North Carolina Pastor: Beat the gaaay out of your children!

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#101 TheFlush
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[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

By the way, I'm 98% convinced that Sean Harris is a closeted homosexual himself. kingkong0124

what makes you think that?

It wouldn't be the first time that a pastor who is this vocal and agressive about homosexuality is a closeted homosexual himself.

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#102 mexicangordo
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By the way, I'm 98% convinced that Sean Harris is a closeted homosexual himself. Can't someone set him up with a hidden camera trick?
I'd love to see that guys life get ruined, he deserves it. I have zero tolerance for these kind of 'people'.

TheFlush

Exactly my thoughts, pretty sure he is.

But this spread of hatred is pretty awful. I know people take it as a joke (and that is a good thing to some extent) but did you guys hear how many people of the audience praised and supported him? That is just incredible sad.

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#103 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Riverwolf007"]

typical ot religious discussion.

non religious people: "you are stupid!

religious people: omg! no we are not!

non religious people: what did jesus say about fuking people over and harming those weaker than yourselves?"

religious people: "don't do it!"

non religious people: then why are you on a witch hunt?

religious people: .....

non religious people: "lol, derp, stupid confirmed."

Riverwolf007

what an intellectually stimulating post

hey man i'm just saying if you are not smart enough to even follow the tenants of your own religion you should probably stay quiet and let the adults make the decisions.

if what they do is wrong they will be punished by and by.

do you guys not read the book they give you to read?

are you really going to put your eternal soul in danger by doing something that completely contradicts what jesus his damn self told you to do?

like i said you don't get to claim you are smart when the direct evidence shows you are not even smart enough to do the simple ass instructions jesus gave you.

Ok, I get what you mean by that, but c'mon, everybody makes mistakes. Whether you are a Christian, Jew, Muslim, or atheist. Humans, inevitably, will make mistakes.
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#104 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="TheFlush"]

By the way, I'm 98% convinced that Sean Harris is a closeted homosexual himself. TheFlush

what makes you think that?

It wouldn't be the first time that a pastor who is this vocal and agressive about homosexuality is a closeted homosexual himself.

That's like saying because I'm strongly against murder/pedophilia/rape I must be a murderer/pedophile/rapist. Just because there are a few cases doesn't mean you can apply that same logic to others.

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#105 TheFlush
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[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] what makes you think that?

kingkong0124

It wouldn't be the first time that a pastor who is this vocal and agressive about homosexuality is a closeted homosexual himself.

That's like saying because I'm strongly against murder/pedophilia/rape I must be a murderer/pedophile/rapist. Just because there are a few cases doesn't mean you can apply that same logic to others.

Just let me speak to him, I have a gaydar ;)

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#106 Riverwolf007
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[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

By the way, I'm 98% convinced that Sean Harris is a closeted homosexual himself. Can't someone set him up with a hidden camera trick?
I'd love to see that guys life get ruined, he deserves it. I have zero tolerance for these kind of 'people'.

mexicangordo

Exactly my thoughts, pretty sure he is.

But this spread of hatred is pretty awful. I know people take it as a joke (and that is a good thing to some extent) but did you guys hear how many people of the audience praised and supported him? That is just incredible sad.

being terrified of their own desires is the driving force behind most of the big-time anti gay activists.

they always think they can legislate the gay out of themselves.

http://www.ranker.com/list/top-10-anti-gay-activists-caught-being-gay/joanne

hell, i can't even consider being gay as a sin. if there is no desire or temptation where is the sin?

nobody in their right mind would actively want to be in a trod upon marginalized minority if they had any choice about it.

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#107 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] what makes you think that?

kingkong0124

It wouldn't be the first time that a pastor who is this vocal and agressive about homosexuality is a closeted homosexual himself.

That's like saying because I'm strongly against murder/pedophilia/rape I must be a murderer/pedophile/rapist. Just because there are a few cases doesn't mean you can apply that same logic to others.

Except we have seen this ALL the time in which some "pillar" of family values is ousted as being gay You couldn't write any better material than this.
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#108 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I don't feel like reading through all that rubbish, I need a tl;dr version.

...the post is one sentence long

Now I get it, hahahaha, bananas and my name is King Kong! Lmao i'm dying right now

HEY i never said it was funny just that it was easy to get
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#109 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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:lol:
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#110 kingkong0124
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:lol:Jandurin

:lol:

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#111 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] what makes you think that?

kingkong0124

It wouldn't be the first time that a pastor who is this vocal and agressive about homosexuality is a closeted homosexual himself.

That's like saying because I'm strongly against murder/pedophilia/rape I must be a murderer/pedophile/rapist. Just because there are a few cases doesn't mean you can apply that same logic to others.

Not really, no, correlations between homophobia and homosexuality have been established scientifically, which is not true of murder/paedophilia/rape
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#112 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="TheFlush"]

It wouldn't be the first time that a pastor who is this vocal and agressive about homosexuality is a closeted homosexual himself.

sSubZerOo

That's like saying because I'm strongly against murder/pedophilia/rape I must be a murderer/pedophile/rapist. Just because there are a few cases doesn't mean you can apply that same logic to others.

Except we have seen this ALL the time in which some "pillar" of family values is ousted as being gay You couldn't write any better material than this.

Correlation =! causation
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#113 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] That's like saying because I'm strongly against murder/pedophilia/rape I must be a murderer/pedophile/rapist. Just because there are a few cases doesn't mean you can apply that same logic to others.kingkong0124
Except we have seen this ALL the time in which some "pillar" of family values is ousted as being gay You couldn't write any better material than this.

Correlation =! causation

No one claimed a causation, kiddo
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#114 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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correlations are stronger than nothing at all mr. kong
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#115 Hubadubalubahu
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:lol: Sad thing is a lot of Christians on OT have already expressed their distaste for homosexuals. I wouldn't mind betting that if it was their pastor they would be just as brainwashed as all these people saying "amen!" after everything he says. Some people really need to do more research on their own religion.

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#116 kingkong0124
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correlations are stronger than nothing at all mr. kongJandurin
These correlations are nonexistent. Where's that scientific data you atheists love to speak about? Give me scientific data supporting the "correlation".

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#117 deactivated-5b78379493e12
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Onion article?.....no? :(SteverXIII

That's what I thought.

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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]correlations are stronger than nothing at all mr. kongkingkong0124

These correlations are nonexistent. Where's that scientific data you atheists love to speak about? Give me scientific data supporting the "correlation".

Huh what does being atheist have anything to do with this? We are merely pointing out the startling events that the most anti gay people actually happent o be gay themsevles.
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lol smh

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#120 kingkong0124
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]correlations are stronger than nothing at all mr. kongsSubZerOo

These correlations are nonexistent. Where's that scientific data you atheists love to speak about? Give me scientific data supporting the "correlation".

Huh what does being atheist have anything to do with this? We are merely pointing out the startling events that the most anti gay people actually happent o be gay themsevles.

I was referring more so to Funky Llama with that statement, he loves science and scientific data and is a self proclaimed scientist.
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] These correlations are nonexistent. Where's that scientific data you atheists love to speak about? Give me scientific data supporting the "correlation".

kingkong0124

Huh what does being atheist have anything to do with this? We are merely pointing out the startling events that the most anti gay people actually happent o be gay themsevles.

I was referring more so to Funky Llama with that statement, he loves science and scientific data and is a self proclaimed scientist.

well, since you insist

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

this was the study i had in mind

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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] Huh what does being atheist have anything to do with this? We are merely pointing out the startling events that the most anti gay people actually happent o be gay themsevles.Funky_Llama

I was referring more so to Funky Llama with that statement, he loves science and scientific data and is a self proclaimed scientist.

well, since you insist

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

this was the study i had in mind

Bro, c'mon, one study?... I don't think that's enough to come up with a good, accurate scientific conclusion.
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I was referring more so to Funky Llama with that statement, he loves science and scientific data and is a self proclaimed scientist. kingkong0124

well, since you insist

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

this was the study i had in mind

Bro, c'mon, one study?... I don't think that's enough to come up with a good, accurate scientific conclusion.

It's still more scientific than saying the best thing to do is "beat the gay out of children. I don't think there is any scientific basis for that. Just fear and hatred.

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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I was referring more so to Funky Llama with that statement, he loves science and scientific data and is a self proclaimed scientist. kingkong0124

well, since you insist

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

this was the study i had in mind

Bro, c'mon, one study?... I don't think that's enough to come up with a good, accurate scientific conclusion.

inb4 2 studys aren't enough.

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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] I was referring more so to Funky Llama with that statement, he loves science and scientific data and is a self proclaimed scientist. kingkong0124

well, since you insist

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8772014

this was the study i had in mind

Bro, c'mon, one study?... I don't think that's enough to come up with a good, accurate scientific conclusion.

and you would be wrong

edit: not, of course, that this is the only study indicating this conclusion

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Bro, c'mon, one study?... I don't think that's enough to come up with a good, accurate scientific conclusion. kingkong0124
what? unless you investigate the study itself you can't possibly say its insufficient
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#127 Funky_Llama
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[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]Bro, c'mon, one study?... I don't think that's enough to come up with a good, accurate scientific conclusion. Jandurin
what? unless you investigate the study itself you can't possibly say its insufficient

I am reading it now i'm on the bit where they perform statistical analysis on the penile radii as a function of time of homophobic men watching a gay porn film it's funny
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penile radii as a function of time of homophobic men watching a gay porn filmFunky_Llama
*giggle*
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"]Bro, c'mon, one study?... I don't think that's enough to come up with a good, accurate scientific conclusion. Funky_Llama
what? unless you investigate the study itself you can't possibly say its insufficient

I am reading it now i'm on the bit where they perform statistical analysis on the penile radii as a function of time of homophobic men watching a gay porn film it's funny

I hope the person who took those measurements was paid very well.

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#130 ghoklebutter
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That makes me sick to my stomach, really.
[QUOTE="SolidSnake35"]Normal gender roles are for the best.Funky_Llama
2/10

I concur.
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#131 alexside1
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It has been ruled unconstitutional before. Wonder how long until it beat down by the supreme court.
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#134 Ncsoftlover
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and a few years ago when I first read online that America is overall a less progressive country than Canada, I brushed it off as some sort of irrational hate toward the world's remaining superpower:shock: Somehow I grew up with the impression that the US is the most progressive nation in the world.These days I must admit I was very ignorant.

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#135 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Thank god I don't live in America.

Still it's very sickening that stuff like this happens anywhere in the world.

Jandurin

north carolina isn't america brah

What about Mississippi, Tennessee, Arizona, Oklahoma, Alabama, Florida, Arkansas, Georgia, Louisiana, Texas, Utah, Kentucky, Missouri, etc etc

similar kind of social conservatism are not exclusive to North Carolina at all, in fact, I think NC is one of the most progressive southern state.

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Seems pretty cool.

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#137 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Thank god I don't live in America.

Still it's very sickening that stuff like this happens anywhere in the world.

Pirate700

Do you really have to say this everytime someone does or says something stupid in the US like nothing happens wherever you're from?

The chance of this kind of thing happening in Canada these days is probably smaller than the chance of the world actually ending this year.

Don't know about UK though, still, with the conversative prime minister now support same sex marriage officially, it can't that bad either.

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#139 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Do you really have to say this everytime someone does or says something stupid in the US?

Pirate700

Seems a reasonable sentiment, given that America is (in comparison to other Western countries) exceptionally accomplished at this kind of religious bigotry

No it's not reasonable. A few idiots saying stupid things in a huge counry with a monster population isn't worthy of that statement and Toast says it in every thread about something happening in the US.

When half of the entire country's state don't even have anti discrimination law on hate crimes and enployment for LGBT people, when same sex relationship technically was not legal after 2003 in many of the states, when the majority of the states in this country do not offer any kind of recognition of relationship (not even registered partnership) for LGBT people, yes, I think that shows something, which cannot simply be excused by being large and populus. And this is the country that constantly lecture others about human rights.

It's not just a few idiots either, many of them are wealthy and with influences and power.

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#140 Bucked20
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Beating the gay out them is just a good way to toughen him up
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#141 stanleycup98
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It's redneck Christian hicks like this guy who give NC a bad name. It's a shame really. NC is actually a liberal state despite it's location. I am going to vote against this next week, and I'm sure many others will, but it will be these hicks who only leave their run-down farms to vote for this who will let the amendment pass.
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That guy sounds like a real class act. /sarcasm
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#143 Ncsoftlover
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I am a christian and proud of it but I am not one of the over the top kind. I do not agree with homosexuality at all, but like someone else said, hate the sin, not the person. I get mocked at work from some gay guys at my job for my beliefs ( so its not just christians bashings gays, sometimes its the other way around). But whenever I get tired of their crap, I usually own them with this " If nature intended for two dudes or two girls to be together, then how come two people of the same sex can't have a child on their own?" They usually shut up and go about their day after that lol.

djshowstopper87

that's not a logical argument at all

because reproduction success is not the end all evolutionary advantage, in fact, overwhelming reproductive succuess may be detrimental to the species. I thought everyone knows that. People being affectionate toward each other, regardless of gender, can be advantagous in many other ways, and comforting as well, love and cooperation reduce anxiety, it's probably beneficial to survival.

And plus, stop treated nation as a person, nature does not have an intention, so stop using nature as some sort of god figure, and treating science as a religion , there's no such thing as "nature intended", none of us knows everything about nature, and none of us is the nature's speakperson, or messenger.

So while we're here, respect others, treat others equally is all we can do, saying "nature intended" is basically applying a religious mindset to science, and trying to gain control.

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#144 Addict187
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Louis C.K.-Gay people_Who gives a sh#$ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eb-JZSyhWSc This sums it up
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#145 GamerwillzPS
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Makes sense. Gay marriage should be banned.

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#146 Smokescreened84
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No, it shouldn't. If two people of the same gender love one another so much that they would like to try and live the rest of their lives with one another in marriage, then that's their choice and their lives. It is not for the church, or any homophobe, to deny anyone who loves another of the same sex the chance to be together and be happy. Someone else already said it, it is not homosexuality that is destroying families, it's the high divorce rate among heterosexual marriages. Religious fanatics like that always use anything different that they refuse to understand is harmless as an excuse to spout their narrow minded rubbish without looking at the real problem happening without heterosexual relationships and the strain that modern living causes.
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No, it shouldn't.Smokescreened84
I think that guy and several others in here are just trolling Well, at least I hope they are :?
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#148 Smokescreened84
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Considering the amount of homophobes on the net and in real life, and the number of homophobes there are on this site, I doubt they're joking.
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#149 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="Pirate700"]Nobody would give a hoot if this was said outside of the US. This is just something one guy said and it's big news.Pirate700

Uh why? You think that the US is somehow unique in its reporting of this kind of thing?

Because everything here is big news. Everything. We're a media driven country.

not true, here in Canada for example, because we are a much smaller nation with much less events happening, a simple murder case that wouldn't get any press in America can be headline news for days, people are quite senstitive as well, if this kind of thing happen in Canada today, not only would it be reported , it probably will be a bigger news.

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#150 Ncsoftlover
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="sonicare"] It's not legal. It's just some proposal by some bassackwards dude.sonicare

It's not just the beat the gay out part that iritates me. But also the bill that doesn't allow same sex marriage and civil unions.

The crazy child beater is just that, a crazy guy. The bill is actually a legal document.

The bill is a proposal not a legal law. Most likely it will not suceed in being made into law. There are thousands of crazy bills that get proposed every year. So it's not unusual to have something like this. Highly doubt it will see the light of day. Even if it does, it will likely be found unconstitutional. There was a bill in CA that outlawed gay marriage and that was promptly defeated.

it will most likely pass, every southern state that had a similar law passed, in fact, I think there are over 31 states that introduced ban on same sex marriage, and all passed by popular votes.