sooner people realize we have more similarities than differences, and neither side wants to "destroy" the country, the sooner our government will become efficient and actually start looking out for the people.
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Politics in America are stupid. Everyone has the us/them ideology, which only leads to violence. The sooner people realize we have more similarities than differences, and neither side wants to "destroy" the country, the sooner our government will become efficient and actually start looking out for the people.Mousetaches

Politics EVERYWHERE are dumb. Politics in general is just stupid. It ALWAYS ends up being a party Vs. party mentality.

If you think it's bad here, keep in mind other countries have full out BRAWLS breakout occassionally during their congressional/whatever their technical term is meetings EVEN IN THIS DAY AND AGE!!!

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#42 GodzillavsXenu
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It's too easy, and human nature I think, to try and connect the dots before we know what the shooter's motivation was. The only thing I will say is I sure hope it was not politically motivated. That would just make an awful situation even worse. We'll see... I'll sure have a lot to say if it turns out to be. This is a huge deal, a federal judge has already died in the shooting as well...

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#43 cobrax55
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I know that no news media is ever going to report this. But this women was one of 20 on Palin's "target map"

http://www.alan.com/2010/03/24/palin-puts-gun-sighs-on-target-map-says-ti/

it has since been removed completly from Palin's site, but it seems likely that this shooting was politiclly motivated.

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#44 stanleycup98
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Giffords is out of surgery and alive.

Gunman is Jared Lee Loughner.

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[QUOTE="Chaos_HL21"]

Sometimes you don't need amotive. He may be some psychotic right winger or anti-goverment psychopath. Or he could be a person who was metnally unsable and just snapped.

LostProphetFLCL

Anyone who goes and shoots someone like that is OBVIOUSLY mentally unstable.

Thing is, even the unstable have their motives and quite franly, anyone who is firing at politicians knows EXACTLY what they are doing.

It isn't like she randomly got shot in the street. She was attending a meeting and that guy showed up with a guy.

He definitely had a motive.

Ok maybe saying they don't need a motive isn't right. I should of said a logical motive. Like Richard Lawrence, thought that he was King Richard III of England andthought that Andrew Jackson was keeping him from becoming King of England. He also thought that Jackson killed is father, but his father never been to the US, so he tried to kill President Jackson, only to have his two weapons misfire and got his butt caned by Jackson.

Or John Hinckley Jr. who tried to Kill President Reagan to impress Jodie Foster.

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Oswald strikes again!
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#49 flazzle
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Well, she is known to crackdown on illegal immigration, and if you ever watched the documentary 'Silver or Lead', this tactic isn't far from what they show what those gangs do.

But all in all, lets wait until we get more info before we speculate this to death wrongly.

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I think the bigger question is whether or not the film took place within in a dream itself. Consider this, in order to be asleep so long Cobb and his wife were probably under a sedative and in a Level 3 dream. Later in the movie it is explained that if you die in Level 3 under a sedative you enter Limbo where you can lose track of what is reality and what is a dream, and while in Level 3 both Copp and his wife are killed by a train, so shouldn't they both be in Limbo?

DarkGamer007

I don't know. I don't think it's the bigger question right now. I think the bigger question is if she'll live and who/why the gunman did what he did.

The movie was good, but I don't think it trumps this current event.