Is your sexuality just like any other choice?

Do you think your sexuality is just like any other choice you make in life?

People say that you have no choice in your sexuality but I disagree with that. Mainly because choosing to be straight is like choosing anything else in life.

Its one of those things that can never be proved. I think people say they are born that way just to not feel as scared of hell.

So when did you choose to be straight TC?

because I certainly as hell don't remember. All I know was one day I looked at a girl and started randomly getting a funny feeling "down there." Don't remember the time nor day it happened either.

So when did you choose to be straight TC?

because I certainly as hell don't remember. All I know was one day I looked at a girl and started randomly getting a funny feeling "down there." Don't remember the time nor day it happened either.

DJ-Lafleur

Do you think your sexuality is just like any other choice you make in life?

People say that you have no choice in your sexuality but I disagree with that. Mainly because choosing to be straight is like choosing anything else in life.

Its one of those things that can never be proved. I think people say they are born that way just to not feel as scared of hell.

slipknot0129

Of course it can be proved, don't be moronic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research

The strange case of the homosexual necrophiliac duck pushed out the boundaries of knowledge in a rather improbable way when it was recorded by Dutch researcher Kees Moeliker.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Do you think your sexuality is just like any other choice you make in life?

People say that you have no choice in your sexuality but I disagree with that. Mainly because choosing to be straight is like choosing anything else in life.

Its one of those things that can never be proved. I think people say they are born that way just to not feel as scared of hell.

tenaka2

Of course it can be proved, don't be moronic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research

The strange case of the homosexual necrophiliac duck pushed out the boundaries of knowledge in a rather improbable way when it was recorded by Dutch researcher Kees Moeliker.

ughhh...

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[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

Do you think your sexuality is just like any other choice you make in life?

People say that you have no choice in your sexuality but I disagree with that. Mainly because choosing to be straight is like choosing anything else in life.

Its one of those things that can never be proved. I think people say they are born that way just to not feel as scared of hell.

slipknot0129

Of course it can be proved, don't be moronic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research

The strange case of the homosexual necrophiliac duck pushed out the boundaries of knowledge in a rather improbable way when it was recorded by Dutch researcher Kees Moeliker.

It would involve thinking about the article.

Do you think that the duck decided to be a homosexual necrophilac or do you think perhaps the duck was driven by its natural instincts?

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Of course it can be proved, don't be moronic.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2005/mar/08/highereducation.research

The strange case of the homosexual necrophiliac duck pushed out the boundaries of knowledge in a rather improbable way when it was recorded by Dutch researcher Kees Moeliker.

tenaka2

It would involve thinking about the article.

Do you think that the duck decided to be a homosexual necrophilac or do you think perhaps the duck was driven by its natural instincts?

Funny how all the people that say sexuality is a choice refuse to test it out by temporarily changing their sexuality.

One can choose their sexuality just like one can choose who they are sexually attracted to from a purely aesthetic standpoint. Which is to say: [spoiler] Temporarily find this fine specimen sexually arousing, and truly find it beautiful, and believe it with all your heart: Afterall, you can choose, right? [/spoiler]

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So when did you choose to be straight TC?

because I certainly as hell don't remember. All I know was one day I looked at a girl and started randomly getting a funny feeling "down there." Don't remember the time nor day it happened either.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I dont see how that proves anything.

slipknot0129

It would involve thinking about the article.

Do you think that the duck decided to be a homosexual necrophilac or do you think perhaps the duck was driven by its natural instincts?

So you are saying that ducks are self-aware to the point of makign such complex decisions? You do realise what a massive scientific discovery you have made, you will get a noble prize for certain.

Tell me, did you choose to be an idiot or do you think you were just born that way?

While you can pick to sleep with anyone it still does not change the fact that you are straight or gay there is no choice if you think there is TC you are a fool.

While you can pick who to sleep with anyone it still does not change the fact that you are straight or gay there is no choice if you think there is TC you are a fool.Duckyindiana

this, end of topic, new post

While you can pick to sleep with anyone it still does not change the fact that you are straight or gay there is no choice if you think there is TC you are a fool.

Duckyindiana

To prove my point look at twins. These twins made much of the same choices in life and they were seperated at birth.They didnt meet eachother till they were 39.

They both worked as part time deputy sherrifs, vacationed in Florida, drive chevrolets, had dogs named Toy, and married a woman named Betty. One twin named his son James Allan and the other named his son James Alan. They both liked math but not spelling. Had almost identical smoking and drinking habits.

Proves my point that being straight is no more of a choice than any other choice in life. That choices are linked the same way your sexuality is to your body. Thus if we do have choice in life then we have choice in our sexuality.

http://iris.nyit.edu/~shartman/mba0120/twins.htm

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20073583,00.html

Again TC you are a fool, i could not go out and decide that hey i want to be gay today pick up a man sleep with him and suddenly be ok about it. At the end of the day i would still be straight.Duckyindiana

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Again TC you are a fool, i could not go out and decide that hey i want to be gay today pick up a man sleep with him and suddenly be ok about it. At the end of the day i would still be straight.slipknot0129

I hope you are trolling, either way you are coming across as rather foolish.

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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Again TC you are a fool, i could not go out and decide that hey i want to be gay today pick up a man sleep with him and suddenly be ok about it. At the end of the day i would still be straight.tenaka2

I hope you are trolling, either way you are coming across as rather foolish.

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Again TC you are a fool, i could not go out and decide that hey i want to be gay today pick up a man sleep with him and suddenly be ok about it. At the end of the day i would still be straight.slipknot0129

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[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]Again TC you are a fool, i could not go out and decide that hey i want to be gay today pick up a man sleep with him and suddenly be ok about it. At the end of the day i would still be straight.Duckyindiana

You ever came out of the closet to your friends that have the other console? It can be risky. You might get some verbal abuse or even beat up. Ive seen a guy get beat up for buying a Ps3 when his friends had 360's.

I dont think its a choice. I mean first of all why would anyone actually choose to be homosexual? It brings with it many cons and almost no positives. Its like would you rather be rich or poor and of course you would choose rich and im willing to bet that if sexuality was a choice most would not choose to be homosexual with the current stigma surrounding it. Second, I know just from personal experience that you cant help how you feel or who your attracted to plain n simple. Either something arouses you or it doesn't and you cant choose what does arouse you. Some people have foot fetishes knowing full well thats its weird but its turns them on and thats the way it is for them. Its the same thing with homosexuals. They look at members of the opposite sex and dont feel any attraction. Its not like they choose not to be attracted but they just aren't. They could pretend so that they fit in but they would be living a pretty painful lie that could hurt a bunch of people.

I dont think its a choice. I mean first of all why would anyone actually choose to be homosexual? It brings with it many cons and almost no positives. Its like would you rather be rich or poor and of course you would choose rich and im willing to bet that if sexuality was a choice most would not choose to be homosexual with the current stigma surrounding it. Second, I know just from personal experience that you cant help how you feel or who your attracted to plain n simple. Either something arouses you or it doesn't and you cant choose what does arouse you. Some people have foot fetishes knowing full well thats its weird but its turns them on and thats the way it is for them. Its the same thing with homosexuals. They look at members of the opposite sex and dont feel any attraction. Its not like they choose not to be attracted but they just aren't. They could pretend so that they fit in but they would be living a pretty painful lie that could hurt a bunch of people.

Gen007

Why are people responding to this topic seriously?

I dont think its a choice. I mean first of all why would anyone actually choose to be homosexual? It brings with it many cons and almost no positives. Its like would you rather be rich or poor and of course you would choose rich and im willing to bet that if sexuality was a choice most would not choose to be homosexual with the current stigma surrounding it. Second, I know just from personal experience that you cant help how you feel or who your attracted to plain n simple. Either something arouses you or it doesn't and you cant choose what does arouse you. Some people have foot fetishes knowing full well thats its weird but its turns them on and thats the way it is for them. Its the same thing with homosexuals. They look at members of the opposite sex and dont feel any attraction. Its not like they choose not to be attracted but they just aren't. They could pretend so that they fit in but they would be living a pretty painful lie that could hurt a bunch of people.

Gen007

All your describing is how a person decides what any regular choice he could make. Your describing the nature side of the choices we make.

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I like Xbox 360 better than Ps3. I could not suddenly like ps3 then the be ok that I like ps3. When my mind has it that Xbox 360 is better. See your only proving my point.

slipknot0129

You ever came out of the closet to your friends that have the other console? It can be risky. You might get some verbal abuse or even beat up. Ive seen a guy get beat up for buying a Ps3 when his friends had 360's.

I've seen a person defecate on her own face. That was a choice.

Your analogy is terrible.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"] OMFG you are compairing liking a console to sexuality now i know you are just trolling. Really just leave before you make your self look even more stupid.MlauTheDaft

You ever came out of the closet to your friends that have the other console? It can be risky. You might get some verbal abuse or even beat up. Ive seen a guy get beat up for buying a Ps3 when his friends had 360's.

I've seen a person defecate on her own face. That was a choice.

Your analogy is terrible.

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]

While you can pick to sleep with anyone it still does not change the fact that you are straight or gay there is no choice if you think there is TC you are a fool.

slipknot0129

To prove my point look at twins. These twins made much of the same choices in life and they were seperated at birth.They didnt meet eachother till they were 39.

They both worked as part time deputy sherrifs, vacationed in Florida, drive chevrolets, had dogs named Toy, and married a woman named Betty. One twin named his son James Allan and the other named his son James Alan. They both liked math but not spelling. Had almost identical smoking and drinking habits.

Proves my point that being straight is no more of a choice than any other choice in life. That choices are linked the same way your sexuality is to your body. Thus if we do have choice in life then we have choice in our sexuality.

http://iris.nyit.edu/~shartman/mba0120/twins.htm

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20073583,00.html

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]I like Xbox 360 better than Ps3. I could not suddenly like ps3 then the be ok that I like ps3. When my mind has it that Xbox 360 is better. See your only proving my point.

slipknot0129

You ever came out of the closet to your friends that have the other console? It can be risky. You might get some verbal abuse or even beat up. Ive seen a guy get beat up for buying a Ps3 when his friends had 360's.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Duckyindiana"]

While you can pick to sleep with anyone it still does not change the fact that you are straight or gay there is no choice if you think there is TC you are a fool.

chaoscougar1

To prove my point look at twins. These twins made much of the same choices in life and they were seperated at birth.They didnt meet eachother till they were 39.

They both worked as part time deputy sherrifs, vacationed in Florida, drive chevrolets, had dogs named Toy, and married a woman named Betty. One twin named his son James Allan and the other named his son James Alan. They both liked math but not spelling. Had almost identical smoking and drinking habits.

Proves my point that being straight is no more of a choice than any other choice in life. That choices are linked the same way your sexuality is to your body. Thus if we do have choice in life then we have choice in our sexuality.

http://iris.nyit.edu/~shartman/mba0120/twins.htm

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20073583,00.html

It means that all choices lead back to genetics. That being straight is just a choice like anything else is a choice.

slipknot0129

I'll play

What about your heart beat, does your heart beat by choice and can you make it stop if you choose to?

And I don't mean using large knives or a gun lol.

[QUOTE="Gen007"]

I dont think its a choice. I mean first of all why would anyone actually choose to be homosexual? It brings with it many cons and almost no positives. Its like would you rather be rich or poor and of course you would choose rich and im willing to bet that if sexuality was a choice most would not choose to be homosexual with the current stigma surrounding it. Second, I know just from personal experience that you cant help how you feel or who your attracted to plain n simple. Either something arouses you or it doesn't and you cant choose what does arouse you. Some people have foot fetishes knowing full well thats its weird but its turns them on and thats the way it is for them. Its the same thing with homosexuals. They look at members of the opposite sex and dont feel any attraction. Its not like they choose not to be attracted but they just aren't. They could pretend so that they fit in but they would be living a pretty painful lie that could hurt a bunch of people.

slipknot0129

All your describing is how a person decides what any regular choice he could make. Your describing the nature side of the choices we make.

The point that im trying to make is that most sane humans if given the choice would not choose to be gay Ive spoken to gay people who wish they werent but just are and some who do enjoy it but riddle me this. If someone is gonna go to hell for being homosexual as you put it why would they choose to be gay Can you come up with a valid reason? Wouldnt you choose well not to go to hell?

[QUOTE="MlauTheDaft"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yep I am. Its no less of a prime example to illistrate how they are both choices.

You ever came out of the closet to your friends that have the other console? It can be risky. You might get some verbal abuse or even beat up. Ive seen a guy get beat up for buying a Ps3 when his friends had 360's.

slipknot0129

I've seen a person defecate on her own face. That was a choice.

Your analogy is terrible.

Wrong about what?

your analogy is awful and serves only to insinuate that you've seen some people behaving awfully.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Your only right if the choice is no different than any other.

To prove my point look at twins. These twins made much of the same choices in life and they were seperated at birth.They didnt meet eachother till they were 39.

They both worked as part time deputy sherrifs, vacationed in Florida, drive chevrolets, had dogs named Toy, and married a woman named Betty. One twin named his son James Allan and the other named his son James Alan. They both liked math but not spelling. Had almost identical smoking and drinking habits.

Proves my point that being straight is no more of a choice than any other choice in life. That choices are linked the same way your sexuality is to your body. Thus if we do have choice in life then we have choice in our sexuality.

http://iris.nyit.edu/~shartman/mba0120/twins.htm

http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,,20073583,00.html

slipknot0129

0/10 as usual.

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] Wouldn't that story lean more towards the fact that it is genetics? To quote "Scientist Thomas Bouchard who conducted these studies on twins points out that " the genetic effect pervades the entire structure of personality." How does this prove your point?chaoscougar1

Choosing whether you are straight or gay is like choosing whether you are black or white.

Sure its possible I guess, but why would you change what you want or who you are like that? I'm straight, but its not like I decided to be straight, I just like women.

If it were a choice then everybody would be bisexual.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]It means that all choices lead back to genetics. That being straight is just a choice like anything else is a choice.

slipknot0129

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]It means that all choices lead back to genetics. That being straight is just a choice like anything else is a choice.

slipknot0129

you're*

Also, your last sentence is wrong. Environmental influences affect you in many ways after you are born with only some genetic influence, and you don't make the choices as to how those affect you (For example something in your upbringing has probably caused you to be dumber than your genetics would suggest. Either that or you have sh*t genes) It's called heritability. It's a scale ranging from 0.0 to 1.0 (containing every point in between) but you obviously aren't proficient in biology so you wouldn't know that.

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[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"] So you chose your genetics? Is that what you are trying to say?Guybrush_3

you're*

Also, your last sentence is wrong. Environmental influences affect you in many ways after you are born and you don't make the choices as to how those affect you with only some genetic influence (For example something in your upbringing has probably caused you to be dumber than your genetics would suggest. Either that or you have sh*t genes) It's called heritability, but you obviously aren't proficient in biology so you wouldn't know that.

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Nope. Im saying that you cant pick and choose what aspect of life your born with or if its a choice. Your either born the way you are or you are making the choices.

slipknot0129

you're*

Also, your last sentence is wrong. Environmental influences affect you in many ways after you are born and you don't make the choices as to how those affect you with only some genetic influence (For example something in your upbringing has probably caused you to be dumber than your genetics would suggest. Either that or you have sh*t genes) It's called heritability, but you obviously aren't proficient in biology so you wouldn't know that.

You seem confused, are you confused?

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]

[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

you're*

Also, your last sentence is wrong. Environmental influences affect you in many ways after you are born and you don't make the choices as to how those affect you with only some genetic influence (For example something in your upbringing has probably caused you to be dumber than your genetics would suggest. Either that or you have sh*t genes) It's called heritability, but you obviously aren't proficient in biology so you wouldn't know that.

tenaka2

You seem confused, are you confused?

Though it points to everything being fate because of the twin study thing.

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[QUOTE="Guybrush_3"]

you're*

Also, your last sentence is wrong. Environmental influences affect you in many ways after you are born and you don't make the choices as to how those affect you with only some genetic influence (For example something in your upbringing has probably caused you to be dumber than your genetics would suggest. Either that or you have sh*t genes) It's called heritability, but you obviously aren't proficient in biology so you wouldn't know that.

tenaka2

You seem confused, are you confused?

He's definitely confused. It's not an "and/or" it's a full spectrum range across multiple indices

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]You may be right but my point still remains, that your sexual orientation is a choice just like any other or its by nature just like everything is.

slipknot0129

You seem confused, are you confused?

Though it points to everything being fate because of the twin study thing.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="slipknot0129"]You may be right but my point still remains, that your sexual orientation is a choice just like any other or its by nature just like everything is.

slipknot0129

You seem confused, are you confused?

Though it points to everything being fate because of the twin study thing.

so then your confused because the whole idea of fate is that you dont have a choice. You're just being extremely confusing and not making any sense and by contradicting yourself.

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[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

You seem confused, are you confused?

chaoscougar1

Though it points to everything being fate because of the twin study thing.

[QUOTE="chaoscougar1"][QUOTE="slipknot0129"]Yeah its basicly all fate or all choice. Either cant be proved wrong. So i'll be satisfied that nobody proved me wrong.

Though it points to everything being fate because of the twin study thing.

slipknot0129