h0m0sexu@lity choice or born that way???

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#1 frannkzappa
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opinions?

I for one think that both are true as nothing in nature is that black and white.

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#2 deactivated-598fc45371265
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Just ask Lady Gaga.

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#3 Mike-uk
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According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

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According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Mike-uk
According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.
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#5 SaudiFury
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i don't think it's a choice.

but then again i also think sexuality is a spectrum and is not always cut and dry under one definition or the other.

what's a choice is if you persue someone your interested in. that much is a choice. not who you find yourself attracted to.

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#7 jesuschristmonk
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Motherofgod.jpg this again?

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[QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Ravensmash
According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.

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[QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Ravensmash
According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.

Modern science will get things wrong from time to time. Not everything said from modern science will be correct. We must take that into account, especially when the scriptures say otherwise.
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#10 deactivated-598fc45371265
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[QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Ravensmash

According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.

They've actually found and isolated genes for that? I haven't heard that, then again I haven't been obsessing over the whole issue like some people.

Are there genes for fetishes as well?

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Mike-uk

According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.

Modern science will get things wrong from time to time. Not everything said from modern science will be correct. We must take that into account, especially when the scriptures say otherwise.

Science > Bible

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Hey look, it's this bread again. When will the OT oven of crap topics turn off? :/

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Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dick
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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Mike-uk

According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.

Modern science will get things wrong from time to time. Not everything said from modern science will be correct. We must take that into account, especially when the scriptures say otherwise.

You make no sense.

Something in science can only be proven wrong by more science.

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#15 Mike-uk
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[QUOTE="Mike-uk"][QUOTE="Ravensmash"] According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature. CycleOfViolence

Modern science will get things wrong from time to time. Not everything said from modern science will be correct. We must take that into account, especially when the scriptures say otherwise.

Science > Bible

Bible > Science > World War 3

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[QUOTE="Ravensmash"][QUOTE="Mike-uk"]

According to the scriptures it is a choice. No one is born a homosexual.

Mike-uk
According to modern science it's genetic and indeed stems from nature.

Modern science will get things wrong from time to time. Not everything said from modern science will be correct. We must take that into account, especially when the scriptures say otherwise.

Actually, according to Holy Writ it is irrelevant whether one is born gay or not. Scripture calls us to deny the flesh. Even if one is born gay the Bible calls that desire sin. Therefore it is not to be acted upon. The same applies to the guy that is genetically predisposed to cheat on his wife. Being born that way does not make it right.
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Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickCapitan_Kid
Denny better whup your ass.
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[QUOTE="CycleOfViolence"]

[QUOTE="Mike-uk"] Modern science will get things wrong from time to time. Not everything said from modern science will be correct. We must take that into account, especially when the scriptures say otherwise. Mike-uk

Science > Bible

Bible > Science > World War 3

Taters tatin > Bible > Taters not tatin

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Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickCapitan_Kid
Lol this guy.
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickl4dak47
Denny better whup your ass.

So scary!
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#21 frannkzappa
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but why does science "proving" people can be born gay mean people cant choose to be gay?

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Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickCapitan_Kid
That doesn;t make one gay
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickRing_of_fire
That doesn;t make one gay

If a dude sucks a dick, he's gay
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Both.
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickRing_of_fire
That doesn;t make one gay

Don't mind him. He's trolling.
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Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickCapitan_Kid

It's like this. You don't get to choose what gives you an erection.

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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickCapitan_Kid
That doesn;t make one gay

If a dude sucks a dick, he's gay

Even if a straight man is forced into doing it?
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickl4dak47
That doesn;t make one gay

Don't mind him. He's trolling.

I often fall for the trolls.
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"] That doesn;t make one gay

Don't mind him. He's trolling.

I often fall for the trolls.

Yea, don't worry about it. He's being punished for this on TDH.
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[QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"] That doesn;t make one gay

If a dude sucks a dick, he's gay

Even if a straight man is forced into doing it?

No thats rape brah
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It's not a choice nor are you born that way. There are a wide array of sociological, psychological and biological attributes that have to be taken into consideration. To say you born homosexual has no basis in science as we haven't discovered any biological gene or brain abnormality that would cause homosexuality. There are a variety of factors that go into making someone homosexual.
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[QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"]Its a choice. If i felt like it, i could suck a dickCapitan_Kid
That doesn;t make one gay

If a dude sucks a dick, he's gay

If he liked sucking it, yah. If it took putting a gun up to his head to do it, then that'd be far from being gay. Same goes for getting your dick sucked by a guy: If you like it, you're gay Vice Versa. I just recall from Harold and Kumar with that "Big Bob" guy claiming "there's nothing gay about getting your dick sucked." There sure is if you want a guy doing it lol.
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[QUOTE="l4dak47"][QUOTE="Ring_of_fire"][QUOTE="l4dak47"] Don't mind him. He's trolling.

I often fall for the trolls.

Yea, don't worry about it. He's being punished for this on TDH.

I see. I don't go to TDH, so I wouldn't know.
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#35 jesuschristmonk
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[QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="FPSfan1985"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"] If a dude sucks a dick, he's gay

Even if a straight man is forced into doing it?

No thats rape brah

Oh, so that's where the line's drawn. Could have said that in your first post "brah." Let me help with that: "If a guy sucks a dick, he's gay unless he's forced to."
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Born..
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#37 Smatmat
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It's not a choice nor are you born that way. There are a wide array of sociological, psychological and biological attributes that have to be taken into consideration. To say you born homosexual has no basis in science as we haven't discovered any biological gene or brain abnormality that would cause homosexuality. There are a variety of factors that go into making someone homosexual. ferrari2001
But the point is that god said its wrong. I mean you would think that god wouldn't force people to do something he thinks is wrong but thats what the priests tell me.
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]It's not a choice nor are you born that way. There are a wide array of sociological, psychological and biological attributes that have to be taken into consideration. To say you born homosexual has no basis in science as we haven't discovered any biological gene or brain abnormality that would cause homosexuality. There are a variety of factors that go into making someone homosexual. Smatmat
But the point is that god said its wrong. I mean you would think that god wouldn't force people to do something he thinks is wrong but thats what the priests tell me.

Nu uh. Anal sex is wrong. Homosexuals are ok.
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"]It's not a choice nor are you born that way. There are a wide array of sociological, psychological and biological attributes that have to be taken into consideration. To say you born homosexual has no basis in science as we haven't discovered any biological gene or brain abnormality that would cause homosexuality. There are a variety of factors that go into making someone homosexual. Smatmat
But the point is that god said its wrong. I mean you would think that god wouldn't force people to do something he thinks is wrong but thats what the priests tell me.

Being homosexual isn't wrong. The act of having sex with another person of the same sex is considered wrong by most Christian denominations. There is a difference. Also, troll much?
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[QUOTE="Smatmat"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]It's not a choice nor are you born that way. There are a wide array of sociological, psychological and biological attributes that have to be taken into consideration. To say you born homosexual has no basis in science as we haven't discovered any biological gene or brain abnormality that would cause homosexuality. There are a variety of factors that go into making someone homosexual. Capitan_Kid
But the point is that god said its wrong. I mean you would think that god wouldn't force people to do something he thinks is wrong but thats what the priests tell me.

Nu uh. Anal sex is wrong. Homosexuals are ok.

Oh ok. That means I can masturbate with a man if I choose and that is ok in the eyes of god then?
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hIfvwwPSHCI&feature=related

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#42 Smatmat
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[QUOTE="Smatmat"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"]It's not a choice nor are you born that way. There are a wide array of sociological, psychological and biological attributes that have to be taken into consideration. To say you born homosexual has no basis in science as we haven't discovered any biological gene or brain abnormality that would cause homosexuality. There are a variety of factors that go into making someone homosexual. ferrari2001
But the point is that god said its wrong. I mean you would think that god wouldn't force people to do something he thinks is wrong but thats what the priests tell me.

Being homosexual isn't wrong. The act of having sex with another person of the same sex is considered wrong by most Christian denominations. There is a difference. Also, troll much?

What constitutes having sex between two males? I am not a troll.
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#43 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="Smatmat"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Smatmat"] But the point is that god said its wrong. I mean you would think that god wouldn't force people to do something he thinks is wrong but thats what the priests tell me.

Being homosexual isn't wrong. The act of having sex with another person of the same sex is considered wrong by most Christian denominations. There is a difference. Also, troll much?

What constitutes having sex between two males? I am not a troll.

I think it has something to do with Popsicles and candy corn. As long as that's involved then it's wrong.
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[QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Smatmat"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"] Being homosexual isn't wrong. The act of having sex with another person of the same sex is considered wrong by most Christian denominations. There is a difference. Also, troll much?

What constitutes having sex between two males? I am not a troll.

I think it has something to do with Popsicles and candy corn. As long as that's involved then it's wrong.

I am serious. Shouldn't you know this? I thought you were going to be a priest or something of that nature.
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[QUOTE="Smatmat"][QUOTE="Capitan_Kid"][QUOTE="Smatmat"] But the point is that god said its wrong. I mean you would think that god wouldn't force people to do something he thinks is wrong but thats what the priests tell me.

Nu uh. Anal sex is wrong. Homosexuals are ok.

Oh ok. That means I can masturbate with a man if I choose and that is ok in the eyes of god then?

As long as you dont touch its not gay
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#46 ferrari2001
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[QUOTE="Smatmat"][QUOTE="ferrari2001"][QUOTE="Smatmat"] What constitutes having sex between two males? I am not a troll.

I think it has something to do with Popsicles and candy corn. As long as that's involved then it's wrong.

I am serious. Shouldn't you know this? I thought you were going to be a priest or something of that nature.

I think you need to have a talk with your parents about these sexual things, rather than learning about them from me on the internet.
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Maybe they were born with it...maybe it's Maybelline?

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#48 Darksonic666
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Another one of these ? :roll:

I'll say what I basically said on the last one with out getting too much into it.

People are born with what ever sexuality they have and it's not a choice.

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Sexuality is not a choice.
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A result of a fallen humanity, something to be overcome not celebrated and embraced.