How do creationists explain Neanderthals and the other species of man?[NEW POLL]

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.br0kenrabbit

neanderthals were like 4-5 feet tall. definitely not giants

so then explain what that has to do with anything?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

mysterylobster

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

MetalGear_Ninty

Have you ever met Henry VIII, then how do you know he existed?

Great minds think alike, I suppose. :P

More like some people can't read past the first sentence. Am I right?

Oh noez.

Somebody is getting irritated. I can debunk the rest of your post, if you want, would you like that?

I've got another classic.

Can god make a rock so heavy that he cannot lift it?

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

mysterylobster

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="MetalGear_Ninty"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

mysterylobster

Have you ever met Henry VIII, then how do you know he exists?

Historical accounts, etc. We have no such resources to judge whether Neanderthal's existed. All we have are fossils, which as I said, were created by God when he created everything else.

The proof is all there in the Bible, since that is how it is written. I believe that the Bible is the right way to understand the universe.

but we have proof of neanderthals and the bible dosent mention them.

Your proof has been dug up from the Earth, which the Bible says God created.

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

I respect other people's opinions, but in a forum we, you know, discuss things. :Pzakkro

I know, but discussion should not be limited to logic. Off-Topic is living proof of that. :P

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

mysterylobster

sigh... *facepalm*

[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="Genetic_Code"]

Both of you stop. Remember that the topic creator is dealing with a powerful god that can do so whatever he pleases, which includes the manipulation of history. Yes, it's illogical, but so as long as chooses not to be ignorant to the facts as they present themselves (when there could be a god engineering it to appear that way), then I see no other problem with it.Genetic_Code

I know, but he can believe in whatever he wants to. At least he's not denying the existence of Neanderthals or at least from a human understanding. Regardless of how fanatical his approach may be, for all we could know, it could be correct.

His logic was poor, simple as, and I was calling him out on it.

Easy!

God made a mistake, and his perfect creations ate the imperfect.

There, explained off so easily it could be in a book for children.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Just curious. "other species of man" means the others that are also extinct.

Ive never seen an atheist bring this up, and coincidently i never see creationists bring it up.

I usually hate religion threads but I want to see this.

so go.

H8sMikeMoore

Simple. God made it look like the existed, in order to test our faith.

Alternatively, the devil put the fossils there to turn people away from God.

AAAND he made the other galaxies appear to be billions of years away to make us think the universe is older than 6,000 years

Yep. If there is a god, and god is all-powerful, tthere's no reason why he would be UNABLE to do this.

Unfortunately, this paints a slightly more diabolical picture of god. I sort of wonder if that other guy has bothered to think of the implications of what it would mean if god were actually to do this.

[QUOTE="zakkro"]I respect other people's opinions, but in a forum we, you know, discuss things. :PGenetic_Code

I know, but discussion should not be limited to logic. Off-Topic is living proof of that. :P

[QUOTE="zakkro"]I respect other people's opinions, but in a forum we, you know, discuss things. :PGenetic_Code

I know, but discussion should not be limited to logic. Off-Topic is living proof of that. :P

No logic, what? Wait for me to get those scientologists and FSM fanatics in here!

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

taj7575

sigh... *facepalm*

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

H8sMikeMoore

It's not an important story, it's just a few bones that God put on the Earth when he created Man. You see, part of God's magnificence was to create not just Man but to create a world in which he appears to be part of something even greater. I don't think God is angry with Darwinist scientists. I'll bet he's thrilled by their ingenuity in trying to unravel this puzzle. Of course the truth is that they're chasing an illusion.

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

[QUOTE="br0kenrabbit"]Genesis 6:4 There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.H8sMikeMoore

neanderthals were like 4-5 feet tall. definitely not giants

so then explain what that has to do with anything?

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

mysterylobster

It's not an important story, it's just a few bones that God put on the Earth when he created Man. You see, part of God's magnificence was to create not just Man but to create a world in which he appears to be part of something even greater. I don't think God is angry with Darwinist scientists. I'll bet he's thrilled by their ingenuity in trying to unravel this puzzle.

not important? Are you speaking on behalf of god? Sounds very important to me. How do you so arrogantly assume you know what his plan is?

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

The proof is all there in the Bible, since that is how it is written. I believe that the Bible is the right way to understand the universe.

zakkro

Seriously, for all we know it really could have been some guy writing a fake story for entertainment and for some reason people started believing it. The bible also said bats are birds and the earth is flat haha.

Like this, people used to believe in Greek Mythology. Because it didn't use to be myth at all. You tell them that or Native Americans back when that what they believe is myth they wouldnt like you very much.

And Christianity was actually based off other religions. And God wasn't always believed, so when did people randomly start believing in him instead of Athena etc. ?

I don't think there's enough information about all the past forms of humans to regard them as a different species, or to simply even know they existed.orazinac

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

mysterylobster

It's not an important story, it's just a few bones that God put on the Earth when he created Man. You see, part of God's magnificence was to create not just Man but to create a world in which he appears to be part of something even greater. I don't think God is angry with Darwinist scientists. I'll bet he's thrilled by their ingenuity in trying to unravel this puzzle. Of course the truth is that their chasing an illusion.

Or maybe.... he, why is god male?, doesn't exist and your life has been a lie.:D

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

mysterylobster

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

Have you ever met a Neanderthal? No, of course not. You're simply going by what scientists have told you based on fossils dug up from the ground. But how do you know those fossils aren't just as old as us? I believe that God created the Earth around 6,000 years give or take a few hundred years and these fossils that get dug up were created at the same time as man and everything else. In other words, God created an Earth with the illusion of being millions of years old by inserting fossils of creatures that never existed and shaping geographic features. In His magnificance, he made a world for us that appears to be timeless.

MetalGear_Ninty

Have you ever met Henry VIII, then how do you know he existed?

Great minds think alike, I suppose. :P

More like some people can't read past the first sentence. Am I right?

No.

[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

The proof is all there in the Bible, since that is how it is written. I believe that the Bible is the right way to understand the universe.

SouL-Tak3R

Seriously, for all we know it really could have been some guy writing a fake story for entertainment and for some reason people started believing it. The bible also said bats are birds and the earth is flat haha.

Like this, people used to believe in Greek Mythology. Because it didn't use to be myth at all. You tell them that or Native Americans back when that what they believe is myth they wouldnt like you very much.

And Christianity was actually based off other religions. And God wasn't always believed, so when did people randomly start believing in him instead of Athena etc. ?

dont forget that christianity is heavily rooted in polytheism. For anyone that dosent know what that means: theres more than one god.

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

PATH0G3N

It's not an important story, it's just a few bones that God put on the Earth when he created Man. You see, part of God's magnificence was to create not just Man but to create a world in which he appears to be part of something even greater. I don't think God is angry with Darwinist scientists. I'll bet he's thrilled by their ingenuity in trying to unravel this puzzle. Of course the truth is that their chasing an illusion.

Or maybe.... he, why is god male?, doesn't exist and your life has been a lie.:D

why would he have to be male?

Easy!

God made a mistake, and his perfect creations ate the imperfect.

There, explained off so easily it could be in a book for children.

cametall

God doesn't make mistakes.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

mysterylobster

It's not an important story, it's just a few bones that God put on the Earth when he created Man. You see, part of God's magnificence was to create not just Man but to create a world in which he appears to be part of something even greater. I don't think God is angry with Darwinist scientists. I'll bet he's thrilled by their ingenuity in trying to unravel this puzzle. Of course the truth is that their chasing an illusion.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Just curious. "other species of man" means the others that are also extinct.

Ive never seen an atheist bring this up, and coincidently i never see creationists bring it up.

I usually hate religion threads but I want to see this.

so go.

MrGeezer

Simple. God made it look like the existed, in order to test our faith.

Alternatively, the devil put the fossils there to turn people away from God.

where do fossil fuels come from then?

dont forget that christianity is heavily rooted in polytheism. For anyone that dosent know what that means: theres more than one god.

H8sMikeMoore

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

mysterylobster

It's not an important story, it's just a few bones that God put on the Earth when he created Man. You see, part of God's magnificence was to create not just Man but to create a world in which he appears to be part of something even greater. I don't think God is angry with Darwinist scientists. I'll bet he's thrilled by their ingenuity in trying to unravel this puzzle. Of course the truth is that they're chasing an illusion.

A few??

Lol wut..... Sorry bro, but I really dont understand your arguement that ancient fossils are just an illusion?

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

dont forget that christianity is heavily rooted in polytheism. For anyone that dosent know what that means: theres more than one god.

Genetic_Code

It was one god in three forms.

i am NOT talking about the trinity.

I am specifically talking about christianity's roots in the sumerian mythology and the fact that the jews themselves were once polytheists who decided to ignore the other gods. "Thou shalt not worship any god before me"

[QUOTE="orazinac"]I don't think there's enough information about all the past forms of humans to regard them as a different species, or to simply even know they existed.foxhound_fox

Not really. It is a stage of what humans used to be. Like birds used to have teeth, but now they no longer need them. Like humans now, many people are not growing molers anymore because humans do not use them like they did thousands of years ago.

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="orazinac"]I don't think there's enough information about all the past forms of humans to regard them as a different species, or to simply even know they existed.SouL-Tak3R

Not really. It is a stage of what humans used to be. Like birds used to have teeth, but now they no longer need them. Like humans now, many people are not growing molers anymore because humans do not use them like they did thousands of years ago.

humans were never EVER neanderthals. Neanderthals were in Europe when all humans lived in Africa still.

[QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Just curious. "other species of man" means the others that are also extinct.

Ive never seen an atheist bring this up, and coincidently i never see creationists bring it up.

I usually hate religion threads but I want to see this.

so go.

taj7575

Simple. God made it look like the existed, in order to test our faith.

Alternatively, the devil put the fossils there to turn people away from God.

where do fossil fuels come from then?

The fossils that were put there by the devil?

Yep. If there is a god, and god is all-powerful, tthere's no reason why he would be UNABLE to do this.

Unfortunately, this paints a slightly more diabolical picture of god. I sort of wonder if that other guy has bothered to think of the implications of what it would mean if god were actually to do this.

MrGeezer

He is so powerful he can decieve us into thinking the world is so young yet he can't work out imperfections in humans?

[QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

The proof is all there in the Bible, since that is how it is written. I believe that the Bible is the right way to understand the universe.

SouL-Tak3R

Seriously, for all we know it really could have been some guy writing a fake story for entertainment and for some reason people started believing it. The bible also said bats are birds and the earth is flat haha.

Like this, people used to believe in Greek Mythology. Because it didn't use to be myth at all. You tell them that or Native Americans back when that what they believe is myth they wouldnt like you very much.

And Christianity was actually based off other religions. And God wasn't always believed, so when did people randomly start believing in him instead of Athena etc. ?

Religion was formed to help man cope with fear of death, it evolved through the ages itself and people saw the power it held. Religious leaders became corrupted with all of that power. Like massive government, organized religion doesn't work well because of the massive amounts of power it holds.

Back to your statement, you are abosultely correct, if you believe in god then why dont you believe in the greek/roman gods? "Well theyre different.." no, they arent. The abrahamic religions will just fade away eventually and go down in history as more mythology.

i am NOT talking about the trinity.

I am specifically talking about christianity's roots in the sumerian mythology and the fact that the jews themselves were once polytheists who decided to ignore the other gods. "Thou shalt not worship any god before me"

H8sMikeMoore

I apologize then for the misunderstanding. That, I cannot debate for I do not know if Christianity ever offered clarification on that belief.

[QUOTE="mysterylobster"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

and how do you know god created it? Why dosent the bible mention neanderthals? You'd think that would be an important story in the creation of man. Remember, its a complete FACT that they existed and were a seperate yet related species.

SIapshot

It's not an important story, it's just a few bones that God put on the Earth when he created Man. You see, part of God's magnificence was to create not just Man but to create a world in which he appears to be part of something even greater. I don't think God is angry with Darwinist scientists. I'll bet he's thrilled by their ingenuity in trying to unravel this puzzle. Of course the truth is that their chasing an illusion.

It's not a lie, just an illusion. God never lied to us and said He didn't create the Earth. It's written right there in the Bible.

So why would God make the illusion of the Earth being older than it really is? That's a good question, and one that's not easy to answer. I will just say that it was part of his awesome design to remind us that we are part of something even greater.

[QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

dont forget that christianity is heavily rooted in polytheism. For anyone that dosent know what that means: theres more than one god.

H8sMikeMoore

It was one god in three forms.

i am NOT talking about the trinity.

I am specifically talking about christianity's roots in the sumerian mythology and the fact that the jews themselves were once polytheists who decided to ignore the other gods. "Thou shalt not worship any god before me"

Exactly right. I learned much about religions from a humanities class I took and how religions now were pretty much based and extended from others and added their own stuff into the bible.

[QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Just curious. "other species of man" means the others that are also extinct.

Ive never seen an atheist bring this up, and coincidently i never see creationists bring it up.

I usually hate religion threads but I want to see this.

so go.

Funky_Llama

Simple. God made it look like the existed, in order to test our faith.

Alternatively, the devil put the fossils there to turn people away from God.

where do fossil fuels come from then?

The fossils that were put there by the devil?

fossil fuels took hundreds of millions of years to form. If the earth was so young, how could it be there?

or wait...can it be the DEVILS PISS?

ITS A CONSPIRACY :o

(sarcasm...)

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Just curious. "other species of man" means the others that are also extinct.

Ive never seen an atheist bring this up, and coincidently i never see creationists bring it up.

I usually hate religion threads but I want to see this.

so go.

taj7575

Simple. God made it look like the existed, in order to test our faith.

Alternatively, the devil put the fossils there to turn people away from God.

where do fossil fuels come from then?

The fossils that were put there by the devil?

fossil fuels took hundreds of millions of years to form. If the earth was so young, how could it be there?

or wait...can it be the DEVILS PISS?

ITS A CONSPIRACY :o

(sarcasm...)

Oh please. If god is powerful enough to create the entire universe, then I think it should be a simple task to make fossil fuels that merely LOOK older than they really are.

[QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

dont forget that christianity is heavily rooted in polytheism. For anyone that dosent know what that means: theres more than one god.

SouL-Tak3R

It was one god in three forms.

i am NOT talking about the trinity.

I am specifically talking about christianity's roots in the sumerian mythology and the fact that the jews themselves were once polytheists who decided to ignore the other gods. "Thou shalt not worship any god before me"

Exactly right. I learned much about religions from a humanities class I took and how religions now were pretty much based and extended from others and added their own stuff into the bible.

But according to concept of religons like Islam and Bah'ai faith, all religions were basically sent by God. They got corrupted overtime. So if they actually containthings which are common, that doesnot neccessarily mean they are copied. They have been sent from the same source.......

[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"]

[QUOTE="foxhound_fox"][QUOTE="orazinac"]I don't think there's enough information about all the past forms of humans to regard them as a different species, or to simply even know they existed.H8sMikeMoore

Not really. It is a stage of what humans used to be. Like birds used to have teeth, but now they no longer need them. Like humans now, many people are not growing molers anymore because humans do not use them like they did thousands of years ago.

humans were never EVER neanderthals. Neanderthals were in Europe when all humans lived in Africa still.

They have a special coming up soon about this. I'm watching the commerical now.

Its going to be on the nathional geo channel Sunday. Neanderthals arent the only form of previous human evolution either.

Humans were split up. They werent only in Africa. But remember Pangaea. It was all one giant land at one point. That is how species were seperated and that is why there are different species of birds and have differerent shaped beaks. They adapted and evolved.

Back to your statement, you are abosultely correct, if you believe in god then why dont you believe in the greek/roman gods? "Well theyre different.." no, they arent.

Well, yes they are different. The Christian God isn't just some character made up by man, he exists as something greater--a concept of a being that's infinitely wise, all loving and all powerful. So He's not just some God, but simply the only thing in the Universe which no other thing may be greater. That's why God must exist, because the greatest thing in the universe must have the attribute of "existence," since that which exists is greater than something that's just in your imagination. Praise Him!

It's not a lie, just an illusion.

mysterylobster

Stop arguing semantics. What you're claiming would be deliberate deception on God's part, ie a lie.

So why would God make the illusion of the Earth being older than it really is? That's a good question, and one that's not easy to answer. I will just say that it was part of his awesome design to remind us that we are part of something even greater.

mysterylobster

:lol: How the hell does that work? How would God lying to us - sorry, making an illusion - remind us that we are 'part of something even greater'?

[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"][QUOTE="zakkro"][QUOTE="mysterylobster"]

The proof is all there in the Bible, since that is how it is written. I believe that the Bible is the right way to understand the universe.

PATH0G3N

Seriously, for all we know it really could have been some guy writing a fake story for entertainment and for some reason people started believing it. The bible also said bats are birds and the earth is flat haha.

Like this, people used to believe in Greek Mythology. Because it didn't use to be myth at all. You tell them that or Native Americans back when that what they believe is myth they wouldnt like you very much.

And Christianity was actually based off other religions. And God wasn't always believed, so when did people randomly start believing in him instead of Athena etc. ?

Religion was formed to help man cope with fear of death, it evolved through the ages itself and people saw the power it held. Religious leaders became corrupted with all of that power. Like massive government, organized religion doesn't work well because of the massive amounts of power it holds.

Back to your statement, you are abosultely correct, if you believe in god then why dont you believe in the greek/roman gods? "Well theyre different.." no, they arent. The abrahamic religions will just fade away eventually and go down in history as more mythology.

Thats pretty much what I believe.

Not really. It is a stage of what humans used to be. Like birds used to have teeth, but now they no longer need them. Like humans now, many people are not growing molers anymore because humans do not use them like they did thousands of years ago. SouL-Tak3R

They got corrupted overtime.

MFaraz_Hayat

But not Islam? :roll:

[QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="taj7575"][QUOTE="MrGeezer"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

Just curious. "other species of man" means the others that are also extinct.

Ive never seen an atheist bring this up, and coincidently i never see creationists bring it up.

I usually hate religion threads but I want to see this.

so go.

MrGeezer

Simple. God made it look like the existed, in order to test our faith.

Alternatively, the devil put the fossils there to turn people away from God.

where do fossil fuels come from then?

The fossils that were put there by the devil?

fossil fuels took hundreds of millions of years to form. If the earth was so young, how could it be there?

or wait...can it be the DEVILS PISS?

ITS A CONSPIRACY :o

(sarcasm...)

Oh please. If god is powerful enough to create the entire universe, then I think it should be a simple task to make fossil fuels that merely LOOK older than they really are.

if god is so powerful can he create something that he cannot lift?

[QUOTE="MFaraz_Hayat"]

They got corrupted overtime.

Funky_Llama

But not Islam? :roll:

Well, the Quranic text has not been changed......... By corruption I meant, that the religious texts had been changed in some manner.

fossil fuels took hundreds of millions of years to form. If the earth was so young, how could it be there?

taj7575

Ooh, I'm going to have to use that in my next debate with young-earth creationists.

or wait...can it be the DEVILS PISS?

taj7575

You made me spit out my drink! :lol:

[QUOTE="SouL-Tak3R"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"][QUOTE="Genetic_Code"][QUOTE="H8sMikeMoore"]

dont forget that christianity is heavily rooted in polytheism. For anyone that dosent know what that means: theres more than one god.

MFaraz_Hayat

It was one god in three forms.

i am NOT talking about the trinity.

I am specifically talking about christianity's roots in the sumerian mythology and the fact that the jews themselves were once polytheists who decided to ignore the other gods. "Thou shalt not worship any god before me"

Exactly right. I learned much about religions from a humanities class I took and how religions now were pretty much based and extended from others and added their own stuff into the bible.

But according to concept of religons like Islam and Bah'ai faith, all religions were basically sent by God. They got corrupted overtime. So if they actually containthings which are common, that doesnot neccessarily mean they are copied. They have been sent from the same source.......

but not according to christianity.