Israeli Soldiers Beating Women

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwgw3HkyVos&feature=feedf

Thoughts? Can anyone tell me what the hell lead up to this? And where the **** are they taking the girl in 0:17? I'm really concerned about her.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwgw3HkyVos&feature=feedf

Thoughts? Can anyone tell me what the hell lead up to this. And where the **** are they taking the girl in 0:17?

Victorious_Fize

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

Blue-Sky

From what I can make, they are taking women. I pray to God it is not for rape.

A quick search on youtube and you can find many videos of Israeli soldiers, spitting, degrading and beating Palestinians.

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

Victorious_Fize

From what I can make, they are taking women. I pray to God it is not for rape.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

majoras_wrath

From what I can make, they are taking women. I pray to God it is not for rape.

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

From what I can make, they are taking women. I pray to God it is not for rape.

Victorious_Fize

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Oh please. Lets not start down ridiculous theories like that.majoras_wrath

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

Oh please. Lets not start down ridiculous theories like that.majoras_wrath

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Oh please. Lets not start down ridiculous theories like that.majoras_wrath

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

You're not seriously disregarding my post in the light of Israel following International law. I can't believe the ends one would reach to stand by his point...

You also heard about them building settlements outside of their borders, didn't you?

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"]Oh please. Lets not start down ridiculous theories like that.foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

Victorious_Fize

You're not seriously disregarding my post in the light of Israel following International law. I can't believe the ends one would reach to stand by his point...

You also heard about them building settlements outside of their borders, didn't you?

Wait but doesn't America support Israel?

America supports woman beating. Awesome.

Israel!! **** yeah.

honestly look at the persons videos that he has done in the past.... He is a guy who clearly despises Israel. This is a pathetic situation but I guarentee whatever had happened before the incident were edited out by him and were edited to show his hatred to Israel

That being said the situation is pathetic and these people should be ashamed

Oh please. Lets not start down ridiculous theories like that.majoras_wrath

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] And? For all we know, the camera men were being selective in what they filmed, and even if it was the case, Israel is after all a democratic country and monitored by the UN. If it happened, we'd hear about it. From the looks of it, they were restraining protesters who were causing problems, debate as you will their methods or the fairness of their decisions.majoras_wrath

You're not seriously disregarding my post in the light of Israel following International law. I can't believe the ends one would reach to stand by his point...

You also heard about them building settlements outside of their borders, didn't you?

1) if you acknowledge them violating international law, doesn't that kinda, you know... break your point about them being under international law?

2) because it's not "one giant raping machine".

3) you demanding "liveleak videos of every action the Israeli Military takes" pretty much shows your flexibility. I give up with you.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

lordreaven

Not to mention that the International Court of Justice ruled the "Security Fence" illegal

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

lordreaven

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

Victorious_Fize

From what I can make, they are taking women. I pray to God it is not for rape.

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

You're not seriously disregarding my post in the light of Israel following International law. I can't believe the ends one would reach to stand by his point...

You also heard about them building settlements outside of their borders, didn't you?

Victorious_Fize

1) if you acknowledge them violating international law, doesn't that kinda, you know... break your point about them being under international law?

2) because it's not "one giant raping machine".

3) you demanding "liveleak videos of every action the Israeli Military takes" pretty much shows your flexibility. I give up with you.

Why does everyone place so much stock in international opinions? Tends to be political more than anything else....and not every country agrees with each other either. LJS9502_basic

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

They aren't just beating women, they're beating men too. Does anyone understand what is actually happening in the video?

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

LJS9502_basic

From what I can make, they are taking women. I pray to God it is not for rape.

I honestly only did this topic for someone to tell me what the hell happened, there are a few people here that are quite clear on the situation. I know the video is edited, so I'm following the standard "untill further notice". I am still seeing women beaten, crying, and taken into trucks, while man shouting "why are you taking the women", and other bleeding.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why does everyone place so much stock in international opinions? Tends to be political more than anything else....and not every country agrees with each other either. Victorious_Fize

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

Not to mention we do not know what happened BEFORE this video taken place

Like I said before look at this persons PAST VIDEOS it is a clear sign of PROPAGANDA

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

From what I can make, they are taking women. I pray to God it is not for rape.

Victorious_Fize

I honestly only did this topic for someone to tell me what the hell happened. I know the video is edited, so I'm following the standard "untill further notice".

Just shows how pathetic the UN is that they will try to act only to get vetod.xxmatt125xx

I can't make an opinion without proper context. But I do have one question... why do all the soldiers look like midgets?

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why does everyone place so much stock in international opinions? Tends to be political more than anything else....and not every country agrees with each other either. Victorious_Fize

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] That would be assumption on your part. And one shouldn't assume......just leads to problems.LJS9502_basic

I honestly only did this topic for someone to tell me what the hell happened. I know the video is edited, so I'm following the standard "untill further notice".

Read my edit. I still see things that no man can edit.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why does everyone place so much stock in international opinions? Tends to be political more than anything else....and not every country agrees with each other either. fueled-system

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

Not to mention we do not know what happened BEFORE this video taken place

Like I said before look at this persons PAST VIDEOS it is a clear sign of PROPAGANDA

Yeah these things never happen.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

I honestly only did this topic for someone to tell me what the hell happened. I know the video is edited, so I'm following the standard "untill further notice".

Victorious_Fize

Read my edit. I still see things that no man can edit.

Don't try to speak logic with someone that's on a bandwagon, he already made up his mind.Robbazking

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="majoras_wrath"] Oh please. Lets not start down ridiculous theories like that.majoras_wrath

Can you understand Arabic? There's a man shouting "why are you taking the women" in 3:18.

[QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Why does everyone place so much stock in international opinions? Tends to be political more than anything else....and not every country agrees with each other either. LJS9502_basic

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

The UN rarely does anything nor neutrally investigate any small Palestine-Israel events. I don't see how my dislike to Israel bears any importance, there are many that don't, I just happen to be more vocal. I'm similar to the next guy that posts a negative Muslim/Arab thread.

"Which doesn't mean we know what happened. It could have been overreaction on the part of the soldiers...or it could have occurred because of something the women haddone. And we don't know where they went....so speculation does nothing but cause problems."

Again, I created the thread to understand and voice opinions. You stick to yours, I'll stick to mine. As I recall, you like to refrain from opinions on many sensitive and controversial material due to "lack of information".

I'm signing out till someone explain this to me.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

Victorious_Fize

The UN rarely does anything nor neutrally investigate any small Palestine-Israel events. I don't see how my dislike to Israel bears any importance, there are many that don't, I just happen to be more vocal. I'm similar to the next guy that posts a negative Muslim/Arab thread.

"Which doesn't mean we know what happened. It could have been overreaction on the part of the soldiers...or it could have occurred because of something the women haddone. And we don't know where they went....so speculation does nothing but cause problems."

Again, I created the thread to understand and voice opinions. You stick to yours, I'll stick to mine. As I recall, you like to refrain from opinions on many sensitive and controversial material due to "lack of information".

I'm signing out till someone explain this to me.

To be fair, the U.N. tries many times to make Israel behave. But when you have one country that vetoes everything against them it's kind of hard.

By the way, fun fact, here are the countries that always votes in favour of Israel: the United States of America, Australia, Palau, Marshal Islands and Micronesia.

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

Victorious_Fize

The UN rarely does anything nor neutrally investigate any small Palestine-Israel events. I don't see how my dislike to Israel bears any importance, there are many that don't, I just happen to be more vocal. I'm similar to the next guy that posts a negative Muslim/Arab thread.

"Which doesn't mean we know what happened. It could have been overreaction on the part of the soldiers...or it could have occurred because of something the women haddone. And we don't know where they went....so speculation does nothing but cause problems."

Again, I created the thread to understand and voice opinions. You stick to yours, I'll stick to mine. As I recall, you like to refrain from opinions on many sensitive and controversial material due to "lack of information".

edit: also I agree with you that the negative muslim threads should end to but you should not base your thread simply because those threads exist.

I'm signing out till someone explain this to me.

There is no information regarding what occurred before it. This is nothing more then all those police brutality videos that constantly pop up here

There are also clear signs of editing on the owner of this video that you continue to ignore on it

[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"][QUOTE="Victorious_Fize"]

Then nobody should say "Israel is okay because they are monitored by the UN".

Victorious_Fize

The UN rarely does anything nor neutrally investigate any small Palestine-Israel events. I don't see how my dislike to Israel bears any importance, there are many that don't, I just happen to be more vocal. I'm similar to the next guy that posts a negative Muslim/Arab thread.

"Which doesn't mean we know what happened. It could have been overreaction on the part of the soldiers...or it could have occurred because of something the women haddone. And we don't know where they went....so speculation does nothing but cause problems."

Again, I created the thread to understand and voice opinions. You stick to yours, I'll stick to mine. As I recall, you like to refrain from opinions on many sensitive and controversial material due to "lack of information".

I'm signing out till someone explain this to me.

I refrain from opinions when there is not conclusive evidence as to what happened. Speculation does nothing constructive but often times it's destructive.

No one here can explain it to you because no one here knows what happened. More than likely it seems to me that you want someone to agree with your assumptions. But that doesn't mean they are correct.

As for the UN....it does what it finds to be politically motivated. But yes...they have come down on Israel in the past.

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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"] As I recall he was stating that if the act occurred that you mentioned...without any support...happened the UN would know. So I don't see the analogy there. As I recall...you aren't fond of Israel are you?fueled-system

The UN rarely does anything nor neutrally investigate any small Palestine-Israel events. I don't see how my dislike to Israel bears any importance, there are many that don't, I just happen to be more vocal. I'm similar to the next guy that posts a negative Muslim/Arab thread.

"Which doesn't mean we know what happened. It could have been overreaction on the part of the soldiers...or it could have occurred because of something the women haddone. And we don't know where they went....so speculation does nothing but cause problems."

Again, I created the thread to understand and voice opinions. You stick to yours, I'll stick to mine. As I recall, you like to refrain from opinions on many sensitive and controversial material due to "lack of information".

I'm signing out till someone explain this to me.

There is no information regarding what occurred before it. This is nothing more then all those police brutality videos that constantly pop up here

There are also clear signs of editing on the owner of this video that you continue to ignore on it

I didn't ignore your posts, I simply payed more attention to the people that quotes me as I passively assumed everyone was replying to the thread. You on other hand seem to have missed some of mine: "I am still seeing women beaten, crying, and taken into trucks, while man shouting "why are you taking the women", and others bleeding.".

A child can see clear of editing, hell there's even an intro. I just make up from what I see. You might have also missed why I created this topic for? It's for better understanding? There's about two people here in OT that are actively aware of the situation.

this is not big deal, stuff like this happens 10million times per day

Just another reason in a mountain on why the US should defund Israel and stop protecting them in the UN.. If Israel doesn't like the consquences.. MAYBE THEY CAN ACTUALLY try to solve it! At this time there is absolutely NO motivation for them to solve the problem.. IN fact its the polar opposite.. They have more reason to illegal take over the West Bank and settle it.. Because the US will continue to coddle them with out question.. This is just another false sense of appeasement.. That if the US asks enough that they will do it, Israel promises they will change.. But they never do.. Pull out all assets from Israel.. If Israel wants to make a change, than do it.. And the US will support them.. And in the end the US should be trying help both sides of the civilians.. In the end supporting Israel is the worse idea ever for the US,a nation that is trying to improve froeign policy with the Middle East.