Huh..what the....how many people eat bunnies? Why not say if you give a kid a chicken nugget and an apple, and the kid ...aw forget it...stupid topic is stupid.
I totally respect you being a Vegan TC, just not a TC.
Huh..what the....how many people eat bunnies? Why not say if you give a kid a chicken nugget and an apple, and the kid ...aw forget it...stupid topic is stupid.
I totally respect you being a Vegan TC, just not a TC.
I only wish there was more mainstream research being done on the no-carb diet. (much better than the low-carb diet)British_Azimio
There isn't much research on a NO-carb diet because it's generally considered to be both needless and potentially damaging to a number of organs, from the liver to the brain.
[QUOTE="British_Azimio"]I only wish there was more mainstream research being done on the no-carb diet. (much better than the low-carb diet)Inconsistancy
Wat?!?!? No carb = dead, unless you've mastered photosynthesis. Maybe I'm taking it too literally, and you're just cutting pure sugar. No, you're incorrect. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ketosis I would argue that to go to the length of NO-carbs takes Ketosis to an unhealthy extreme, but you have two distinct metabolic pathways, one for "burning" glucose, and the other ketones.
That's your rational? Let's take a person and give them an easily exploitable resource and one which they don't have the tools and knowledge to exploit. Which do you think they'll use first? That's like saying give a kid a ball and a completely unassembled computer. The day the kid puts together the computer instead of playing with the ball is the day I go on the internet.dagreenfish
This guy basically says it. Your argument has a foundation made out of molten cheese.
The world is a mixed bag, if you don't enjoy eating meat then don't eat it. One thing isn't any more natural than the other.
If you gave a baby a slice of ham and a stick of celery, I guarantee you that the baby would eat the ham and not the celery. What does that prove? not alot...
i really think ppl that do not eat animels have better moral sense then meat eaters.
yomanjdf
So no compassion for the millions of rabbits and field mice that are caught up in massive combine tractors? No love for the millions of insects that are poisioned by the pesticides sprayed on crops just for that purpose? No care for the migrant farm workers who are treated little better than slaves when they pick the fruits and veggies you eat?
i really think ppl that do not eat animels have better moral sense then meat eaters.
yomanjdf
I find the opposite to be true. Plants are the primary energy producers on the planet and are already burdened by being consumed by animals. We as humans, have the option of lightening that burden on the world's primary energy producers by choosing to eat only animals. By choosing to do that, we aren't causing any more undue harm to the poor over-burdened plants of the world. It is my moral duty to eat more animals.
I believe in the extermination of forests and woodlands so that we can all grow more plants and not eat any more poor animals that the horrible meat eaters are torturing. We should also let all the farm animals roam free in the wild.
Are you concerned about a distributed nervous system, or only animals with a true central nervous system? I mean, it's true that say... lobsters have a nervous system, but not brains, just a handful of small ganglions along a central "track".
I believe in the extermination of forests and woodlands so that we can all grow more plants and not eat any more poor animals that the horrible meat eaters are torturing. We should also let all the farm animals roam free in the wild.Crunchy_Nuts
First, I'm not a vegitarian or vegan. Second... you do realize that we already have enough land to grow sufficient crops to feed the planet, right? That we use much of it to grow fuel crops, or crops for oil, and animal feed only matters if we still feed animals and base our growth on that economy. If we all went vegitarian (not vegan), we could actually reduce our total cropland by a fairly staggering amount... and it would also collapse the world food economy. Still, the idea that vegitarian = more farmland is actually the reverse. Mind you, I don't think most people would be happy with diets cosnisting largely of barley, wheat, sorgum and rice. Still, it DOES work on paper.
[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"]I believe in the extermination of forests and woodlands so that we can all grow more plants and not eat any more poor animals that the horrible meat eaters are torturing. We should also let all the farm animals roam free in the wild.Frame_Dragger
First, I'm not a vegitarian or vegan. Second... you do realize that we already have enough land to grow sufficient crops to feed the planet, right? That we use much of it to grow fuel crops, or crops for oil, and animal feed only matters if we still feed animals and base our growth on that economy. If we all went vegitarian (not vegan), we could actually reduce our total cropland by a fairly staggering amount... and it would also collapse the world food economy. Still, the idea that vegitarian = more farmland is actually the reverse. Mind you, I don't think most people would be happy with diets cosnisting largely of barley, wheat, sorgum and rice. Still, it DOES work on paper. Yes, but think of the animals. When was the last time you heard of a bunny or a cow try to eat a human. What have they done to deserve this fate?
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"]I believe in the extermination of forests and woodlands so that we can all grow more plants and not eat any more poor animals that the horrible meat eaters are torturing. We should also let all the farm animals roam free in the wild.Crunchy_Nuts
First, I'm not a vegitarian or vegan. Second... you do realize that we already have enough land to grow sufficient crops to feed the planet, right? That we use much of it to grow fuel crops, or crops for oil, and animal feed only matters if we still feed animals and base our growth on that economy. If we all went vegitarian (not vegan), we could actually reduce our total cropland by a fairly staggering amount... and it would also collapse the world food economy. Still, the idea that vegitarian = more farmland is actually the reverse. Mind you, I don't think most people would be happy with diets cosnisting largely of barley, wheat, sorgum and rice. Still, it DOES work on paper. Yes, but think of the animals. When was the last time you heard of a bunny or a cow try to eat a human. What have they done to deserve this fate?
[QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"] Yes, but think of the animals. When was the last time you heard of a bunny or a cow try to eat a human. What have they done to deserve this fate?By that logic, any carnivorous animal is fair game for eating. Mmm....bear steaks. Sounds tough.
[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"][QUOTE="Crunchy_Nuts"]I believe in the extermination of forests and woodlands so that we can all grow more plants and not eat any more poor animals that the horrible meat eaters are torturing. We should also let all the farm animals roam free in the wild.Crunchy_Nuts
First, I'm not a vegitarian or vegan. Second... you do realize that we already have enough land to grow sufficient crops to feed the planet, right? That we use much of it to grow fuel crops, or crops for oil, and animal feed only matters if we still feed animals and base our growth on that economy. If we all went vegitarian (not vegan), we could actually reduce our total cropland by a fairly staggering amount... and it would also collapse the world food economy. Still, the idea that vegitarian = more farmland is actually the reverse. Mind you, I don't think most people would be happy with diets cosnisting largely of barley, wheat, sorgum and rice. Still, it DOES work on paper. Yes, but think of the animals. When was the last time you heard of a bunny or a cow try to eat a human. What have they done to deserve this fate? I don't understand? My point wasn't in favor of being vegitarian or vegan, I'm not either and not promoting either. All I've said is that far from having to expand cropland, you would reduce in a vegitarian world. Your response makes 0 sense.
Anyway. Assuming you leave the kid, the rabbit and the apple alone together, for a week or more with no food = Eventually the kid'll damn well eat the rabbit.
But if he'd been shown beforehand to kill and clean and cook it humanely by a omnivore society I dare say he'd like it more than if he was ignorant on that subject and had to eat it bloody and raw.
monty python would like a word with youblackacidevil96
He sounds like a person who would wear snake skin, absolutely detestable.
By that logic, any carnivorous animal is fair game for eating. Mmm....bear steaks. Sounds tough.The_Zoid
No, we no longer need to eat meat. It is no longer a natural requirement as we can get all the missing nutrition from pills. They are much more humane than animal torture.
I don't understand? My point wasn't in favor of being vegitarian or vegan, I'm not either and not promoting either. All I've said is that far from having to expand cropland, you would reduce in a vegitarian world. Your response makes 0 sense.Frame_Dragger
[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"] He sounds like a person who would wear snake skin, absolutely detestable. [QUOTE="The_Zoid"]By that logic, any carnivorous animal is fair game for eating. Mmm....bear steaks. Sounds tough.Crunchy_Nuts
No, we no longer need to eat meat. It is no longer a natural requirement as we can get all the missing nutrition from pills. They are much more humane than animal torture.
I don't understand? My point wasn't in favor of being vegitarian or vegan, I'm not either and not promoting either. All I've said is that far from having to expand cropland, you would reduce in a vegitarian world. Your response makes 0 sense.Frame_Dragger
I think it is your response tham sense.
its is no longer a requirement to eat meat. it is however a NATURAL requirement. seeing as pills are unnatural.
more importantly steak tastes good. pills do not. enjoy your ground up iron supplements sprinkled over carrots.
its is no longer a requirement to eat meat. it is however a NATURAL requirement. seeing as pills are unnatural.
more importantly steak tastes good. pills do not. enjoy your ground up iron supplements sprinkled over carrots.blackacidevil96
Sure meat does taste damn good, fried, grilled, baked, or whatever. However is mercilessly murdering a cow just for pleasure worth it? I can not with good conscience say it is.
[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]its is no longer a requirement to eat meat. it is however a NATURAL requirement. seeing as pills are unnatural.
more importantly steak tastes good. pills do not. enjoy your ground up iron supplements sprinkled over carrots.Crunchy_Nuts
Sure meat does taste damn good, fried, grilled, baked, or whatever. However is mercilessly murdering a cow just for pleasure worth it? I can not with good conscience say it is. What else is a cow gonna do?
[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]its is no longer a requirement to eat meat. it is however a NATURAL requirement. seeing as pills are unnatural.
more importantly steak tastes good. pills do not. enjoy your ground up iron supplements sprinkled over carrots.Crunchy_Nuts
Sure meat does taste damn good, fried, grilled, baked, or whatever. However is mercilessly murdering a cow just for pleasure worth it? I can not with good conscience say it is.
yes.....yes it is perfectly fine to kill animals for food. in the words of maddox, for every animal you dont eat, i will eat three
[QUOTE="blackacidevil96"]its is no longer a requirement to eat meat. it is however a NATURAL requirement. seeing as pills are unnatural.
more importantly steak tastes good. pills do not. enjoy your ground up iron supplements sprinkled over carrots.
Sure meat does taste damn good, fried, grilled, baked, or whatever. However is mercilessly murdering a cow just for pleasure worth it? I can not with good conscience say it is. Yes. It is. They're animals. It's one thing if we were "murdering" one another to eat, but we're not. I'm not sure why you chose the word murder... Murder is the killing of another human being.. not animals. You don't understand how much the meat market keeps our economy from crumbling. Agriculture is the largest industry in the US. Sure, that includes crops, but the majority of it is meat.
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