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Numbers will subdue technology. It's been proven numerous times in history, the Battle of Stalingrad, the Battle of Moscow, the Battle of the Bulge, just to name a few. So far as I know, China can call upon a third of its population to serve in the armed forces, which would outnumber the entire population of the United States.tycoonmike
[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]First off, the number of men in the military is virtually irrelevant. Our military is at its smallest size in history. We were numbered around 4.4 million around WWI, now we are down to approximately 2.2 million. This is because we have become more efficient. We use better weaponry, we have better training, more experienced leaders, and we have an effective infrastructure. We could arbitrarily increase and decrease the amount of men in the military and it wouldn't make a bit of difference, we would be equally effective, just with more men at hand for ground operations.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]You keep telling my that my claims are unaware and naive........you wont tell me why.......Chinas military isnt stronger than the United States? Well It can get up to 10 times bigger than America's and keep in mind that the majority of Americas army is stretched thin........so you're not refering to that when you call me naive...jointed
It's not irrelevant when the opposing army is that much larger.....and it's not like China has stone age equippment......as I said, they upgraded their WHOLE army......It's basically the same as the united states only much bigger and with an inferior airforce....and no it's not like 200% inferior
It wouldn't matter if it were a billion against a million. If there is a considerably greater strategic and tactical advantage on one side, it just means more dead.no,
just look at the russians during world war 2, they only gave their soldiers a rifle and 2 ammo clips and look what they accomplished.......It is true that numbers arent everything but when it comes to this many troops more and such a little technological advantage it's not irrelevant
GO I dare you look up how many russians lost they're lifes during WWII[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="jointed"]First off, the number of men in the military is virtually irrelevant. Our military is at its smallest size in history. We were numbered around 4.4 million around WWI, now we are down to approximately 2.2 million. This is because we have become more efficient. We use better weaponry, we have better training, more experienced leaders, and we have an effective infrastructure. We could arbitrarily increase and decrease the amount of men in the military and it wouldn't make a bit of difference, we would be equally effective, just with more men at hand for ground operations.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]You keep telling my that my claims are unaware and naive........you wont tell me why.......Chinas military isnt stronger than the United States? Well It can get up to 10 times bigger than America's and keep in mind that the majority of Americas army is stretched thin........so you're not refering to that when you call me naive...jointed
It's not irrelevant when the opposing army is that much larger.....and it's not like China has stone age equippment......as I said, they upgraded their WHOLE army......It's basically the same as the united states only much bigger and with an inferior airforce....and no it's not like 200% inferior
it is no where near the technology of the US military, you need to do some research before you do ignorant posts like thatno where near? well for starters ..their tanks and their infantry eqippment is more modern than americas...
You are, very, very, very, wrong about this. The standard weapon of the Chinese army is still the Ak-47, which, last I checked, was older then even the M-14.
no I'm not wrong at all....The standard Chinese assault rifle is QBZ-95....
Their tanks are simply better than the Abrams.....
M1A2 abrams is the most advanced Main battle tank in existance, many refer to it as being a class of its own simply outmatching every tank in speed, range and firepower. the fire control system coupled with armor and m256 120mm smoothbore cannon give it an unprecedented advantage on the battle field. There have been constests to see what the best tank in th world was, in all cases the abrams won, Beating out the Challenger 2, Leapord 2, Le clerc and Merkava. in its entire service only 18 Abrams have been damaged or destroyed, and its numbers in the thousands give Americas M1 abrams the win for the best tank in the world
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]First off, the number of men in the military is virtually irrelevant. Our military is at its smallest size in history. We were numbered around 4.4 million around WWI, now we are down to approximately 2.2 million. This is because we have become more efficient. We use better weaponry, we have better training, more experienced leaders, and we have an effective infrastructure. We could arbitrarily increase and decrease the amount of men in the military and it wouldn't make a bit of difference, we would be equally effective, just with more men at hand for ground operations.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]You keep telling my that my claims are unaware and naive........you wont tell me why.......Chinas military isnt stronger than the United States? Well It can get up to 10 times bigger than America's and keep in mind that the majority of Americas army is stretched thin........so you're not refering to that when you call me naive...mark4091
It's not irrelevant when the opposing army is that much larger.....and it's not like China has stone age equippment......as I said, they upgraded their WHOLE army......It's basically the same as the united states only much bigger and with an inferior airforce....and no it's not like 200% inferior
It wouldn't matter if it were a billion against a million. If there is a considerably greater strategic and tactical advantage on one side, it just means more dead.no,
just look at the russians during world war 2, they only gave their soldiers a rifle and 2 ammo clips and look what they accomplished.......It is true that numbers arent everything but when it comes to this many troops more and such a little technological advantage it's not irrelevant
GO I dare you look up how many russians lost they're lifes during WWIIthat's exactly my point......very many......
I'll let you in on something: World War II will never be refought. Making assumptions about modern warfare based upon the battles of World War II will only lead you astray. Today we would need only a few missiles and all of Russia's men would have been wiped out.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"] just look at the russians during world war 2, they only gave their soldiers a rifle and 2 ammo clips and look what they accomplished.......It is true that numbers arent everything but when it comes to this many troops more and such a little technological advantage it's not irrelevantjointed
Dude IÂ were showing you an example.........No matter how much more superior the german wermacht were they couldnt hold the russians back....the same goes for america and the Chinese......
You should look at a more modern example. The Israeli-Arab wars for instance. The Israelis used western tactics, weapons, training, and though they were heavily outnumbered, they decisively defeated the opposition which was using soviet weaponry, tactics, and trainingI'll let you in on something: World War II will never be refought. Making assumptions about modern warfare based upon the battles of World War II will only lead you astray. Today we would need only a few missiles and all of Russia's men would have been wiped out.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"] just look at the russians during world war 2, they only gave their soldiers a rifle and 2 ammo clips and look what they accomplished.......It is true that numbers arent everything but when it comes to this many troops more and such a little technological advantage it's not irrelevantjointed
Dude I were showing you an example.........No matter how much more superior the german wermacht were they couldnt hold the russians back....the same goes for america and the Chinese......
And, your example is stupid. You have no concept of modern warfare. It's amusing that anyone over the age of seven would attempt to reduce something as complex as military strength and efficacy to the argument "more men = better." If we needed a larger military we would have a larger military.[QUOTE="CaptHawkeye"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="UrbanSpartan125"][QUOTE="jointed"]First off, the number of men in the military is virtually irrelevant. Our military is at its smallest size in history. We were numbered around 4.4 million around WWI, now we are down to approximately 2.2 million. This is because we have become more efficient. We use better weaponry, we have better training, more experienced leaders, and we have an effective infrastructure. We could arbitrarily increase and decrease the amount of men in the military and it wouldn't make a bit of difference, we would be equally effective, just with more men at hand for ground operations.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]You keep telling my that my claims are unaware and naive........you wont tell me why.......Chinas military isnt stronger than the United States? Well It can get up to 10 times bigger than America's and keep in mind that the majority of Americas army is stretched thin........so you're not refering to that when you call me naive...jointed
It's not irrelevant when the opposing army is that much larger.....and it's not like China has stone age equippment......as I said, they upgraded their WHOLE army......It's basically the same as the united states only much bigger and with an inferior airforce....and no it's not like 200% inferior
it is no where near the technology of the US military, you need to do some research before you do ignorant posts like thatno where near? well for starters ..their tanks and their infantry eqippment is more modern than americas...
You are, very, very, very, wrong about this. The standard weapon of the Chinese army is still the Ak-47, which, last I checked, was older then even the M-14.
no I'm not wrong at all....The standard Chinese assault rifle is QBZ-95....
Their tanks are simply better than the Abrams.....
Considering the Chinese Type 90 tank, which is their most expensive and advanced tank, doesn't even have a fire control system which is basic in all current armor, you'd be wrong about that one as well.
Christ, even French tanks have fire control systems.
The QZB-95 has not been used in any military situation, thus you cannot say it is "superior" to American weapons. While you're at it, take the time to actually read up on the design. It is hardly superior to any current standard army weapon.
[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]Numbers will subdue technology. It's been proven numerous times in history, the Battle of Stalingrad, the Battle of Moscow, the Battle of the Bulge, just to name a few. So far as I know, China can call upon a third of its population to serve in the armed forces, which would outnumber the entire population of the United States.chip_money
[QUOTE="chip_money"][QUOTE="tycoonmike"]Numbers will subdue technology. It's been proven numerous times in history, the Battle of Stalingrad, the Battle of Moscow, the Battle of the Bulge, just to name a few. So far as I know, China can call upon a third of its population to serve in the armed forces, which would outnumber the entire population of the United States.tycoonmike
[QUOTE="mark4091"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]First off, the number of men in the military is virtually irrelevant. Our military is at its smallest size in history. We were numbered around 4.4 million around WWI, now we are down to approximately 2.2 million. This is because we have become more efficient. We use better weaponry, we have better training, more experienced leaders, and we have an effective infrastructure. We could arbitrarily increase and decrease the amount of men in the military and it wouldn't make a bit of difference, we would be equally effective, just with more men at hand for ground operations.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]You keep telling my that my claims are unaware and naive........you wont tell me why.......Chinas military isnt stronger than the United States? Well It can get up to 10 times bigger than America's and keep in mind that the majority of Americas army is stretched thin........so you're not refering to that when you call me naive...jointed
It's not irrelevant when the opposing army is that much larger.....and it's not like China has stone age equippment......as I said, they upgraded their WHOLE army......It's basically the same as the united states only much bigger and with an inferior airforce....and no it's not like 200% inferior
It wouldn't matter if it were a billion against a million. If there is a considerably greater strategic and tactical advantage on one side, it just means more dead.no,
just look at the russians during world war 2, they only gave their soldiers a rifle and 2 ammo clips and look what they accomplished.......It is true that numbers arent everything but when it comes to this many troops more and such a little technological advantage it's not irrelevant
GO I dare you look up how many russians lost they're lifes during WWIIthat's exactly my point......very many......
yeah, but its not the 1940's german scientists were working on nuclear weapons as the germans were taking over russia, many russians died but now many chinese could not do the same thing against the US, 25,000 warheads says so.[QUOTE="tycoonmike"][QUOTE="chip_money"][QUOTE="tycoonmike"]Numbers will subdue technology. It's been proven numerous times in history, the Battle of Stalingrad, the Battle of Moscow, the Battle of the Bulge, just to name a few. So far as I know, China can call upon a third of its population to serve in the armed forces, which would outnumber the entire population of the United States.bt_the_great_78
[QUOTE="jointed"]I'll let you in on something: World War II will never be refought. Making assumptions about modern warfare based upon the battles of World War II will only lead you astray. Today we would need only a few missiles and all of Russia's men would have been wiped out.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"] just look at the russians during world war 2, they only gave their soldiers a rifle and 2 ammo clips and look what they accomplished.......It is true that numbers arent everything but when it comes to this many troops more and such a little technological advantage it's not irrelevantbt_the_great_78
Dude I were showing you an example.........No matter how much more superior the german wermacht were they couldnt hold the russians back....the same goes for america and the Chinese......
And, your example is stupid. You have no concept of modern warfare. It's amusing that anyone over the age of seven would attempt to reduce something as complex as military strength and efficacy to the argument "more men = better." If we needed a larger military we would have a larger military.are you being serious?
They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....
and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....
You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......
there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army stronger
[QUOTE="jointed"]I'll let you in on something: World War II will never be refought. Making assumptions about modern warfare based upon the battles of World War II will only lead you astray. Today we would need only a few missiles and all of Russia's men would have been wiped out.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"] just look at the russians during world war 2, they only gave their soldiers a rifle and 2 ammo clips and look what they accomplished.......It is true that numbers arent everything but when it comes to this many troops more and such a little technological advantage it's not irrelevantbt_the_great_78
Dude I were showing you an example.........No matter how much more superior the german wermacht were they couldnt hold the russians back....the same goes for america and the Chinese......
And, your example is stupid. You have no concept of modern warfare. It's amusing that anyone over the age of seven would attempt to reduce something as complex as military strength and efficacy to the argument "more men = better." If we needed a larger military we would have a larger military.More men does equal better because it takes men to run the machines of war. It just so happens that because we were able to stare the Soviet Union down and because of the fact that if any country so much as blinks at us we invade them and because of our clearly superior nuclear capabilities that we don't need a huge army. If the Soviet Union were still around, we would need a huge army because there would actually be a threat to our survival.
Generally, the Chinese are much more disciplined than the US and they aren't 2 trillion dollars in debt. ghost_909
The US military is disciplined and well trained. We are also ahead technologically. Defense spending is high as well.
are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerjointedYes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.
More men does equal better because it takes men to run the machines of war. It just so happens that because we were able to stare the Soviet Union down and because of the fact that if any country so much as blinks at us we invade them and because of our clearly superior nuclear capabilities that we don't need a huge army. If the Soviet Union were still around, we would need a huge army because there would actually be a threat to our survival.Oh for christ sake. I feel like I'm talking to my six year old.
tycoonmike
[QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerbt_the_great_78Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
[QUOTE="ghost_909"]Generally, the Chinese are much more disciplined than the US and they aren't 2 trillion dollars in debt. LJS9502_basic
The US military is disciplined and well trained. We are also ahead technologically. Defense spending is high as well.
Yeah I just thought about my post again and I guess debt really doesn't matter, even if it ends up in inflation. The US really will be 2 trillion dollars in debt after the Iraq war though, that wasn't just an exaggeration.Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerjointed
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerjointed
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
I'm only waiting to hear you support this claim. I'm very interested.Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerjointed
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
Actually, you fail to take into account that the U.S. would have the support of its allies. Not to mention superior training and equipment. Just look at the Vietnam War, the US lost around 58,000 while the NVA lost somewhere around a million dead. The only reason the US military lost was because it was fighting with one hand tied behind its back.[QUOTE="tycoonmike"]More men does equal better because it takes men to run the machines of war. It just so happens that because we were able to stare the Soviet Union down and because of the fact that if any country so much as blinks at us we invade them and because of our clearly superior nuclear capabilities that we don't need a huge army. If the Soviet Union were still around, we would need a huge army because there would actually be a threat to our survival.Oh for christ sake. I feel like I'm talking to my six year old.Let me explain some things to you:
bt_the_great_78
Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerjointed
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
The United States has enough firepower to wipe China off the map probably a hundred thousand times over. :|America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
jointed
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
[QUOTE="jointed"]Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerStevo_the_gamer
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
The United States has enough firepower to wipe China off the map probably a hundred thousand times over. :|you mean with nukes? Yea i've heard about them.....China has a whole arsenal of them too
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerjointed
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
The United States has enough firepower to wipe China off the map probably a hundred thousand times over. :|you mean with nukes? Yea i've heard about them.....China has a whole arsenal of them too
The point of this conversation was a straight out military slugfest. Because a nukefest between the US and Chinese would undoubtedly result in M.A.D.
[QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
LJS9502_basic
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
jointed
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
It did when Israel went head to head with its Arab neighbors.[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
jointed
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
Do you think you have all the intell on what the US military has/is developing? I'd still take the edge in technology over numbers any day. More advantageous by far.
[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="tycoonmike"]More men does equal better because it takes men to run the machines of war. It just so happens that because we were able to stare the Soviet Union down and because of the fact that if any country so much as blinks at us we invade them and because of our clearly superior nuclear capabilities that we don't need a huge army. If the Soviet Union were still around, we would need a huge army because there would actually be a threat to our survival.Oh for christ sake. I feel like I'm talking to my six year old.Let me explain some things to you:
tycoonmike
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
acegunslinger
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
It did when Israel went head to head with its Arab neighbors.yea but the gap wasnt as great as the one between China and America
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
LJS9502_basic
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
Do you think you have all the intell on what the US military has/is developing?
Don't even bother Basic. You're talking to someone who thinks the Abrams MBT is obsolete...
[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="jointed"]Yes, you are correct about one thing: it is about quantity versus quality, which is what gives us the unmitigated advantage.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="jointed"]are you being serious? They don't just have more men.......they have more tanks and more aircrafts....and yes, when there's such a large diffrence between the two sides, it is about the quantity not the quality.....You see what happends the the troops down in Iraq...they're fighting against rebels with home made bombs.....Imagine what the Chinese army would do......there is one major diffrence between china and the US......China doesnt care about human lives.....that's what makes their army strongerjointed
America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
The United States has enough firepower to wipe China off the map probably a hundred thousand times over. :|you mean with nukes? Yea i've heard about them.....China has a whole arsenal of them too
So, what's your point? You forget how the United States has multiple defenses against nuclear weapons, blowing it up while in flight. How about this, one nuclear weapon; We, the United States, blow it up a couple of hundred miles above the surface of the Earth over China. Every single electronic eqiupment within hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of miles, destroyed. China---Crippled.[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"][QUOTE="tycoonmike"]More men does equal better because it takes men to run the machines of war. It just so happens that because we were able to stare the Soviet Union down and because of the fact that if any country so much as blinks at us we invade them and because of our clearly superior nuclear capabilities that we don't need a huge army. If the Soviet Union were still around, we would need a huge army because there would actually be a threat to our survival.Oh for christ sake. I feel like I'm talking to my six year old.Let me explain some things to you:
tycoonmike
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
LJS9502_basic
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
Do you think you have all the intell on what the US military has/is developing? I'd still take the edge in technology over numbers any day. More advantageous by far.
You think you have intell on what the PLA is developing?
We can't really use such an arguement....
But I agree, I would also choose technology over numbers any day......I just say that in the case between USA and China technology isnt enough......atleast not the kind america has for its disposal
Don't even bother Basic. You're talking to someone who thinks the Abrams MBT is obsolete...
CaptHawkeye
Due to extreme bias against the US...
[QUOTE="acegunslinger"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
jointed
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
It did when Israel went head to head with its Arab neighbors.yea but the gap wasnt as great as the one between China and America
You just killed your own argument...You think you have intell on what the PLA is developing?
We can't really use such an arguement....
But I agree, I would also choose technology over numbers any day......I just say that in the case between USA and China technology isnt enough......atleast not the kind america has for its disposal
jointed
They are behind in tech....they would be working to catch up...while the US is moving on. Bit different.
alright can I explain something to you... do you not think that if the united states of america got into a all out war with the peoples republic of china that more americans and all allied nations would enlist? yes they would. The free nations of the world may not look that powerful, look I'll give you an example, back in WWII canada had one of the biggest armies and one of the biggest navies and airforces along with britian and the united states, after the war britian and canada and other allies cut military funding why? well in canada's case it was a new nation and had to build up other industries, britian had to rebuld after being bombed, but the US continued with its military and built 25000 nuclear warheads yeah 25000 nuclear weapons> any chinese amount of soldiers. The chinese have to look after 1 billion people!mark4091
[QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="acegunslinger"][QUOTE="jointed"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="jointed"]America's technology aint good enough to compensate for the numbers they lack if fighting china
acegunslinger
It's not like our military is depleted dude.....and numbers can't help you against superior technology and firepower....that just means more casualties.
Superior technology can help you in almost every occasion....but the technological gap between China and the US isnt great enough to compensate the number advantage
It did when Israel went head to head with its Arab neighbors.yea but the gap wasnt as great as the one between China and America
You just killed your own argument...how exactly? :?
The number gap wasnt as great as the one between China and the US.........that's not killing my arguement....
This is becoming another laughable anti-American thread.bt_the_great_78
how?
We're arguing who has the greatest army......not the political side of the countries....
[QUOTE="mark4091"]alright can I explain something to you... do you not think that if the united states of america got into a all out war with the peoples republic of china that more americans and all allied nations would enlist? yes they would. The free nations of the world may not look that powerful, look I'll give you an example, back in WWII canada had one of the biggest armies and one of the biggest navies and airforces along with britian and the united states, after the war britian and canada and other allies cut military funding why? well in canada's case it was a new nation and had to build up other industries, britian had to rebuld after being bombed, but the US continued with its military and built 25000 nuclear warheads yeah 25000 nuclear weapons> any chinese amount of soldiers. The chinese have to look after 1 billion people!tycoonmike
This is becoming another laughable anti-American thread.bt_the_great_78Then explain to me why America is so great? I can tell you why America is evil:
[QUOTE="bt_the_great_78"]This is becoming another laughable anti-American thread.jointed
how?
We're arguing who has the greatest army......not the political side of the countries....
An argument that consists of no substantiated facts but aims only on blind adherence to proving an inadequacy smacks of bigoted rhetoric.Please Log In to post.
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