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#201 omho88
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] so you expect them to do nothing and run away? you would call them cowards no matter what they did. also , obviously youve never seen how a protest is dispersed , even in the westDarkman2007

This is the west if this was Europe it probably will be worse cause they don't have the eye of the world on them.

considering he was the guy who said Israel will cease to exist soon , I would say he has no respect for anyone .

I do have respect for real men, not for p****** with guns ...... and this was a hardly a protest as you are imgaining ..... and if it was, there were no signs, no voilence attepemted from the prortesters wutsoever.

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#202 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

my brain is full of thoughts, I am really not sure what to say except: Israeli soldiers, p*ssies with guns, my blood is boiling rightnow and it even annoys me the most when people act all cool and say let's hear the other side ..... you have just watched both, blind.

omho88

No dude much more brave people than u ever be. Sacrificing themselves to protect their country and people.

I dun blame them, they are the soldier of mother Israel, that's how they protect mother Israel, by attacking women, unarmed civiliens, lol, what a sacrafice !!!..... like I said P****** with guns.

You have no idea what's going on in this video so there is no basis for saying this. Andn how can you say that since they aren't using their guns? That's the thing you want them to say "can you please step away" a thousand times or you want them to use their guns? Cause that's the only options except what they're doing. This is how any police in the world would do, if someone disturbs the police repeatedely they won't be diplomatic.

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#203 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] This is the west if this was Europe it probably will be worse cause they don't have the eye of the world on them.

omho88

considering he was the guy who said Israel will cease to exist soon , I would say he has no respect for anyone .

I do have respect for real men, not for p****** with guns ...... and this was a hardly a protest as you are imgaining ..... and if it was, there were no signs, no voilence attepemted from the prortesters wutsoever.

They aren't using the guns thus your sentence is flawed.

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#204 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] This is the west if this was Europe it probably will be worse cause they don't have the eye of the world on them.

omho88

considering he was the guy who said Israel will cease to exist soon , I would say he has no respect for anyone .

I do have respect for real men, not for p****** with guns ...... and this was a hardly a protest as you are imgaining ..... and if it was, there were no signs, no voilence attepemted from the prortesters wutsoever.

of course there was, youre just blind to it because of the hate towards Israel you posses (so much so , you would rather have it cease to exist as you yourself said before) with "peace activists" like that, no wonder there is no peace, or the fact the far left has a terrible image in Israel.
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#205 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] No dude much more brave people than u ever be. Sacrificing themselves to protect their country and people.

charlesdarwin55

I dun blame them, they are the soldier of mother Israel, that's how they protect mother Israel, by attacking women, unarmed civiliens, lol, what a sacrafice !!!..... like I said P****** with guns.

You have no idea what's going on in this video so there is no basis for saying this. Andn how can you say that since they aren't using their guns? That's the thing you want them to say "can you please step away" a thousand times or you want them to use their guns? Cause that's the only options except what they're doing. This is how any police in the world would do, if someone disturbs the police repeatedely they won't be diplomatic.

they used their guns in the vid .... 1:15 .... and still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ... this is clrealy out of all the lines and violation of human rights.

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#206 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] considering he was the guy who said Israel will cease to exist soon , I would say he has no respect for anyone .Darkman2007

I do have respect for real men, not for p****** with guns ...... and this was a hardly a protest as you are imgaining ..... and if it was, there were no signs, no voilence attepemted from the prortesters wutsoever.

of course there was, youre just blind tao it because of the hate towards Israel you posses (so much so , you would rather have it cease to exist as you yourself said before) with "peace activists" like that, no wonder there is no peace, or the fact the far left has a terrible image in Israel.

they aren't peace activist they are terrorist. Let's say they are protesting against the barrier that's like protesting for 1000% more Israeli deaths so they are war activists.

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#207 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

I dun blame them, they are the soldier of mother Israel, that's how they protect mother Israel, by attacking women, unarmed civiliens, lol, what a sacrafice !!!..... like I said P****** with guns.

omho88

You have no idea what's going on in this video so there is no basis for saying this. Andn how can you say that since they aren't using their guns? That's the thing you want them to say "can you please step away" a thousand times or you want them to use their guns? Cause that's the only options except what they're doing. This is how any police in the world would do, if someone disturbs the police repeatedely they won't be diplomatic.

they used their guns in the vid .... 1:15 .... and still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ... this is clrealy out of all the lines and violation of human rights.

that gun he used was actually a tear gas grenade being fired, exactly for the purpose of disperssing them without shooting.
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#208 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

I dun blame them, they are the soldier of mother Israel, that's how they protect mother Israel, by attacking women, unarmed civiliens, lol, what a sacrafice !!!..... like I said P****** with guns.

omho88

You have no idea what's going on in this video so there is no basis for saying this. Andn how can you say that since they aren't using their guns? That's the thing you want them to say "can you please step away" a thousand times or you want them to use their guns? Cause that's the only options except what they're doing. This is how any police in the world would do, if someone disturbs the police repeatedely they won't be diplomatic.

they used their guns in the vid .... 1:15 .... and still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ... this is clrealy out of all the lines and violation of human rights.

That's tear gas. Yes it is if it's an illegal protest. Every country use tear gas. Now u have no idea what this is about so it's completely irrelevant until you know.

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#209 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] considering he was the guy who said Israel will cease to exist soon , I would say he has no respect for anyone .Darkman2007

I do have respect for real men, not for p****** with guns ...... and this was a hardly a protest as you are imgaining ..... and if it was, there were no signs, no voilence attepemted from the prortesters wutsoever.

of course there was, youre just blind to it because of the hate towards Israel you posses (so much so , you would rather have it cease to exist as you yourself said before) with "peace activists" like that, no wonder there is no peace, or the fact the far left has a terrible image in Israel.

you do remember what I said, great, coz I also said " this will happen with no single bullet shot", it's just a natural change, Israel won't be US favorite pet anymore, especially with the upraising of new arab world, especially in Egypt .... sooner or later the whole world will start talking about Israel and its horrible acts. Politics and the common intrests will do the rest.

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#210 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] You have no idea what's going on in this video so there is no basis for saying this. Andn how can you say that since they aren't using their guns? That's the thing you want them to say "can you please step away" a thousand times or you want them to use their guns? Cause that's the only options except what they're doing. This is how any police in the world would do, if someone disturbs the police repeatedely they won't be diplomatic.

Darkman2007

they used their guns in the vid .... 1:15 .... and still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ... this is clrealy out of all the lines and violation of human rights.

that gun he used was actually a tear gas grenade being fired, exactly for the purpose of disperssing them without shooting.

Lol he tries anything to make Israel looks bad even if it means contradicting himself.

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#211 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

I do have respect for real men, not for p****** with guns ...... and this was a hardly a protest as you are imgaining ..... and if it was, there were no signs, no voilence attepemted from the prortesters wutsoever.

omho88

of course there was, youre just blind to it because of the hate towards Israel you posses (so much so , you would rather have it cease to exist as you yourself said before) with "peace activists" like that, no wonder there is no peace, or the fact the far left has a terrible image in Israel.

you do remember what I said, great, coz I also said " this will happen with no single bullet shot", it's just a natural change, Israel won't be US favorite pet anymore, especially with the upraising of new arab world, especially in Egypt .... sooner or later the whole world will start talking about Israel and its horrible acts. Politics and the common intrests will do the rest.

So how will this happen withouth a "single bullet shot"? By nukes perhaps? Biological weapons? Or just starving them to death? And lol for saying it's horrible acts, politics and common interest. If this happens it's because of anti-semitism plain and simple.

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#212 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

I do have respect for real men, not for p****** with guns ...... and this was a hardly a protest as you are imgaining ..... and if it was, there were no signs, no voilence attepemted from the prortesters wutsoever.

omho88

of course there was, youre just blind to it because of the hate towards Israel you posses (so much so , you would rather have it cease to exist as you yourself said before) with "peace activists" like that, no wonder there is no peace, or the fact the far left has a terrible image in Israel.

you do remember what I said, great, coz I also said " this will happen with no single bullet shot", it's just a natural change, Israel won't be US favorite pet anymore, especially with the upraising of new arab world, especially in Egypt .... sooner or later the whole world will start talking about Israel and its horrible acts. Politics and the common intrests will do the rest.

you do understand what you said was complete rubbish right? Israel will stay wheter you like it or not, and we will do our best to stay alive, despite people like you already trying to dig our graves for us. and youre being dilusional , if Israel suddenly ceases to exist, it won't be without a bullet, it will be nuclear war, so you better dig alot of graves.
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] You have no idea what's going on in this video so there is no basis for saying this. Andn how can you say that since they aren't using their guns? That's the thing you want them to say "can you please step away" a thousand times or you want them to use their guns? Cause that's the only options except what they're doing. This is how any police in the world would do, if someone disturbs the police repeatedely they won't be diplomatic.

charlesdarwin55

they used their guns in the vid .... 1:15 .... and still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ... this is clrealy out of all the lines and violation of human rights.

That's tear gas. Yes it is if it's an illegal protest. Every country use tear gas. Now u have no idea what this is about so it's completely irrelevant until you know.

0:17 >>> pulling that poor girl like an animal ....

0:22 >>> pulling that guys hair .....

0:33>>>> kicking her ......

soldiers shooting tear gas or God knows who ......

2:27 >>>>soldiers beating some guy who is just watching on his legs ...... 2:45>>> the soldier pulling an elder from her scarf like an animal .....

people >>>carrying injuried ppl .....

5:11>>> again hitting on the legs

If you really ok with ur police (bullies) dispersing peacful protesters this way .... then I have no more to say .... expect "those with honor apparntly died"

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#214 TehFuneral
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I really do understand now the gun politics in the US.

Seriously, if someone is abusing you that way you take a gun and use it on them. The though of having a family member taken away by such men and not having the ability to do anything is really a scary thought.

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#215 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

they used their guns in the vid .... 1:15 .... and still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ... this is clrealy out of all the lines and violation of human rights.

omho88

That's tear gas. Yes it is if it's an illegal protest. Every country use tear gas. Now u have no idea what this is about so it's completely irrelevant until you know.

0:17 >>> pulling that poor girl like an animal ....

0:22 >>> pulling that guys hair .....

0:33>>>> kicking her ......

soldiers shooting tear gas or God knows who ......

2:27 >>>>soldiers beating some guy who is just watching on his legs ...... 2:45>>> the soldier pulling an elder from her scarf like an animal .....

people >>>carrying injuried ppl .....

5:11>>> again hitting on the legs

If you really ok with ur police (bullies) dispersing peacful protesters this way .... then I have no more to say .... expect "those with honor apparntly died"

most of those are standard protest dispertion techniques, they don't do all that different in any other protest. heck in Israel it can get worse, though normally. protests in Israel are quite civil so things never get out of hand. and for all you know it wasn't peaceful , most of those protests involve the protesters trying to assault the soldiers and throwing things, youve only seen part of the protest.
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] of course there was, youre just blind to it because of the hate towards Israel you posses (so much so , you would rather have it cease to exist as you yourself said before) with "peace activists" like that, no wonder there is no peace, or the fact the far left has a terrible image in Israel.Darkman2007

you do remember what I said, great, coz I also said " this will happen with no single bullet shot", it's just a natural change, Israel won't be US favorite pet anymore, especially with the upraising of new arab world, especially in Egypt .... sooner or later the whole world will start talking about Israel and its horrible acts. Politics and the common intrests will do the rest.

you do understand what you said was complete rubbish right? Israel will stay wheter you like it or not, and we will do our best to stay alive, despite people like you already trying to dig our graves for us. and youre being dilusional , if Israel suddenly ceases to exist, it won't be without a bullet, it will be nuclear war, so you better dig alot of graves.

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

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#217 Darkman2007
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I really do understand now the gun politics in the US.

Seriously, if someone is abusing you that way you take a gun and use it on them. The though of having a family member taken away by such men and not having the ability to do anything is really a scary thought.

TehFuneral
at no point were they actually shooting anybody, apart from tear gas which is used in any protest, even in the west. and most of those arrested don't stay for very long. and if you think thats bad, it can get worse in Israel, how about using water canon, tear gas , and trampling with horses to disperse settlers. if people protest peacefully, nothing happens, if they attack , they get attacked back , and honestly they could could have done alot worse then just hitting some people with a baton.
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#218 Palantas
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...still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ...

omho88

So how would you do it?

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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

they used their guns in the vid .... 1:15 .... and still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ... this is clrealy out of all the lines and violation of human rights.

omho88

That's tear gas. Yes it is if it's an illegal protest. Every country use tear gas. Now u have no idea what this is about so it's completely irrelevant until you know.

0:17 >>> pulling that poor girl like an animal ....

0:22 >>> pulling that guys hair .....

0:33>>>> kicking her ......

soldiers shooting tear gas or God knows who ......

2:27 >>>>soldiers beating some guy who is just watching on his legs ...... 2:45>>> the soldier pulling an elder from her scarf like an animal .....

people >>>carrying injuried ppl .....

5:11>>> again hitting on the legs

If you really ok with ur police (bullies) dispersing peacful protesters this way .... then I have no more to say .... expect "those with honor apparntly died"

Again you have no idea what this is about calling them "peaceful protesters" shows how it's useless talking with you since you bring in words that you have no idea whether they belong in this context or not. You have no idea what happened before this. Maybe they didn't even protest at all just minding their own bussines or they where extremely violent u have no idea. My police is Swedish police so you just called the Swedish police bullies now I guess Sweden should ceace to exist "withouth a bullet shot" But let's take this for example if a policeman is doing his job and then someone comes up and disturbs that police maybe just calling him dirty pig or whatever and the police then says back off and the man keeps disturbing his job then absolutely he should be able to do all the things you "mentioned" (& exxagerated very much) and much more so that they easily return to their jobs. And rest assure all policeforces in the world would resort to violence in situations like this.

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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] That's tear gas. Yes it is if it's an illegal protest. Every country use tear gas. Now u have no idea what this is about so it's completely irrelevant until you know.

Darkman2007

0:17 >>> pulling that poor girl like an animal ....

0:22 >>> pulling that guys hair .....

0:33>>>> kicking her ......

soldiers shooting tear gas or God knows who ......

2:27 >>>>soldiers beating some guy who is just watching on his legs ...... 2:45>>> the soldier pulling an elder from her scarf like an animal .....

people >>>carrying injuried ppl .....

5:11>>> again hitting on the legs

If you really ok with ur police (bullies) dispersing peacful protesters this way .... then I have no more to say .... expect "those with honor apparntly died"

most of those are standard protest dispertion techniques, they don't do all that different in any other protest. heck in Israel it can get worse, though normally. protests in Israel are quite civil so things never get out of hand. and for all you know it wasn't peaceful , most of those protests involve the protesters trying to assault the soldiers and throwing things, youve only seen part of the protest.

apparantly those who were being beaten were peacful and unarmed wutsoever ..... and as far as I know, I saw similair protests dispersing acts like these before ...... in Egypt revolution, you will be surpried how similar the two acts are, and now they are being done in Syria and in Yemen .... those acts demand some punishments from human rights organizations, but not with Israel, US current favorite pet.

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#221 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

you do remember what I said, great, coz I also said " this will happen with no single bullet shot", it's just a natural change, Israel won't be US favorite pet anymore, especially with the upraising of new arab world, especially in Egypt .... sooner or later the whole world will start talking about Israel and its horrible acts. Politics and the common intrests will do the rest.

omho88

you do understand what you said was complete rubbish right? Israel will stay wheter you like it or not, and we will do our best to stay alive, despite people like you already trying to dig our graves for us. and youre being dilusional , if Israel suddenly ceases to exist, it won't be without a bullet, it will be nuclear war, so you better dig alot of graves.

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

and yet youre the one forecasting my death? very funny. for one, I doubt every single Arab in the Middle East has the destruction of Israel on his mind 100% of the time. 2nd , if they do , is it my fault? the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years, it will take more then our cousins not liking us to ruin us.
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#222 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

...still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ...

Palantas

So how would you do it?

did you pay any attention to "peacful protesters" ? .... this is a way of expression .... 2mrw, Egypt will have a day of protest in Ta7reer Squar ... and trust me, you won't see such pathetic acts.

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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

you do remember what I said, great, coz I also said " this will happen with no single bullet shot", it's just a natural change, Israel won't be US favorite pet anymore, especially with the upraising of new arab world, especially in Egypt .... sooner or later the whole world will start talking about Israel and its horrible acts. Politics and the common intrests will do the rest.

omho88

you do understand what you said was complete rubbish right? Israel will stay wheter you like it or not, and we will do our best to stay alive, despite people like you already trying to dig our graves for us. and youre being dilusional , if Israel suddenly ceases to exist, it won't be without a bullet, it will be nuclear war, so you better dig alot of graves.

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a ´speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

So please tell us how then Israel would cease to exist. Harder? The arab uprising is all but good for Israel. Let's see here. Qadhafi=Extreme enemy of Israel, Libyan rebels using an Israeli song to represent their uprising. Assad=Extremely extreme enemy of Israel. So if anything it'll be easier with many countries get more israel friendly leaders. Only maybe mubarak who wasn't extreme enemy.

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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] you do understand what you said was complete rubbish right? Israel will stay wheter you like it or not, and we will do our best to stay alive, despite people like you already trying to dig our graves for us. and youre being dilusional , if Israel suddenly ceases to exist, it won't be without a bullet, it will be nuclear war, so you better dig alot of graves.Darkman2007

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

and yet youre the one forecasting my death? very funny. for one, I doubt every single Arab in the Middle East has the destruction of Israel on his mind 100% of the time. 2nd , if they do , is it my fault? the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years, it will take more then our cousins not liking us to ruin us.

not in the entire middle east. but there was a survey that found 100% (yeah 100% lol) of jordan possesses negative views of jews

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#225 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

...still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ...

omho88

So how would you do it?

did you pay any attention to "peacful protesters" ? .... this is a way of expression .... 2mrw, Egypt will have a day of protest in Ta7reer Squar ... and trust me, you won't see such pathetic acts.

Any proof this is a peaceful protest?? Maybe because it's a legal protest?? Legal protests in Israel is no problem either. But violent illegal protests is.

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#226 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

0:17 >>> pulling that poor girl like an animal ....

0:22 >>> pulling that guys hair .....

0:33>>>> kicking her ......

soldiers shooting tear gas or God knows who ......

2:27 >>>>soldiers beating some guy who is just watching on his legs ...... 2:45>>> the soldier pulling an elder from her scarf like an animal .....

people >>>carrying injuried ppl .....

5:11>>> again hitting on the legs

If you really ok with ur police (bullies) dispersing peacful protesters this way .... then I have no more to say .... expect "those with honor apparntly died"

omho88

most of those are standard protest dispertion techniques, they don't do all that different in any other protest. heck in Israel it can get worse, though normally. protests in Israel are quite civil so things never get out of hand. and for all you know it wasn't peaceful , most of those protests involve the protesters trying to assault the soldiers and throwing things, youve only seen part of the protest.

apparantly those who were being beaten were peacful and unarmed wutsoever ..... and as far as I know, I saw similair protests dispersing acts like these before ...... in Egypt revolution, you will be surpried how similar the two acts are, and now they are being done in Syria and in Yemen .... those acts demand some punishments from human rights organizations, but not with Israel, US current favorite pet.

lol, I think there is a bit of a difference between Israeli soldiers hitting people with batons, and Syrian soldiers shooting live ammo at protesters. and contrary to what you think , Israel gets too much attention from human rights groups.
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#227 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] you do understand what you said was complete rubbish right? Israel will stay wheter you like it or not, and we will do our best to stay alive, despite people like you already trying to dig our graves for us. and youre being dilusional , if Israel suddenly ceases to exist, it won't be without a bullet, it will be nuclear war, so you better dig alot of graves.Darkman2007

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

and yet youre the one forecasting my death? very funny. for one, I doubt every single Arab in the Middle East has the destruction of Israel on his mind 100% of the time. 2nd , if they do , is it my fault? the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years, it will take more then our cousins not liking us to ruin us.

Why did you mention "the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years" ? I never spoke anything bad regarding Jews ?!!!

And I dun want ur death, just leave us alone.

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#228 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

Firebird-5

and yet youre the one forecasting my death? very funny. for one, I doubt every single Arab in the Middle East has the destruction of Israel on his mind 100% of the time. 2nd , if they do , is it my fault? the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years, it will take more then our cousins not liking us to ruin us.

not in the entire middle east. but there was a survey that found 100% (yeah 100% lol) of jordan possesses negative views of jews

The funny thing is I'm pretty sure many of the non-palestinian jordanians possesses negative views of palestinians as well.

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#229 TehFuneral
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I really do understand now the gun politics in the US.

Seriously, if someone is abusing you that way you take a gun and use it on them. The though of having a family member taken away by such men and not having the ability to do anything is really a scary thought.

Darkman2007

at no point were they actually shooting anybody, apart from tear gas which is used in any protest, even in the west. and most of those arrested don't stay for very long. and if you think thats bad, it can get worse in Israel, how about using water canon, tear gas , and trampling with horses to disperse settlers. if people protest peacefully, nothing happens, if they attack , they get attacked back , and honestly they could could have done alot worse then just hitting some people with a baton.

When an individual is protesting society's refusal to acknowledge his dignity as a human being, his very act of protest confers dignity on him.

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#230 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

omho88

and yet youre the one forecasting my death? very funny. for one, I doubt every single Arab in the Middle East has the destruction of Israel on his mind 100% of the time. 2nd , if they do , is it my fault? the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years, it will take more then our cousins not liking us to ruin us.

Why did you mention "the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years" ? I never spoke anything bad regarding Jews ?!!!

And I dun want ur death, just leave us alone.

Yes you deny jews self-determination but not for other people.

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#231 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

I really do understand now the gun politics in the US.

Seriously, if someone is abusing you that way you take a gun and use it on them. The though of having a family member taken away by such men and not having the ability to do anything is really a scary thought.

TehFuneral

at no point were they actually shooting anybody, apart from tear gas which is used in any protest, even in the west. and most of those arrested don't stay for very long. and if you think thats bad, it can get worse in Israel, how about using water canon, tear gas , and trampling with horses to disperse settlers. if people protest peacefully, nothing happens, if they attack , they get attacked back , and honestly they could could have done alot worse then just hitting some people with a baton.

When an individual is protesting society's refusal to acknowledge his dignity as a human being, his very act of protest confers dignity on him.

wth is that suppose to mean?

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#232 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

Firebird-5

and yet youre the one forecasting my death? very funny. for one, I doubt every single Arab in the Middle East has the destruction of Israel on his mind 100% of the time. 2nd , if they do , is it my fault? the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years, it will take more then our cousins not liking us to ruin us.

Why did you mention "the Jewish people have survived for 3000 years" ? I never spoke anything bad regarding Jews ?!!!

And I dun want ur death, just leave us alone.

ha ha so first you say youre forecasting my death and the destruction of Israel, then you say you don't want my death and just want to be left alone? where are you from? and I mention the Jewish people because Israel is a majority Jewish state, a state you say will disappear. like I said, it will take more then our cousins not to like us, in order for the Jews , or even just Israel to disappear.
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[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

...still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ...

omho88

So how would you do it?

did you pay any attention to "peacful protesters" ? .... this is a way of expression .... 2mrw, Egypt will have a day of protest in Ta7reer Squar ... and trust me, you won't see such pathetic acts.

How did you come to that conclusion?
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The real crime is the people who attack OUR american soldiers for this.

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#235 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Darkman2007"] you do understand what you said was complete rubbish right? Israel will stay wheter you like it or not, and we will do our best to stay alive, despite people like you already trying to dig our graves for us. and youre being dilusional , if Israel suddenly ceases to exist, it won't be without a bullet, it will be nuclear war, so you better dig alot of graves.charlesdarwin55

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a ´speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

So please tell us how then Israel would cease to exist. Harder? The arab uprising is all but good for Israel. Let's see here. Qadhafi=Extreme enemy of Israel, Libyan rebels using an Israeli song to represent their uprising. Assad=Extremely extreme enemy of Israel. So if anything it'll be easier with many countries get more israel friendly leaders. Only maybe mubarak who wasn't extreme enemy.

they were hardly enemies to Israel, they are just as P****** as the soldiers in the vid, puppets for the show . Gazafy is an idiot, Bashar is a P*****,And Mubarak was Israel dearest friend.

The new Egypt for example was the host for palastines parties union, this isn't good for Israel, is it ?

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#236 Palantas
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[QUOTE="I"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

...still, this is no way to disperese a protest consistes of handful of peaceful protesters ...

omho88

So how would you do it?

did you pay any attention to "peacful protesters" ? .... this is a way of expression .... 2mrw, Egypt will have a day of protest in Ta7reer Squar ... and trust me, you won't see such pathetic acts.

A protest can be peaceful and still be illegal. Please tell me that you misunderstood my question, and were aware of this. I'll restate it in full: How would you (as say, the captain on the police) deal with an illegal protest? You said "this is no way" to deal with them, so presumably you know a better way. What is it?

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#237 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="TehFuneral"]

I really do understand now the gun politics in the US.

Seriously, if someone is abusing you that way you take a gun and use it on them. The though of having a family member taken away by such men and not having the ability to do anything is really a scary thought.

TehFuneral

at no point were they actually shooting anybody, apart from tear gas which is used in any protest, even in the west. and most of those arrested don't stay for very long. and if you think thats bad, it can get worse in Israel, how about using water canon, tear gas , and trampling with horses to disperse settlers. if people protest peacefully, nothing happens, if they attack , they get attacked back , and honestly they could could have done alot worse then just hitting some people with a baton.

When an individual is protesting society's refusal to acknowledge his dignity as a human being, his very act of protest confers dignity on him.

who said they don't have dignity? and yes, Israel indeed considers Palestinians human beings, so do most people in fact, Israel has issues with them , but they are human beings. at any rate, Ive said it before, if someone who has been to that protest feels there is an extreme injustice done by any of the soldiers, he can report it, and there have been soldiers punished (sometimes sent to a military prison) for extreme incidents.
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#238 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a ´speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

omho88

So please tell us how then Israel would cease to exist. Harder? The arab uprising is all but good for Israel. Let's see here. Qadhafi=Extreme enemy of Israel, Libyan rebels using an Israeli song to represent their uprising. Assad=Extremely extreme enemy of Israel. So if anything it'll be easier with many countries get more israel friendly leaders. Only maybe mubarak who wasn't extreme enemy.

they were hardly enemies to Israel, they are just as P****** as the soldiers in the vid, puppets for the show . Gazafy is an idiot, Bashar is a P*****,And Mubarak was Israel dearest friend.

The new Egypt for example was the host for palastines parties union, this isn't good for Israel, is it ?

P***. Ghadhafi is no p*** he is just an idiot. Unlike mubarak he didn't leave like a little snake even though he had all of nato against him and certain loss. He was willing to die for his libya. A brutal dictator but he has b****. In any case he was 100% against Israel's existence. Assad has threatened war with Israel many time. Mubarak? Israel? friends. No way. Egypt was never friend of Israel so the party union makes no difference.

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#239 Buttons1990
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I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

Blue-Sky

Do you speak Arabic? They were telling people to get back, over and over, and over, and over, and over... The only people they hit/shot (with bean bag ammo) were people who laid hands on them when they tried to arrest people.

And lol at the comments... "And here is another example of the Zionist Occupation Terrorists and their ethnic clensing!"

Yes, a couple of 20 year old kids conscripted (as in forced) to join the military are zionist hell bent on killing all Muslims. Right.

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#240 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="Palantas"]

So how would you do it?

LJS9502_basic

did you pay any attention to "peacful protesters" ? .... this is a way of expression .... 2mrw, Egypt will have a day of protest in Ta7reer Squar ... and trust me, you won't see such pathetic acts.

How did you come to that conclusion?

There were no signs opposing Israel, apparntly the protesters are young people who looked pretty normal and did nothing offensive wutsoever in the vid while they were beaten ..... and there were like 20-50 max of them, hardly a threat .... and in the end, there were alot of injuired protesters ...... no a math,

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#241 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

if there will be a war, then we won't be the one who will start it ..... but apparntly you are ready, and I am not surprised at all .... the rusbbish I am saying is just a ´speculation, but one thing is for sure, things will get extremely harder for Israel in the future, The palastines are already gathering thier lines, Egypt is opening Rafah boarder, the uprsings are everywhere . Only time will tell, so dun be so sure.

omho88

So please tell us how then Israel would cease to exist. Harder? The arab uprising is all but good for Israel. Let's see here. Qadhafi=Extreme enemy of Israel, Libyan rebels using an Israeli song to represent their uprising. Assad=Extremely extreme enemy of Israel. So if anything it'll be easier with many countries get more israel friendly leaders. Only maybe mubarak who wasn't extreme enemy.

they were hardly enemies to Israel, they are just as P****** as the soldiers in the vid, puppets for the show . Gazafy is an idiot, Bashar is a P*****,And Mubarak was Israel dearest friend.

The new Egypt for example was the host for palastines parties union, this isn't good for Israel, is it ?

actually its a potential opportunity if Abu Mazen can get Hamas to agree to a real peace, which right now they are giving very mixed messages. that way, there will be no excuses.
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#242 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

Buttons1990

Do you speak Arabic? They were telling people to get back, over and over, and over, and over, and over... The only people they hit/shot (with bean bag ammo) were people who laid hands on them when they tried to arrest people.

And lol at the comments... "And here is another example of the Zionist Occupation Terrorists and their ethnic clensing!"

Yes, a couple of 20 year old kids conscripted (as in forced) to join the military are zionist hell bent on killing all Muslims. Right.

No soldier or police in the world would tolerate it when they tell them to go back time & time again.

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#243 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

Buttons1990

Do you speak Arabic? They were telling people to get back, over and over, and over, and over, and over... The only people they hit/shot (with bean bag ammo) were people who laid hands on them when they tried to arrest people.

And lol at the comments... "And here is another example of the Zionist Occupation Terrorists and their ethnic clensing!"

Yes, a couple of 20 year old kids conscripted (as in forced) to join the military are zionist hell bent on killing all Muslims. Right.

actually alot of the palestinians were speaking some hebrew (its common in the west bank and Gaza to know some hebrew, particularly for people in their 30s and above)
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#244 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"] So please tell us how then Israel would cease to exist. Harder? The arab uprising is all but good for Israel. Let's see here. Qadhafi=Extreme enemy of Israel, Libyan rebels using an Israeli song to represent their uprising. Assad=Extremely extreme enemy of Israel. So if anything it'll be easier with many countries get more israel friendly leaders. Only maybe mubarak who wasn't extreme enemy.

Darkman2007

they were hardly enemies to Israel, they are just as P****** as the soldiers in the vid, puppets for the show . Gazafy is an idiot, Bashar is a P*****,And Mubarak was Israel dearest friend.

The new Egypt for example was the host for palastines parties union, this isn't good for Israel, is it ?

actually its a potential opportunity if Abu Mazen can get Hamas to agree to a real peace, which right now they are giving very mixed messages. that way, there will be no excuses.

How can this happen if Abu Mazen himself doesn't want peace?

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#245 omho88
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[QUOTE="omho88"]

[QUOTE="I"]

So how would you do it?

Palantas

did you pay any attention to "peacful protesters" ? .... this is a way of expression .... 2mrw, Egypt will have a day of protest in Ta7reer Squar ... and trust me, you won't see such pathetic acts.

A protest can be peaceful and still be illegal. Please tell me that you misunderstood my question, and were aware of this. I'll restate it in full: How would you (as say, the captain on the police) deal with an illegal protest? You said "this is no way" to deal with them, so presumably you know a better way. What is it?

I would leave them alone, since I am the one with power, being illegal won't cause series damage, and btw we are assuming it's illegal, it could be legal after all but in both cases, these acts aren't excusable..... if the protest is illegal, does this give you the right to harm them this way? if the law permits such acts, then Oh, Godness.

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#246 Buttons1990
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[QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

[QUOTE="Blue-Sky"]

I can't even tell whats going on

It looked like they are trying to enforce crowd control, but they're the only ones using violence.

Darkman2007

Do you speak Arabic? They were telling people to get back, over and over, and over, and over, and over... The only people they hit/shot (with bean bag ammo) were people who laid hands on them when they tried to arrest people.

And lol at the comments... "And here is another example of the Zionist Occupation Terrorists and their ethnic clensing!"

Yes, a couple of 20 year old kids conscripted (as in forced) to join the military are zionist hell bent on killing all Muslims. Right.

actually alot of the palestinians were speaking some hebrew (its common in the west bank and Gaza to know some hebrew, particularly for people in their 30s and above)

I am not talking about what the Palestinians were saying... I am talking about what the Israelis were ordering.

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#247 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="omho88"]

they were hardly enemies to Israel, they are just as P****** as the soldiers in the vid, puppets for the show . Gazafy is an idiot, Bashar is a P*****,And Mubarak was Israel dearest friend.

The new Egypt for example was the host for palastines parties union, this isn't good for Israel, is it ?

charlesdarwin55

actually its a potential opportunity if Abu Mazen can get Hamas to agree to a real peace, which right now they are giving very mixed messages. that way, there will be no excuses.

How can this happen if Abu Mazen himself doesn't want peace?

I believe Abu Mazen wants peace, but he is sticking to several demands which Israel is unhappy about. conversly, he has conceded some things which Hamas are not happy about. like Israel's former PM , Levi Eshkol said "everybody loves their own concessions"
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#248 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Darkman2007"][QUOTE="Buttons1990"]

Do you speak Arabic? They were telling people to get back, over and over, and over, and over, and over... The only people they hit/shot (with bean bag ammo) were people who laid hands on them when they tried to arrest people.

And lol at the comments... "And here is another example of the Zionist Occupation Terrorists and their ethnic clensing!"

Yes, a couple of 20 year old kids conscripted (as in forced) to join the military are zionist hell bent on killing all Muslims. Right.

Buttons1990

actually alot of the palestinians were speaking some hebrew (its common in the west bank and Gaza to know some hebrew, particularly for people in their 30s and above)

I am not talking about what the Palestinians were saying... I am talking about what the Israelis were ordering.

oh ok , I see, I wasnt listening so much as looking at the video.
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#249 omho88
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Happy talking to you guys, time will tell what will happen, but as long as Israel act the same way, we will go to nowhere, arab world is changing, Israel will change, it will regress, I dun know if it will vanish or not, but things will get tough on it and easier on palastines, and hopefully better for all the parties ... C ya.

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#250 Darkman2007
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[QUOTE="Palantas"]

[QUOTE="omho88"]

did you pay any attention to "peacful protesters" ? .... this is a way of expression .... 2mrw, Egypt will have a day of protest in Ta7reer Squar ... and trust me, you won't see such pathetic acts.

omho88

A protest can be peaceful and still be illegal. Please tell me that you misunderstood my question, and were aware of this. I'll restate it in full: How would you (as say, the captain on the police) deal with an illegal protest? You said "this is no way" to deal with them, so presumably you know a better way. What is it?

I would leave them alone, since I am the one with power, being illegal won't cause series damage, and btw we are assuming it's illegal, it could be legal after all but in both cases, these acts aren't excusable..... if the protest is illegal, does this give you the right to harm them this way? if the law permits such acts, then Oh, Godness.

thing is, if they would have tried to walk away, the protesters would have just followed them and probably continued to assault them , and people like you would have called them cowards. and like I said, protests in Israel don't get treated much better if they turn violent, prime example would be the Gaza evacuation , or some dismantaling of west bank settlements. thing is, most protests in Israel are quite peaceful in nature, and Israel is a democratic state, so people know how to express themselves.