Have you bought into the biased slander against America?

Many people in other countries are not very appreciative of the United States. Their governments and/or media makes America out to be imperialist, greedy, or just plain stupid. It all comes from jealousy and major difference in agenda.

I'm not talking about dislike of any President or administration in the USA over the last few decades, democrat or republican. I'm talking about the UNFAIR animosity toward America as a whole.

Also, professors in some universaties in the USA talk bad about America. They AREN'T free thinkers, and put their socialist or radical liberal agenda before pure, unbiased education.

Just shut the HELL UP ALREADY!! Jeez, just don't listen to them >_> :|zakkro

No. I can post this. What's your problem? :|

No. I can post this. What's your problem? :|

MayorJohnny

I have not bought into this alleged "anti-American propoganda".

How is an American that critiques America not a free thinker? Vyse_The_Daring

The radical left isn't tolerant of Pro-American opinions, and therefore they are NOT free thinkers. Let people decide for themselves without the incredibly biased views being tossed in their faces.

I'm Canadian, so yeah, sorry.thetraitor

Sorry? No, you must WANT to believe it.

America doesn't like you. America is greedy. America is mean.

You like that? Makes you feel better about your little country?

Although i don't approve of the current American administration or its policies, i don't hate America by any means.

dbowman,

Why do you and others have to preface it? Why not just simply like America?

[QUOTE="thetraitor"]I'm Canadian, so yeah, sorry.MayorJohnny

Sorry? No, you must WANT to believe it.

America doesn't like you. America is greedy. America is mean.

You like that? Makes you feel better about your little country?

I'm not too crazy about Canada either, that's why I left the infantry.

The radical left isn't tolerant of Pro-American opinions, and therefore they are NOT free thinkers.MayorJohnny

The radical right isn't exactly tolerant of anti american opinions.We have two problems here, not one.

Let people decide for themselves without the incredibly biased views being tossed in their faces.

This is a problem with political parties in general. Which is why I advocate their abolishment.

[QUOTE="Vyse_The_Daring"]How is an American that critiques America not a free thinker? MayorJohnny

The radical left isn't tolerant of Pro-American opinions, and therefore they are NOT free thinkers. Let people decide for themselves without the incredibly biased views being tossed in their faces.

Someone who doesn't believe exactly what everyone else believes isn't a free thinker? This is what I don't get about America.

In regards to your other post: calling Canada little in a derogatory sense makes you look like a jerk, and doesn't exactly help your cause.

dbowman,

Why do you and others have to preface it? Why not just simply like America?

MayorJohnny

I think you have lost your mind.

dbowman,

Why do you and others have to preface it? Why not just simply like America?

MayorJohnny

That doesn't make any sense at all in the context of your previous points. Yes the America bashing bandwagon is stupid. Does that necessarily mean everyone on it is there to look cool? Hell no. A number of them have genuinly relevant points and criticisms that are more productive to listen to than to ignore.

*Sighs.* I'm really sick of hearing a lot of the stereotypes of countries. There are cons and pros of every country. There are good and bad people in every country. Not everyone in America is greedy, mean, imperialist, stupid, fat, etc. The stereotypical things come from people who are stupid, mean, imperialist, greedy, fat, or etc., giving the reputation of a country a bad one. There will always be an arrogant person, whetherbeing in America, Canada, England, China, etc. There will always be that type of person and just because there are those like them, doesn't mean the whole country is.

In all honesty, it's quite sad.

dbowman,

Why do you and others have to preface it? Why not just simply like America?

MayorJohnny

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

The radical left isn't tolerant of Pro-American opinions, and therefore they are NOT free thinkers.CaptHawkeye

The radical right isn't exactly tolerant of anti american opinions.We have two problems here, not one.

Let people decide for themselves without the incredibly biased views being tossed in their faces.

This is a problem with political parties in general. Which is why I advocate their abolishment.

The radical right isn't near as big as the radical left, and you know it. So, the radical left is a much bigger problem. Look at the media, at colleges, at certain people in hollywood... Etc...

I know you can, but don't. It's just so old. "Oh, what right do they have to bash us" is getting so old, it makes me want to throw up. There are a dozen topics you could have bumped or something >_> Just don't listen to them, it's not like they live in the U.S. >_> Sorry for the abruptness...
zakkro

Actually...you're not allowed to bump old topics. As for this topic...stereotypes and generalizations aren't right...but what can you do...too many do it. It's not worth the argument.

You're just fueling the stereotype TC.

The radical right isn't near as big as the radical left, and you know it. So, the radical left is a much bigger problem. Look at the media, at colleges, at certain people in hollywood... Etc...

MayorJohnny

Oh come on, because the right isn't as big they are automatically exempt from criticism? That's idiotic.

And I can't stand this "lol media" crap arguments. The media doesn't slant towards any political party, it just reports what it feels like for the sake of ratings.

Colleges? Name these colleges. The only things i've seen have a been a few random Professors come out and whore attention.

You're kidding yourself if you think anyone with half a brain respects any of those pompous Hollywood celebrities and their opinions.

"I'm going to protest the money hungry republicans! Right after I finish purchasing my 3rd mansion."

I love America!

Look at the nations who support us (populace): Poland, Albania, Bosnia. These countries love us because of what we do for the world. They are the small countries that have been aided by America and know what it is like to live under opression (communism).

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

cametall

Nitpick, the US was ardently opposed to the Versailles Treaty. It was not the reason Germany suffered after WW1.

I love America!

Look at the nations who support us (populace): Poland, Albania, Bosnia. These countries love us because of what we do for the world. They are the small countries that have been aided by America and know what it is like to live under opression (communism).

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

cametall

[QUOTE="cametall"]

I love America!

Look at the nations who support us (populace): Poland, Albania, Bosnia. These countries love us because of what we do for the world. They are the small countries that have been aided by America and know what it is like to live under opression (communism).

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

-DSFARGEG-

Should I hate my country?

What do you want me to say? I love England for their poor healthcare! And I love France because they hate everyone! I love Germany because... well I can think of no reason, they're heads are too small so I cannot wear their hats!

Many people in other countries are not very appreciative of the United States. Their governments and/or media makes America out to be imperialist, greedy, or just plain stupid. It all comes from jealousy and major difference in agenda.

I'm not talking about dislike of any President or administration in the USA over the last few decades, democrat or republican. I'm talking about the UNFAIR animosity toward America as a whole.

Also, professors in some universaties in the USA talk bad about America. They AREN'T free thinkers, and put their socialist or radical liberal agenda before pure, unbiased education.

MayorJohnny

Haha, are you for real?

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"][QUOTE="cametall"]

I love America!

Look at the nations who support us (populace): Poland, Albania, Bosnia. These countries love us because of what we do for the world. They are the small countries that have been aided by America and know what it is like to live under opression (communism).

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

cametall

Should I hate my country?

What do you want me to say? I love England for their poor healthcare! And I love France because they hate everyone! I love Germany because... well I can think of no reason, they're heads are too small so I cannot wear their hats!

also you come off as an ass when you insult other countrys for no reason than trying to proove why americas the greatest.

plus loling at american calling the english healthcare poor.

Should I hate my country?

No, to me a good citizen is critical of his country.

I love England for their poor healthcare!

US healthcare isn't exactly in a good position either.

And I love France because they hate everyone!

Everyone knows France's ego is huge.The problem is that the US suffers from the sameproblem.

I love Germany because... well I can think of no reason, they're heads are too small so I cannot wear their hats!

Personally I prefer braughtwurst.

[QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"][QUOTE="cametall"]

I love America!

Look at the nations who support us (populace): Poland, Albania, Bosnia. These countries love us because of what we do for the world. They are the small countries that have been aided by America and know what it is like to live under opression (communism).

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

-DSFARGEG-

Should I hate my country?

What do you want me to say? I love England for their poor healthcare! And I love France because they hate everyone! I love Germany because... well I can think of no reason, they're heads are too small so I cannot wear their hats!

also you come off as an ass when you insult other countrys.

plus loling at american calling the english healthcare poor.

Why shouldn't I think we're the best? Because you are unhappy your nation is not a super power? Oh and I am politically incorrect because America lets me be. So I'll insult any country I want.

You are "loling" at poor english healthcare? I don't think having your chances of dying from cancer doubled in the English healthcare system "lol" worthy. Diagnosed with prostate cancer? 52% chane you'll die from it in England, 19% in the US.

And as far as medical procedures go, America is light years ahead of England. People cry about our healthcare system because it isn't free. Guess what? Get a job you live in a capitalist society.

Our healthcare system is not perfect, yes I agree. But to think socialized healthcare is better? No, that is why you do not let the government run things such as healthcare.

The radical right isn't near as big as the radical left, and you know it. So, the radical left is a much bigger problem. Look at the media, at colleges, at certain people in hollywood... Etc...

MayorJohnny

Hence how Bush is in office a second term.

Colleges? You say to look at a subset of a particular age group and consider that representative of the entire population? Please...

The media? What media is radical left except for maybe certain music bands and some blogs that nobody really pays attention to? I would love to know what "radical left" is in your view.

Radical left? Here is radical left.

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

The radical left isn't tolerant of Pro-American opinions, and therefore they are NOT free thinkers.CaptHawkeye

The radical right isn't exactly tolerant of anti american opinions.We have two problems here, not one.

Let people decide for themselves without the incredibly biased views being tossed in their faces.

This is a problem with political parties in general. Which is why I advocate their abolishment.

You seriously believe that the abolition of political parties will lead to democracy? - you are implying is that democracy has not been achieved, I'm not arguing against that. How?

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"][QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"][QUOTE="cametall"]

I love America!

Look at the nations who support us (populace): Poland, Albania, Bosnia. These countries love us because of what we do for the world. They are the small countries that have been aided by America and know what it is like to live under opression (communism).

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

cametall

Should I hate my country?

What do you want me to say? I love England for their poor healthcare! And I love France because they hate everyone! I love Germany because... well I can think of no reason, they're heads are too small so I cannot wear their hats!

also you come off as an ass when you insult other countrys.

plus loling at american calling the english healthcare poor.

Why shouldn't I think we're the best? Because you are unhappy your nation is not a super power? Oh and I am politically incorrect because America lets me be. So I'll insult any country I want.

You are "loling" at poor english healthcare? I don't think having your chances of dying from cancer doubled in the English healthcare system "lol" worthy. Diagnosed with prostate cancer? 52% chane you'll die from it in England, 19% in the US.

And as far as medical procedures go, America is light years ahead of England. People cry about our healthcare system because it isn't free. Guess what? Get a job you live in a capitalist society.

Our healthcare system is not perfect, yes I agree. But to think socialized healthcare is better? No, that is why you do not let the government run things such as healthcare.

I can tell you are going to be an extremely bitter old man once China surpasses the USA in strength and economy.

[QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"][QUOTE="cametall"][QUOTE="-DSFARGEG-"][QUOTE="cametall"]

I love America!

Look at the nations who support us (populace): Poland, Albania, Bosnia. These countries love us because of what we do for the world. They are the small countries that have been aided by America and know what it is like to live under opression (communism).

The nations that despise us? Canada, France, Germany, England, Russia, Italy. These nations have all held a great deal of power (well not Canada, haha) and what did they do with it? Spread communism, oppress the French, oppress the English, oppress the Irish and Scottish, oppress Africa. Sure we did hurt Germany after WWI and had slavery but never destroyed an economy out of spite to the degree these nations (except Canada, haha) punished other nations and races.

Well except Germany, we screwed em pretty bad after WWI (though it was the league of nations too) and they got back at us with Hitler.

cametall

Should I hate my country?

What do you want me to say? I love England for their poor healthcare! And I love France because they hate everyone! I love Germany because... well I can think of no reason, they're heads are too small so I cannot wear their hats!

also you come off as an ass when you insult other countrys.

plus loling at american calling the english healthcare poor.

Why shouldn't I think we're the best? Because you are unhappy your nation is not a super power? Oh and I am politically incorrect because America lets me be. So I'll insult any country I want.

You are "loling" at poor english healthcare? I don't think having your chances of dying from cancer doubled in the English healthcare system "lol" worthy. Diagnosed with prostate cancer? 52% chane you'll die from it in England, 19% in the US.

And as far as medical procedures go, America is light years ahead of England. People cry about our healthcare system because it isn't free. Guess what? Get a job you live in a capitalist society.

Our healthcare system is not perfect, yes I agree. But to think socialized healthcare is better? No, that is why you do not let the government run things such as healthcare.

also I'm not in the mood to discuss the pros and cons of state run healthcare.

Diagnosed with prostate cancer? 52% chane you'll die from it in England, 19% in the US.

cametall

Source?

[QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

The radical right isn't near as big as the radical left, and you know it. So, the radical left is a much bigger problem. Look at the media, at colleges, at certain people in hollywood... Etc...

SpaceMoose

Hence how Bush is in office a second term.

Colleges? You say to look at a subset of a particular age group and consider that representative of the entire population? Please...

The media? What media is radical left except for maybe certain music bands and some blogs that nobody really pays attention to? I would love to know what "radical left" is in your view.

Radical left? Here is radical left.

Keep your posts coming mate, your low degree of seriousity is only working against you and your agenda in a highly discrediting manner. And I find it quite amusing too.

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

Hence how Bush is in office a second term.

Colleges? You say to look at a subset of a particular age group and consider that representative of the entire population? Please...

The media? What media is radical left except for maybe certain music bands and some blogs that nobody really pays attention to? I would love to know what "radical left" is in your view.

Radical left? Here is radical left.

doubutsuteki

Keep your posts coming mate, your low degree of seriousity is only working against you and your agenda in a highly discrediting manner. And I find it quite amusing too.

:question:

[QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

The radical right isn't near as big as the radical left, and you know it. So, the radical left is a much bigger problem. Look at the media, at colleges, at certain people in hollywood... Etc...

doubutsuteki

Hence how Bush is in office a second term.

Colleges? You say to look at a subset of a particular age group and consider that representative of the entire population? Please...

The media? What media is radical left except for maybe certain music bands and some blogs that nobody really pays attention to? I would love to know what "radical left" is in your view.

Radical left? Here is radical left.

Keep your posts coming mate, your low degree of seriousity is only working against you and your agenda in a highly discrediting manner. And I find it quite amusing too.

Yes. How dare you, SpaceMoose, for bringing logic into this conversation!

[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"]

Hence how Bush is in office a second term.

Colleges? You say to look at a subset of a particular age group and consider that representative of the entire population? Please...

The media? What media is radical left except for maybe certain music bands and some blogs that nobody really pays attention to? I would love to know what "radical left" is in your view.

Radical left? Here is radical left.

SpaceMoose

Keep your posts coming mate, your low degree of seriousity is only working against you and your agenda in a highly discrediting manner. And I find it quite amusing too.

:question:

Left-wing parties are socialist, and the Earth Liberation Front is not a socialist organization, but rather a romantic extremist hippie-nazi organization.

Left-wing parties are socialist, and the Earth Liberation Front is not a socialist organization, but rather a romantic extremist hippie-nazi organization.

doubutsuteki

I said they were the "radical left", you know....to contrast with the things the other guy was humorously calling "radical left." Geeze.

Also, it was my first post and you tell me to keep 'em coming...

[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"][QUOTE="SpaceMoose"][QUOTE="MayorJohnny"]

The radical right isn't near as big as the radical left, and you know it. So, the radical left is a much bigger problem. Look at the media, at colleges, at certain people in hollywood... Etc...

JML897

Hence how Bush is in office a second term.

Colleges? You say to look at a subset of a particular age group and consider that representative of the entire population? Please...

The media? What media is radical left except for maybe certain music bands and some blogs that nobody really pays attention to? I would love to know what "radical left" is in your view.

Radical left? Here is radical left.

Keep your posts coming mate, your low degree of seriousity is only working against you and your agenda in a highly discrediting manner. And I find it quite amusing too.

Yes. How dare you, SpaceMoose, for bringing logic into this conversation!

Logic? He brought inaccuracies.

And if you are saying that the "radical left" consists of music bands, you haven't a clue really.

Ha, don't think that I am gonna start loving America. The arguments I hear are pathetic and unconvincing.

The USA is imperialist. Its as if you guys always have to intervene in everything. We all know that the invasion of Iraq was for the oil. As if you cared about the people who we're "oppressed". And why do you keep forcing the UN security council to not intervene in Darfur? (Russia and China are as guilty on that one) Oh right.. its completely unacceptable that Russia or China should get their hands on oil down there. Always trying to get richer, trampling those in your way because they are unimportant. And now lets talk about the anti-missile shield.. hello! the Cold War is over, you don't need to piss off Russia by extending it all the way into western Europe.

Anyway, thats all I have to say for now. You guys won't be on top for ever... one day capitalism shall fall.

[QUOTE="doubutsuteki"]

Left-wing parties are socialist, and the Earth Liberation Front is not a socialist organization, but rather a romantic extremist hippie-nazi organization.

SpaceMoose

I said they were the "radical left", you know....to contrast with the things the other guy was humorously calling "radical left." Geeze.

Also, it was my first post and you tell me to keep 'em coming...

I'm sorry. I confused you with the other guy somehow. Too much going on in my head right now.