Obviously the NSA should release the cellphone conversation rather than relying on what the witness says was said.Ace6301That might be of some aid.
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[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]Zimmerman picked a fight, got his head bashed in, then killed a teenage when he realized he was losing. If I realized someone was following me at night of all times, you think I'm going to put on my most polite face, walk up to him and ask him why he's following me? F*ckery. Trayvon felt threatened as he fought back, and he lost his life because Zimmerman was a piss poor fighter.Shottayouth13-This assumes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact, which isn't supported by the evidence. Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do?
Not ****ing assualt them.
This assumes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact, which isn't supported by the evidence. Commander-GreeI'm seeing some mixed evidence. Witnesses seem to favour Martins side of things with statements like: "Manalo testified that she saw two people on the ground struggling. After the shooting, Manalo told investigators that she could not identify who they were or their gender. But on the stand Manalo was certain that the bigger of the two people was on top of the smaller-framed person, and that after the shooting, the larger of the two got up." The autopsy seems to favour Zimmerman since there wasn't a lot of physical harm to Martin (beside the gunshot obviously). Though the initial physical interaction would have possibly been something like grabbing at a shirt prompting a reaction. If Manalo's testimony is true then Zimmerman was not in danger at the time and thus it was murder.
Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do?[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Commander-Gree"] This assumes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact, which isn't supported by the evidence. dercoo
Not ****ing assualt them.
Well that's you. I'd probably fight. So you're telling me that I deserve to lose my life (with no repercussions) because some little f*ck was playing hero and threatened me with his stalking?[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]This assumes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact, which isn't supported by the evidence. Ace6301I'm seeing some mixed evidence. Witnesses seem to favour Martins side of things with statements like: "Manalo testified that she saw two people on the ground struggling. After the shooting, Manalo told investigators that she could not identify who they were or their gender. But on the stand Manalo was certain that the bigger of the two people was on top of the smaller-framed person, and that after the shooting, the larger of the two got up." The autopsy seems to favour Zimmerman since there wasn't a lot of physical harm to Martin (beside the gunshot obviously). Though the initial physical interaction would have possibly been something like grabbing at a shirt prompting a reaction. If Manalo's testimony is true then Zimmerman was not in danger at the time and thus it was murder. Yeah, but that testimony doesn't necessarily contradict Zimmerman because he claims that after the gun went off that Martin sat up right and then Zimmerman got on top of him and pinned him down by his wrist to restrain him, not knowing he was dead at this point.
We are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="Commander-Gree"]This assumes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact, which isn't supported by the evidence. Commander-GreeI'm seeing some mixed evidence. Witnesses seem to favour Martins side of things with statements like: "Manalo testified that she saw two people on the ground struggling. After the shooting, Manalo told investigators that she could not identify who they were or their gender. But on the stand Manalo was certain that the bigger of the two people was on top of the smaller-framed person, and that after the shooting, the larger of the two got up." The autopsy seems to favour Zimmerman since there wasn't a lot of physical harm to Martin (beside the gunshot obviously). Though the initial physical interaction would have possibly been something like grabbing at a shirt prompting a reaction. If Manalo's testimony is true then Zimmerman was not in danger at the time and thus it was murder. Yeah, but that testimony doesn't necessarily contradict Zimmerman because he claims that after the gun went off that Martin sat up right and then Zimmerman got on top of him and pinned him down by his wrist to restrain him, not knowing he was dead at this point. He sat up right? What? But according to Zimmerman Martin was on top, right? That doesn't make any sense to me. If the larger of the two got up then it wasn't Martin as he was dead at that point.
Oh wow, and Zimmerman is a f*cking saint now? http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/ http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-killer-had-brushes-prior-153033731.htmlWe are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
willtsherman
In my opinion Martin doesn't have to be a saint for Zimmerman to feel some recoil from being an entirely non-decent human being. That's just me though.We are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
willtsherman
[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"]Zimmerman picked a fight, got his head bashed in, then killed a teenage when he realized he was losing. If I realized someone was following me at night of all times, you think I'm going to put on my most polite face, walk up to him and ask him why he's following me? F*ckery. Trayvon felt threatened as he fought back, and he lost his life because Zimmerman was a piss poor fighter.Shottayouth13-This assumes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact, which isn't supported by the evidence. Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do? I always try to avoid physical confrontations. So no, I would not have thrown a single punch unless the other man started it.
[QUOTE="willtsherman"]Oh wow, and Zimmerman is a f*cking saint now? http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/ http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-killer-had-brushes-prior-153033731.htmlWe are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
Shottayouth13-
Not at all, you're putting words in my message. A lot of people believe that he was killed in cold blood by an evil white monster. Plenty of people think he was a saint. Alll I said was that this might indicate what Trayvon may have been like. You're welcome to read my post again if I called Zimmerman a saint, it's not like it will go away.
[QUOTE="Commander-Gree"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do?BranKetraIf I was threatened and I was as close to home as Trayvon was then I would have ran home. I certainly wouldn't have attacked somebody before they explained their self if I wasn't looking for a fight. You are criticising Trayvon Martin's fight or flight response.The fight or flight response just prepares your body for action. It doesn't make you want to fight or want to run. That's up to you.Â
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It's not an excuse.
Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do? I always try to avoid physical confrontations. So no, I would not have thrown a single punch unless the other man started it. That's you. Everybody's different. Fight or flight, it's what adrenaline does. Trayvon fought.[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Commander-Gree"] This assumes that Zimmerman initiated physical contact, which isn't supported by the evidence. Chutebox
[QUOTE="willtsherman"]In my opinion Martin doesn't have to be a saint for Zimmerman to feel some recoil from being an entirely non-decent human being. That's just me though.Martin being a saint has nothing to do whether or not he deserved to die or if Zimmerman killed in cold blood. It gives insight on what he may be like. We have heard from plenty of blind people that Trayvon is some sweet innocent little boy. It gives thought on what Trayvon may or may not did during the fateful night.We are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
FuggaJ
[QUOTE="willtsherman"]Oh wow, and Zimmerman is a f*cking saint now? http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/ http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-killer-had-brushes-prior-153033731.html No one has to prove Zimmerman was a saint. If they did, then it'd be easy to prove Trayvon was a sinner as he flashed his rebellion in photos like this, Trayvon Martin was not an innocent little kid.We are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
Shottayouth13-
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]I always try to avoid physical confrontations. So no, I would not have thrown a single punch unless the other man started it. That's you. Everybody's different. Fight or flight, it's what adrenaline does. Trayvon fought. Correct, so why ask the question?[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do?Shottayouth13-
[QUOTE="Chutebox"]I always try to avoid physical confrontations. So no, I would not have thrown a single punch unless the other man started it. That's you. Everybody's different. Fight or flight, it's what adrenaline does. Trayvon fought.Fight or flight doesn't make you see red and want to fight. That is a choice. Fight or flight is what they call the adrenaline dump that prepares your body for physical action... whether that is running, fighting, doing cartwheels, or whatever.[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do?Shottayouth13-
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If he fought, it had nothing to do with the fight or flight response.
You are criticising Trayvon Martin's fight or flight response.The fight or flight response just prepares your body for action. It doesn't make you want to fight or want to run. That's up to you.Â[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Commander-Gree"] If I was threatened and I was as close to home as Trayvon was then I would have ran home. I certainly wouldn't have attacked somebody before they explained their self if I wasn't looking for a fight.BMD004
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It's not an excuse.
Whether or not the fight or flight response affects cognition is debatable, so it might be a reason for Trayvon Martin's actions. http://www.phoenix.edu/forward/perspectives/2012/10/5-ways-fight-or-flight-shapes-your-decisions.html[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="Commander-Gree"] If I was threatened and I was as close to home as Trayvon was then I would have ran home. I certainly wouldn't have attacked somebody before they explained their self if I wasn't looking for a fight.Commander-GreeYou are criticising Trayvon Martin's fight or flight response. Are you not criticizing Zimmerman's after he was attacked? I was not there, so I do not know the truth of the events for certain. Criticising either side would be somewhat presumptuous.
[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]Oh wow, and Zimmerman is a f*cking saint now? http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/ http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-killer-had-brushes-prior-153033731.html No one has to prove Zimmerman was a saint. If they did, then it'd be easy to prove Trayvon was a sinner as he flashed his rebellion in photos like this, Trayvon Martin was not an innocent little kid. Oh wow, some harmless little weed. :roll: And I'm not saying Trayvon was a saint, I just hate when people bring up these facts up about him and completely disregard that Zimmerman had prior run ins with the law.We are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
lo_Pine
[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I always try to avoid physical confrontations. So no, I would not have thrown a single punch unless the other man started it.ChuteboxThat's you. Everybody's different. Fight or flight, it's what adrenaline does. Trayvon fought. Correct, so why ask the question? Because Trayvon was within his grounds to confront the present threat - Zimmerman.
[QUOTE="BMD004"]The fight or flight response just prepares your body for action. It doesn't make you want to fight or want to run. That's up to you.Â[QUOTE="BranKetra"] You are criticising Trayvon Martin's fight or flight response.BranKetra
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It's not an excuse.
Whether or not the fight or flight response affects cognition is debatable, so it might be a reason for Trayvon Martin's actions. http://www.phoenix.edu/forward/perspectives/2012/10/5-ways-fight-or-flight-shapes-your-decisions.htmlSure, it can cause cloudy thinking. Everything is going a mile a minute and you may not be thinking things through with a calm mind.Â
But you know enough choose whether or not you want to punch somebody who is walking away or not. (if that is what happened).
That's you. Everybody's different. Fight or flight, it's what adrenaline does. Trayvon fought.Fight or flight doesn't make you see red and want to fight. That is a choice. Fight or flight is what they call the adrenaline dump that prepares your body for physical action... whether that is running, fighting, doing cartwheels, or whatever.[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="Chutebox"] I always try to avoid physical confrontations. So no, I would not have thrown a single punch unless the other man started it.
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If he fought, it had nothing to do with the fight or flight response.
And it also prepares the body to defend itself when it feels threatened by some strange dude's stalking.[QUOTE="lo_Pine"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Oh wow, and Zimmerman is a f*cking saint now? http://rollingout.com/culture/george-zimmerman-son-of-a-retired-judge-has-3-closed-arrests/ http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/lookout/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin-killer-had-brushes-prior-153033731.htmlShottayouth13-No one has to prove Zimmerman was a saint. If they did, then it'd be easy to prove Trayvon was a sinner as he flashed his rebellion in photos like this, Trayvon Martin was not an innocent little kid. Oh wow, some harmless little weed. :roll: And I'm not saying Trayvon was a saint, I just hate when people bring up these facts up about him and completely disregard that Zimmerman had prior run ins with the law. I never disregarded Zimmerman's personality, I hate when people disregard Trayvon's capability of committing what Zimmerman stated. Some people don't believe it's possible. Maybe if you read my part when I stated Zimmerman was an angel as well as Trayvon deserving to die because of smoking pot and writing innapropriate stuff on Twitter :roll:
[QUOTE="dercoo"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Initiated physical contact or not, Trayvon felt threatened and so he defend himself. Be realistic, if you actually realized someone was following you, what would you do?Shottayouth13-
Not ****ing assualt them.
Well that's you. I'd probably fight. So you're telling me that I deserve to lose my life (with no repercussions) because some little f*ck was playing hero and threatened me with his stalking?There is a clear chain of aggresion you follow in such situations, and Trayvon was a dumb ***** that decided to skip to he top.
You have to try to A: remove yourself from the area, or B attempt to peacfully resolve the situation.
Not jumping straight to trying to crack someone' skull in.
I would not assult a man for merly stalking me(I would take non-violent precautions, and have my right hand tucked close to my concealed holster ).
But as a registered CCW wielder I would shoot someone trying to assault me or someone else.
Well that's you. I'd probably fight. So you're telling me that I deserve to lose my life (with no repercussions) because some little f*ck was playing hero and threatened me with his stalking?[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="dercoo"]
Not ****ing assualt them.
dercoo
There is a clear chain of aggresion you follow in such situations, and Trayvon was a dumb ***** that decided to skip to he top.
You have to try to A: remove yourself from the area, or B attempt to peacfully resolve the situation.
Not jumping straight to trying to crack someone' skull in.
I would not assult a man for merly stalking me.
But as a registered CCW wielder I would shoot someone trying to assult me or someone else.
Martin did do A when he noticed Zimmerman following him.In my opinion Martin doesn't have to be a saint for Zimmerman to feel some recoil from being an entirely non-decent human being. That's just me though.Martin being a saint has nothing to do whether or not he deserved to die or if Zimmerman killed in cold blood. It gives insight on what he may be like. We have heard from plenty of blind people that Trayvon is some sweet innocent little boy. It gives thought on what Trayvon may or may not did during the fateful night.I found some of his last tweets (http://www.rightwingnews.com/10-random-140-character-thoughts/20-trayvon-martins-tweets-that-stand-out-language-warning/) and nothing stands out any different from any other normal teenager I know. He smokes weed, likes sex, and has terrible grammar and spelling. He wasn't out for blood, and didn't want to hurt anyone. He was scared and dealt with the situation the only way he knew how to. Keep in mind the kid wasn't an OT regular. He wasn't a weak person and for some people, presumably like him, dealing with fear confrontationally and not simply running away seems like the only option. He felt threatened and reacted in a way that he was comfortable with. Zimmerman instigated the entire situation by following him, period. He is liable for everything that happened in the situation following that action. I feel like there is a distinct difference between reality, and how the majority of people think on this forum.[QUOTE="FuggaJ"][QUOTE="willtsherman"]
We are not still 100% certain that he followed Trayvon after being told not to. You can hear him stop moving in the policve phone call. Another good way is to read these tweets written by Trayvon. While this does not mean that he certainly attacked Zimmerman nor does it mean that he deserved to be killed, looking into his social life can give some indication of what type of person he is. I can't stand the fact that people paint Trayvons parents as angels as well as their son. I'm sure they loved him dearly and weren't abusive, but come on, have you seen what he posts on twitter as well as him being suspended? My parents would have killed me if I did and wrote what Trayvon did. While this portion of information can't really be used and it really isn't the best type of evidence; it gives some idea what Trayvon was like and possibly capable of acting like while he was alive. Unlike the angelic little boy that was slaughtered as the media portrayed.
willtsherman
Oh wow, some harmless little weed. :roll: And I'm not saying Trayvon was a saint, I just hate when people bring up these facts up about him and completely disregard that Zimmerman had prior run ins with the law. I never disregarded Zimmerman's personality, I hate when people disregard Trayvon's capability of committing what Zimmerman stated. Some people don't believe it's possible. Maybe if you read my part when I stated Zimmerman was an angel as well as Trayvon deserving to die because of smoking pot and writing innapropriate stuff on Twitter :roll: I'm not disregarding Trayvon's capabilities, but if you're going to bring up one, bring up the other too. Otherwise you're just biased.[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="lo_Pine"] No one has to prove Zimmerman was a saint. If they did, then it'd be easy to prove Trayvon was a sinner as he flashed his rebellion in photos like this, Trayvon Martin was not an innocent little kid.willtsherman
Whether or not the fight or flight response affects cognition is debatable, so it might be a reason for Trayvon Martin's actions. http://www.phoenix.edu/forward/perspectives/2012/10/5-ways-fight-or-flight-shapes-your-decisions.htmlSure, it can cause cloudy thinking. Everything is going a mile a minute and you may not be thinking things through with a calm mind.[QUOTE="BranKetra"][QUOTE="BMD004"]The fight or flight response just prepares your body for action. It doesn't make you want to fight or want to run. That's up to you.Â
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But you know enough choose whether or not you want to punch somebody who is walking away or not. (if that is what happened).
Trayvon Martin was seventeen years old when he died. His age may be worth knowing because teenage years of human beings are a time of hormonal imbalance for many individuals. Imbalanced hormones mixed with a fight or flight response might be a reason Trayvon Martin made the decision to fight George Zimmerman. Trayvon Martin's death was over a year ago, so I doubt there is any way to verify his hormones during that night, but it is something to think about.[QUOTE="willtsherman"]I never disregarded Zimmerman's personality, I hate when people disregard Trayvon's capability of committing what Zimmerman stated. Some people don't believe it's possible. Maybe if you read my part when I stated Zimmerman was an angel as well as Trayvon deserving to die because of smoking pot and writing innapropriate stuff on Twitter :roll: I'm not disregarding Trayvon's capabilities, but if you're going to bring up one, bring up the other too. Otherwise you're just biased.Plenty of other people bring up his Zimmerman's capabilities. That doesn't make me biased just because I just talked about Trayvon. I'm fully aware what a grown adult with a gun is capable of as well as everyone else. Since not many people believe Trayvon was capable and will picture him as a boy, I stated the case against that thought.[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Oh wow, some harmless little weed. :roll: And I'm not saying Trayvon was a saint, I just hate when people bring up these facts up about him and completely disregard that Zimmerman had prior run ins with the law.Shottayouth13-
Well that's you. I'd probably fight. So you're telling me that I deserve to lose my life (with no repercussions) because some little f*ck was playing hero and threatened me with his stalking?[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="dercoo"]
Not ****ing assualt them.
dercoo
There is a clear chain of aggresion you follow in such situations, and Trayvon was a dumb ***** that decided to skip to he top.
You have to try to A: remove yourself from the area, or B attempt to peacfully resolve the situation.
Not jumping straight to trying to crack someone' skull in.
I would not assult a man for merly stalking me.
But as a registered CCW wielder I would shoot someone trying to assult me or someone else.
These 'chains of aggression' are not laws to be followed. Zimmerman had no right in the first place following Travyon. And also, Zimmerman was already highly suspicious of Trayvon, I highly doubt he went up to him in any polite manner. So how could Trayvon possibly have peacefully resolved the situation when Zimmerman already thought he was some hoodrat criminal?I'm not disregarding Trayvon's capabilities, but if you're going to bring up one, bring up the other too. Otherwise you're just biased.Plenty of other people bring up his Zimmerman's capabilities. That doesn't make me biased just because I just talked about Trayvon. I'm fully aware what a grown adult with a gun is capable of as well as everyone else. Since not many people believe Trayvon was capable and will picture him as a boy, I stated the case against that thought. Your original post tainted a biased picture but ehh.[QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"][QUOTE="willtsherman"] I never disregarded Zimmerman's personality, I hate when people disregard Trayvon's capability of committing what Zimmerman stated. Some people don't believe it's possible. Maybe if you read my part when I stated Zimmerman was an angel as well as Trayvon deserving to die because of smoking pot and writing innapropriate stuff on Twitter :roll:
willtsherman
[QUOTE="dercoo"][QUOTE="Shottayouth13-"] Well that's you. I'd probably fight. So you're telling me that I deserve to lose my life (with no repercussions) because some little f*ck was playing hero and threatened me with his stalking?Shottayouth13-
There is a clear chain of aggresion you follow in such situations, and Trayvon was a dumb ***** that decided to skip to he top.
You have to try to A: remove yourself from the area, or B attempt to peacfully resolve the situation.
Not jumping straight to trying to crack someone' skull in.
I would not assult a man for merly stalking me.
But as a registered CCW wielder I would shoot someone trying to assult me or someone else.
These 'chains of aggression' are not laws to be followed. Zimmerman had no right in the first place following Travyon. And also, Zimmerman was already highly suspicious of Trayvon, I highly doubt he went up to him in any polite manner. So how could Trayvon possibly have peacefully resolved the situation when Zimmerman already thought he was some hoodrat criminal? We don't know if Zimmerman confronted Trayvon or vice versa. Zimmerman's claim has the same amount of uncertainty as all the other claims. Right now there is no concrete evidence to back any side up.Â[QUOTE="playmynutz"]If ya don't like the law, leave. Ok I get it I'm not of this world. I will not participate in politics. Enjoy Babylon if you believe in their law...lostrib
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I think he's saying he's not from the Americas. Anyways dude should obviously NOT have pursued the kidPeople who advocate and glorify the act of being violently deviant toward the rest of society.lo_Pine
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Lol what the f*ck is the shit? So rappers are the bane of society right now? :lol: GTFO
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