Do You Consider Yourself To Be A Good Person? Poll.

How is that homophobia?

battlefront23

How is it not?

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I will now answer the first few questions:
Have you ever told a lie? What does that make you?
Yep. It makes me a liar.
Have you ever stolen anything? What does that make you?
Yes. It makes me a thief.
Have you ever looked with lust? The Bible calls that adultery.
I am aware of that, and I have done so.
Have you ever hated anyone? According to the Bible, that's murder.
I don't think so.
Have you ever used God's name in vain? What does that make you?
Once, yes. It makes me a blasphemer.
According to God's Standard, the Ten Commandments, I am lying, thieving, adulterous, blasphemer at heart.
Based on these answers, what your eternal destiny going to be? Heaven or hell?
Heaven.
Why is that?
Because I have been born again, I have repented of my sins, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. My sins are now covered by His Blood, and will be forever more.
I am a child of God!battlefront23

Hey OT, it looks like he wasn't judging after all. :) He's guilty of all those things, as am I. And the reason we are going to Heaven is simple. And you guys all probably know the way to get saved. :D

Another question for you, TC.

True or false? Everyone who lived before John the Baptist went to Hell.

harashawn

Didn't they go to like sheol or something?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I will now answer the first few questions:
Have you ever told a lie? What does that make you?
Yep. It makes me a liar.
Have you ever stolen anything? What does that make you?
Yes. It makes me a thief.
Have you ever looked with lust? The Bible calls that adultery.
I am aware of that, and I have done so.
Have you ever hated anyone? According to the Bible, that's murder.
I don't think so.
Have you ever used God's name in vain? What does that make you?
Once, yes. It makes me a blasphemer.
According to God's Standard, the Ten Commandments, I am lying, thieving, adulterous, blasphemer at heart.
Based on these answers, what your eternal destiny going to be? Heaven or hell?
Heaven.
Why is that?
Because I have been born again, I have repented of my sins, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. My sins are now covered by His Blood, and will be forever more.
I am a child of God!Hungry_bunny

Hey OT, it looks like he wasn't judging after all. :) He's guilty of all those things, as am I. And the reason we are going to Heaven is simple. And you guys all probably know the way to get saved. :D

Yeah

I don't drink or smoke
I always concentrate on the good things about a person over the bad things
I give people money and food when they need it
I never talk bad about my friends
I always try and respect peoples opinions (except for Juggaloes)

How do you know it's the word of God? Funky_Llama

It has no errors. It speaks truths. And all the old prophecies about Jesus and many other things came to pass.

Hah, I couldn't believe in God without evidence any more than you can voluntarily believe that pigs fly.Funky_Llama

Why not?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I will now answer the first few questions:
Have you ever told a lie? What does that make you?
Yep. It makes me a liar.
Have you ever stolen anything? What does that make you?
Yes. It makes me a thief.
Have you ever looked with lust? The Bible calls that adultery.
I am aware of that, and I have done so.
Have you ever hated anyone? According to the Bible, that's murder.
I don't think so.
Have you ever used God's name in vain? What does that make you?
Once, yes. It makes me a blasphemer.
According to God's Standard, the Ten Commandments, I am lying, thieving, adulterous, blasphemer at heart.
Based on these answers, what your eternal destiny going to be? Heaven or hell?
Heaven.
Why is that?
Because I have been born again, I have repented of my sins, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. My sins are now covered by His Blood, and will be forever more.
I am a child of God!Hungry_bunny

Hey OT, it looks like he wasn't judging after all. :) He's guilty of all those things, as am I. And the reason we are going to Heaven is simple. And you guys all probably know the way to get saved. :D

[QUOTE="harashawn"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
Because I have been born again, I have repented of my sins, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. My sins are now covered by His Blood, and will be forever more.
I am a child of God!Crushmaster

I call BS.

Baptism has no effect on how good of a person you are. Your actions make you a good (or bad) person.

You said you were "born again". Sounds like a baptism reference to me.

I'm pretty sure if they weren't afraid of them being different, they wouldn't be killing them:|

(man I'm using :| a lot in this thread)

Funky_Llama

God doesn't fear any men.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

How is that homophobia?

Dark_Knight6

How is it not?

It has no errors. It speaks truths. And all the old prophecies about Jesus and many other things came to pass. battlefront23

Not all of them, yet ;)

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="harashawn"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
Because I have been born again, I have repented of my sins, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. My sins are now covered by His Blood, and will be forever more.
I am a child of God!harashawn

I call BS.

Baptism has no effect on how good of a person you are. Your actions make you a good (or bad) person.

You said you were "born again". Sounds like a baptism reference to me.

harashawn, look up John 3.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

123625

It has no errors. It speaks truths. And all the old prophecies about Jesus and many other things came to pass.

Not all of them, yet ;)

Yeah I didn't how to say that. :P That doesn't mean they are false, but I didn't know how to exactly say that, you know?

You may wish to check that definition... "Homophobia (from Greekhomós: one and the same; phóbos: fear, phobia) is an irrational fear of, aversion to, or discrimination against homosexuality"

Funky_Llama

I really don't want to open a can of worms... but I could answer that if you really wanted me too. Over PM.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I will now answer the first few questions:
Have you ever told a lie? What does that make you?
Yep. It makes me a liar.
Have you ever stolen anything? What does that make you?
Yes. It makes me a thief.
Have you ever looked with lust? The Bible calls that adultery.
I am aware of that, and I have done so.
Have you ever hated anyone? According to the Bible, that's murder.
I don't think so.
Have you ever used God's name in vain? What does that make you?
Once, yes. It makes me a blasphemer.
According to God's Standard, the Ten Commandments, I am lying, thieving, adulterous, blasphemer at heart.
Based on these answers, what your eternal destiny going to be? Heaven or hell?
Heaven.
Why is that?
Because I have been born again, I have repented of my sins, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. My sins are now covered by His Blood, and will be forever more.
I am a child of God!Shad0ki11

Hey OT, it looks like he wasn't judging after all. :) He's guilty of all those things, as am I. And the reason we are going to Heaven is simple. And you guys all probably know why. :D

Because you're Evangelizing on video game website in a weak attempt to convert individuals to Christianity.:shock:

I have Duality so I'm in between.cyberdarkkid

Everybody does.

Ever person is capable of good things, and bad things, and in-between things, and neither things. That's just how people are. No person is one way. Many of us think we are, but we aren't. The collection of multiple concepts, ideas, and perceptions are who we are. We are neither true, nor false.

I'm pretty sure if they weren't afraid of them being different, they wouldn't be killing them:|

(man I'm using :| a lot in this thread)

TAKE_IT_BACK

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

There's no sexism or homophobia or anything of that sort. :|

Really, now lets not get into this argument again, I think its fairly obvious that most people would admit the bible is sexist at some points. And condemning homosexuality= homophobia in my eyes.

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

And actually it is proof. :Dbattlefront23

Of what:| I suppose its proof that Jesus once lived, and that he was a man who did many great things. Other then that...

But God doesn't fear homosexuals tho. That's what homophobia is; the fear of homosexuals.

And no it's not sexist.

What do you want it to prove?

Bit of a misquote in there, but whatever...

Funky_Llama and I pretty much just proved you wrong about the homophobia thing so... all thats left is sexism.

Here is another website

And here is a video...

Seriously, these are blatantly sexist quotes. And nothing you have posted has combatted that.

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"] I have answered the questions myself. I am just as guilty as you or anyone else on this topic. There's just one difference...My sins are covered by the Blood of the Lamb.LJS9502_basic

Except that is NOT how Jesus taught.,...

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

battlefront23

Why is it an abomination?

It has no errors.

battlefront23

49And he shall take to cleanse the house two birds, and cedar wood, and scarlet, and hyssop:

50And he shall kill the one of the birds in an earthen vessel over running water:

51And he shall take the cedar wood, and the hyssop, and the scarlet, and the living bird, and dip them in the blood of the slain bird, and in the running water, and sprinkle the house seven times:

52And he shall cleanse the house with the blood of the bird, and with the running water, and with the living bird, and with the cedar wood, and with the hyssop, and with the scarlet:

53But he shall let go the living bird out of the city into the open fields, and make an atonement for the house: and it shall be clean.

Suffice it to say... this 'remedy' is less than successful.

And even God himself confesses to giving bad commandments in Ezekiel 20:25: "Wherefore I gave them also statutes that were not good, and judgments whereby they should not live"

It speaks truths.

battlefront23

And all the old prophecies about Jesus and many other things came to pass.

battlefront23

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

I'm pretty sure if they weren't afraid of them being different, they wouldn't be killing them:|

(man I'm using :| a lot in this thread)

battlefront23

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]Hmm, I'm confused. If you don't accept Jesus then you are an evil person?Funky_Llama

It sounds like some posters are saying that one sin (depending on the sin I guess) is enough. Basically, (since NOBODY, including the pope, is THAT perfect) the world consists of 6 billion EVIL individuals and the only way they can be called GOOD is if they accept Christ. That image doesn't feel right to me.

Bit of a misquote in there, but whatever...

Funky_Llama and I pretty much just proved you wrong about the homophobia thing so... all thats left is sexism.

Here is another website

And here is a video...

Seriously, these are blatantly sexist quotes. And nothing you have posted has combatted that.

TAKE_IT_BACK

In the website, nearly every single verse is taken out of context AND secondly, who was God talking to?

The video also takes things out of context. Also, why would Adam be punished for something he didn't do? His sin was different then Eve's but it wasn't any less of a sin.

And no they are not blatantly sexist quotes.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]Hmm, I'm confused. If you don't accept Jesus then you are an evil person?Hungry_bunny

It sounds like some posters are saying that one sin (depending on the sin I guess) is enough. Basically, (since NOBODY, including the pope, is THAT perfect) the world consists of 6 billion EVIL individuals and the only way they can be called GOOD is if they accept Christ. That image doesn't feel right to me.

Invent an easier version of Christianity? If someone says, "Hey, I'm a Christian now, I'm saved, I can go do whatever I want!" I highly doubt they were ever a Christian.
If you are truly saved, there will be a change.
And I, my friend, have been changed. I am a new creature in Christ Jesus my Lord!Crushmaster

[QUOTE="Shad0ki11"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"]
I will now answer the first few questions:
Have you ever told a lie? What does that make you?
Yep. It makes me a liar.
Have you ever stolen anything? What does that make you?
Yes. It makes me a thief.
Have you ever looked with lust? The Bible calls that adultery.
I am aware of that, and I have done so.
Have you ever hated anyone? According to the Bible, that's murder.
I don't think so.
Have you ever used God's name in vain? What does that make you?
Once, yes. It makes me a blasphemer.
According to God's Standard, the Ten Commandments, I am lying, thieving, adulterous, blasphemer at heart.
Based on these answers, what your eternal destiny going to be? Heaven or hell?
Heaven.
Why is that?
Because I have been born again, I have repented of my sins, and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. My sins are now covered by His Blood, and will be forever more.
I am a child of God!Crushmaster

Hey OT, it looks like he wasn't judging after all. :) He's guilty of all those things, as am I. And the reason we are going to Heaven is simple. And you guys all probably know why. :D

Because you're Evangelizing on video game website in a weak attempt to convert individuals to Christianity.:shock:

Give me an estimate of how many sins have you commited within the past two weeks.

The video also takes things out of context. Also, why would Adam be punished for something he didn't do? His sin was different then Eve's but it wasn't any less of a sin.

battlefront23

[QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

I'm pretty sure if they weren't afraid of them being different, they wouldn't be killing them:|

(man I'm using :| a lot in this thread)

LJS9502_basic

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

Where did I cast stones? Homosexuality is the same as adultery, molesting a minor, etc. God said it was an abomination; you're saying it's not?

And truth of the matter gay sex is no different than premarital sex.LJS9502_basic

Where did I cast stones? Homosexuality is the same as adultery, molesting a minor, etc. God said it was an abomination; you're saying it's not?

battlefront23

Did God actually say that? Or did someone say it claiming that God told him?

[QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]

It sounds like some posters are saying that one sin (depending on the sin I guess) is enough. Basically, (since NOBODY, including the pope, is THAT perfect) the world consists of 6 billion EVIL individuals and the only way they can be called GOOD is if they accept Christ. That image doesn't feel right to me.

Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

I can't wait till the TC gets to me>_> That'll be interesting...

Also, Crushmaster, I've noticed you have failed to comment on the issue battlefront, llama and I are discussing- Care to say something?

And I read the thread in your sig, and now I realize your against H0mosexual marriage. You make me sick.

TAKE_IT_BACK

*super epic facepalm*

I wish a feminist was here to point out all the problems with that...

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="battlefront23"][QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

I'm pretty sure if they weren't afraid of them being different, they wouldn't be killing them:|

(man I'm using :| a lot in this thread)

battlefront23

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

Where did I cast stones? Homosexuality is the same as adultery, molesting a minor, etc. God said it was an abomination; you're saying it's not?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

Dark_Knight6

Why is it an abomination?

To be honest, I don't know. It has to do something to do with the fact God made marriage between a man and woman. And also, man have... you know. And girls have... you know. And God made them that way on purpose. But that's just my interpretation. Call me brainwashed or w/e, but until someone proves the Bible isn't inerrant, I will believe what it says.

[QUOTE="TAKE_IT_BACK"]

I'm pretty sure if they weren't afraid of them being different, they wouldn't be killing them:|

(man I'm using :| a lot in this thread)

battlefront23

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

:roll: Oh, so homosexuals are abominations now, eh? Don't even get me started...

Listen: I attend a homosexual friendly church. They preform homosexual weddings there. Is that all sin? Are all these people damned to hell? Well then I'm not so sure I agree with God on all this stuff. Maybe he/she should open his/her eyes.

Oh yeah, I went there. Does that mean I'm going to hell now? Thats a shame.

Also, TC, if you were hoping of converting people online, let me tell you, you failed. In fact, before I entered this thread, I was agnostic. Now I'm an atheist, just because of the absolutely opinions you and other Christians have. Don't get me wrong, I respect your belief in God, but I cannot understand how you can defend that terrible book you call holy.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Hungry_bunny"]

It sounds like some posters are saying that one sin (depending on the sin I guess) is enough. Basically, (since NOBODY, including the pope, is THAT perfect) the world consists of 6 billion EVIL individuals and the only way they can be called GOOD is if they accept Christ. That image doesn't feel right to me.

LJS9502_basic

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Where did I cast stones? Homosexuality is the same as adultery, molesting a minor, etc. God said it was an abomination; you're saying it's not?

harashawn

Did God actually say that? Or did someone say it claiming that God told him?

In the Old Testament, somewhere.

Where did I cast stones? Homosexuality is the same as adultery, molesting a minor, etc. God said it was an abomination; you're saying it's not?

battlefront23

Call me brainwashed or w/e, but until someone proves the Bible isn't inerrant, I will believe what it says.

battlefront23

This thread reminds me beginning of Friday (movie with ice cube)

-Hello young man do you ....

-(shuts door)

-O so f*** y** ... come sistah!... xD


UIHuahuahauhauhauah xD

[QUOTE="harashawn"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Where did I cast stones? Homosexuality is the same as adultery, molesting a minor, etc. God said it was an abomination; you're saying it's not?

battlefront23

Did God actually say that? Or did someone say it claiming that God told him?

In the Old Testament, somewhere.

Sorry, but I don't remember reading about God ever speaking to anyone about homosexuality.

But surely then, if actions matter, it would make sense for the reciprocal to apply, ie non-Christians who've led good lives should go to heaven.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Crushmaster"] Invent an easier version of Christianity? If someone says, "Hey, I'm a Christian now, I'm saved, I can go do whatever I want!" I highly doubt they were ever a Christian.
If you are truly saved, there will be a change.
And I, my friend, have been changed. I am a new creature in Christ Jesus my Lord!LJS9502_basic

by his logic you are wrong.

You're only saved by accepting Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savir and repenting of your sins. There is no other way.Crushmaster

yes there is, you have kiss Hank's ass

[QUOTE="Dark_Knight6"][QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Maybe they are killing them because it is an abomination, just like every other sin. Ask Theo. Speaking of, I could use his help! :x

battlefront23

Why is it an abomination?

To be honest, I don't know. It has to do something to do with the fact God made marriage between a man and woman. And also, man have... you know. And girls have... you know. And God made them that way on purpose. But that's just my interpretation. Call me brainwashed or w/e, but until someone proves the Bible isn't inerrant, I will believe what it says.

I mean, if homosexuals are so bad, why are they able to have sex and reach an orgasm that way? Wouldn't God have done something to prevent that if he hated the concept of homosexuality so much?

[QUOTE="battlefront23"]

Call me brainwashed or w/e, but until someone proves the Bible isn't inerrant, I will believe what it says.

Funky_Llama

The muslim God and Christian God are the same.

Couple things.

1.What happened to cultures that did not have christianity exported to their lands? Were the natives damned to hell automaticily through the lack of the gospel in that area? Seems rather unfair to me.

2.If a child dies doesn't that child still have orginal sin?

3.Kirk Cameron anyone?

More questions for everyone

1.Have you ever loved someone?

2.Have you ever helped someone?

3.Have you ever sacrificed something for the better good even something small like giving a cookie to a child?

If you aswered yes to all questions by your own admisions you are a loving giving helpfull selfless person. Works both ways TC. The fact that going to heaven or hell rides on grace alone is immoral and sick. Any religion that teaches that my own thoughts can damn be to hell is not for me.

You can call me old-fashioned, dumb, I don't care.
But God has ordained men to be the protectors, providers, and leaders - and women are supposed to be the helpers, comforters, and nurterers. Women to be respected, protected, and cherished - not sent out to fight terrorists or criminals.
Crushmaster

Yes, I will call you old fashioned. Because your blindly following God rather then thinking for yourself and realizing how blatantly sexist that was.

That is God's Order, but, sadly, it has been destroyed in this day and age.

Crushmaster

Sadly? Are you joking? So you'd rather have it back to the days when women couldn't vote and had no rights?

Sorry, but I don't remember reading about God ever speaking to anyone about homosexuality.harashawn

It's there, I beleive it was Moses reciting the law.