[QUOTE="Frame_Dragger"]
[QUOTE="yomanjdf"]
i think that people that killed so many of their brothers in the world wars just 60 years ago
and a world that fight for human rights for the first time in this days we live in
is having to much trouble to Be asked to have mercy of animels.
u will say anythink in order to have ur steak and enjoy feeling a strong domminnet race over others just likethousents of years over people
pills are not natural but even meat eaters take them too. its for ppl who have probs of getting the vitamins from any source
almost 500 miliion people around the world do not eat meat - in india, africa, china, europe , use - also some people that take care of thier health
they all crazy or maybe the ones that eat dead bodiesthis is a video of a lecture ull nerer forget - this is the truth:
i have i new question !!
would u take ur babies to a meat industery and slauter house and explain how u murder this animals?u dont - its not human!
worlock77
Wow... either you're running one hell of a joke thread, or you're dangerously out of touch with reality. No offense meant, but if you really think that you're preaching something meaningful to a captive audience, think again. Until this post of yours, I assumed this was a joke thread... now... I think you're serious. Equating the ingrained desire to eat certain foods, including other animals with a desire to be dominant is not a sane assertion. Your fixation on meat as "dead bodies" is also getting just a tad disturbing. Yeah... it's dead meat, literally... and? You leap from there to cannibalism, which is again... not a particularly sane assertion. Most mammals don't egnage in cannibalism, presumably as an evolutionary defense. The primates that cannibalized probably died from prion diseases of one kind or another.
As for your "questions"... you keep characterizing killing animals murder, which is begging the question. In any case, what would be the value of taking a baby to a slaughterhouse? By the same token, would you show a baby how a wheat thresher works? No... they're ****ing babies. Of course, remember that butchers are all over the world, they have kids, and at a young age those kids DO learn the trade. I have a good irish friend, and she was indeed taught about her father's butchery and shop at a very young age. For the MAJORITY of human history, people of all ages, including babies witnessed animals being captured, killed, and especially butchered. It is in fact, far more human than our artificial system of centralizing food sources.
Homo Sapiens Sapiens has been around for at least 50,000 years yomanjdf, and we've had specialized jobs for a tiny slice of that history. If you consider anatomically modern humans, that's more like 200,000 years, during which there was nothing even remotely like a butcher... just people. We are OMNIVORES, and have been for at least 200,000 years. Babies saw everything, including butchering. It's VERY human... and for 190,000 of those 200,000 years we hunted for the protein we needed. 50,000 of those years involved stone weapons, and somewhere between 10-12 thousand years ago we domesticated sheep. Humans have been raising animals SPECIFICALLY for the ultimate purpose of slaughtering them and eating them for at LEAST that long.
In order of domestication: Bees 13,000 years ago, Sheep and Dog around 12,000 years ago, and the first cultivated grain? Barley, 10,000 years ago. At no point during any of that history did you have vegans... you had people who ate what they could get, and it wasn't from a butcher, but you did it yourself. So... which is more human: eating the diet anatomically modern humans have evolved to eat, and have been eating for 200,000 years, or a modern fad that is the result of an obscene excess of specialized foods and resources?
I'm not saying that every meal should be a steak, or chicken, or goat... "modern" cultures like far more meat than is healthy for us, in general. The thing is... a balanced diet has to be BALANCED... that mean you eat grains, fruits, vegitables, legumes... and fish, eggs, meat, etc. The truth is that if your figures are right then there are 500 million people out of roughly 7 BILLION who subsist on diets which don't involve meat. Frankly... I have doubts about that, but I'm getting the idea that you don't understand the difference between vegitarian and vegan anyway. I'm also not clear where you stand on consuming fish, mollusks, and products derived from animals such as milk, and eggs. There are not 500 million vegans... and if you mean strict vegitarians ecxluding people who are in famine-regions, you don't have 500 million of those either.
So... if you're serious, then get your facts straight before you start another repetative rant about murder. If you're joking... it's gotten stale. If you just want to lecture... right a ****ing blog.
Great post. Sadly I doubt the TC will read a word of it.
Thank you worlock... and yeah, I have similar doubts. Still... it was fun to write and consider, and there are others with whom I'd have a similar argument. It never hurts to refine a view!
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