Do you believe the not guilty verdict for Zimmerman is just? UPDATE: NOT GUILTY

I think a black kid got killed, and the blacks are playing the racism card again.

I mean, blacks are whatever, they're just people, but it's gone the other way now, they have mor rights than whites, and play the victim ALL THE DAMN TIME.

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Care to explain why or is this racially motivated on your part? lostrib

How did he act out of self defense?  There needs to be a viable threat, which you have not shown their to be.  

I think a black kid got killed, and the blacks are playing the racism card again.

 

I mean, blacks are whatever, they're just people, but it's gone the other way now, they have mor rights than whites, and play the victim ALL THE DAMN TIME.

GOGOGOGURT

[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]He should have never tried to pursue Trayvon Martin in the first place. Especially when the police said exactly not to. Put his ass in jail. He shot a kid who acted out of being threatened. Trayvon was the real character acting out of self defense.MgamerBD

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

I think a black kid got killed, and the blacks are playing the racism card again.

 

I mean, blacks are whatever, they're just people, but it's gone the other way now, they have mor rights than whites, and play the victim ALL THE DAMN TIME.

Person0

And I'm not racist.  Probably gonna get accused of that anyway.

[QUOTE="awptical"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"]He should have never tried to pursue Trayvon Martin in the first place. Especially when the police said exactly not to. Put his ass in jail. He shot a kid who acted out of being threatened. Trayvon was the real character acting out of self defense.MgamerBD

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="Commander-Gree"] I don't buy that Trayvon was acting out of self defense when all evidence points to him being the one who initiated physical contact. If it had been the other way around, then this case would be completely different in my eyes. As to Zimmerman pursuing him, no he should not have been, but according to Zimmerman he was on his way back to his car when Trayvon attacked him. Commander-Gree

and if it's to be believed that Zimmerman lost track of Martin.  Why not just go home then?

[QUOTE="Person0"]

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

I think a black kid got killed, and the blacks are playing the racism card again.

 

I mean, blacks are whatever, they're just people, but it's gone the other way now, they have mor rights than whites, and play the victim ALL THE DAMN TIME.

GOGOGOGURT

And I'm not racist.  Probably gonna get accused of that anyway.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Person0"] Ummm......yeah.....

 

 

 

Person0

And I'm not racist.  Probably gonna get accused of that anyway.

[QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

[QUOTE="Person0"] Ummm......yeah.....

 

 

 

Person0

And I'm not racist.  Probably gonna get accused of that anyway.

what if he has "black friends"

[QUOTE="FuggaJ"]

[QUOTE="awptical"] [QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]I can't say for sure since I wasn't there, but from the evidence that I've seen (especially the wounds to Zimmerman's head) it seems to me that Trayvon was the aggressor or at least aggressive and Zimmerman probably shot in what he thought was self-defense. All around it is an unfortunate situation and I don't think Zimmerman should have pursued Trayvon to the extent that he did, but I don't think he is guilty of murder. Commander-Gree

The biggest problem with this case is that the media sensationalized it from the start before all of the facts came out and most people had already made up their minds.  Those pictures of Zimmerman's wounds weren't even released until months after the event and from what I remember we didn't realize the extent of the physical confrontation until then.  

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Care to explain why or is this racially motivated on your part? BMD004

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] I'm pretty sure I explained why in my post. But I'll do it again for you. If someone confronts you in the middle of the night for no reason at all what would you do? Especially a creepy guy who looks like a fat felon in the first place. Trayvon acted out of self defense. Out of the fight and flight circumstance his body chose fight. He was a young kid, immature had a lot to live for. This grown man had no excuse to take immature vigilante action.MgamerBD

then that would be exactly the problem. Reasonable doubt.  

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

And I'm not racist.  Probably gonna get accused of that anyway.

lostrib

what if he has "black friends"

I don't have black friends actually, I'm ruined.

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

And I'm not racist.  Probably gonna get accused of that anyway.

lostrib

what if he has "black friends"

How is it self defense if Zimmerman decided to act as the police? He was being a vigilante and got in over his head. He used a gun in a fist fight. In spite of any racists words that occurred between the two individuals, heard or not, the boy is dead due to an overzealous man who went into that situation with little to no information about the individual.chicknfeet

if the kid punched him and then continued to slam his head against the ground while telling him he was going to die tonight.  That would seem like sufficient grounds for self defense

[QUOTE="Person0"][QUOTE="GOGOGOGURT"]

 

And I'm not racist.  Probably gonna get accused of that anyway.

lostrib

what if he has "black friends"

:lol:

God, I needed a good laugh right now

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Person0"] Whenever someone has to say "and i'm not racist" about their comments then they're probably racist.GOGOGOGURT

what if he has "black friends"

I don't have black friends actually, I'm ruined.

oh, then you might actually not be racist

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] I'm pretty sure I explained why in my post. But I'll do it again for you. If someone confronts you in the middle of the night for no reason at all what would you do? Especially a creepy guy who looks like a fat felon in the first place. Trayvon acted out of self defense. Out of the fight and flight circumstance his body chose fight. He was a young kid, immature had a lot to live for. This grown man had no excuse to take immature vigilante action.TheWalkingGhost

How did he act out of self defense?  There needs to be a viable threat, which you have not shown their to be.  

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] I'm pretty sure I explained why in my post. But I'll do it again for you. If someone confronts you in the middle of the night for no reason at all what would you do? Especially a creepy guy who looks like a fat felon in the first place. Trayvon acted out of self defense. Out of the fight and flight circumstance his body chose fight. He was a young kid, immature had a lot to live for. This grown man had no excuse to take immature vigilante action.MgamerBD

And you came to this conclusion how?  And he is barely even a "kid", at the age of 17.  

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] You didn't say how this was self defense. And if somebody confronted me in the middle of the night I wouldn't attack him or in anyway provoke him. Doing so would be stupid and dangerous, more so if I had no idea what he wanted. I also would be a fool who judged based on how he looked, and unless zimmerman attacked him first this is not self defense. You have yet to prove he acted out of self defense, because you have to prove zimmerman attacked him and being approached is no reason to act out violently. Chutebox

yeah martin was taller. 5' 11" vs 5' 8"

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

How did he act out of self defense?  There needs to be a viable threat, which you have not shown their to be.  

MgamerBD

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"] Some dude approached him, nuff said. :roll:TheWalkingGhost

also is 7:30 really the middle of the night.

Hope they lock that fvcker up. He never should have hunted down the kid like he was a criminal. Capitan_Kid

If only that was what happened

[QUOTE="Chutebox"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] That pacifism in your eyes is strong isn't it. I gave you my reason. Point is we don't know what was said during the confrontation. But I'm sure it was provoked. I don't understand why you are defending a grown man killing a kid in the first place. Its disgusting..lostrib

yeah martin was taller. 5' 11" vs 5' 8"

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"][QUOTE="MgamerBD"] That pacifism in your eyes is strong isn't it. I gave you my reason. Point is we don't know what was said during the confrontation. But I'm sure it was provoked. I don't understand why you are defending a grown man killing a kid in the first place. Its disgusting..MgamerBD

unless what zimmerman says is true

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] I thought that "kid" was bigger than Zim? sucks to say it, but saying he was a teen today means nothing with how they act and how big teens are.MgamerBD

yeah martin was taller. 5' 11" vs 5' 8"

zimmerman weighed more

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] I'm pretty sure I explained why in my post. But I'll do it again for you. If someone confronts you in the middle of the night for no reason at all what would you do? Especially a creepy guy who looks like a fat felon in the first place. Trayvon acted out of self defense. Out of the fight and flight circumstance his body chose fight. He was a young kid, immature had a lot to live for. This grown man had no excuse to take immature vigilante action.MgamerBD

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="BMD004"]You don't know what happened.

 

BMD004

unlike the rest of the public, which has already found Zimmerman guilty

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="Chutebox"] I thought that "kid" was bigger than Zim? sucks to say it, but saying he was a teen today means nothing with how they act and how big teens are.MgamerBD

yeah martin was taller. 5' 11" vs 5' 8"

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

yeah martin was taller. 5' 11" vs 5' 8"

BMD004

well and if it's true that martin struck first, which brought Zimmerman to the ground, the weight difference is not going to help a lot unless zimmerman is an experienced grappler or something

[QUOTE="TheWalkingGhost"]:roll: Continue making assumptions son, we all know that is all you got, that a narrow worldview. You can't counter what is thrown against you, and that is obvious. You didn't need to mention race, your racism is more than implied.VanHelsingBoA64

I mean, blacks are whatever, they're just people, but it's gone the other way now, they have mor rights than whites, and play the victim ALL THE DAMN TIME.GOGOGOGURT

yeah, someone already called gogurt a racist

[QUOTE="BMD004"]

[QUOTE="MgamerBD"] Weight is the biggest factor when it comes to being big. Not height.lostrib

well and if it's true that martin struck first, which brought Zimmerman to the ground, the weight difference is not going to help a lot unless zimmerman is an experienced grappler or something

[QUOTE="chicknfeet"]How is it self defense if Zimmerman decided to act as the police? He was being a vigilante and got in over his head. He used a gun in a fist fight. In spite of any racists words that occurred between the two individuals, heard or not, the boy is dead due to an overzealous man who went into that situation with little to no information about the individual.lostrib

if the kid punched him and then continued to slam his head against the ground while telling him he was going to die tonight.  That would seem like sufficient grounds for self defense