North Carolina Pastor: Beat the gaaay out of your children!

It has been ruled unconstitutional before. Wonder how long until it beat down by the supreme court.alexside1

It's only unconstitution in California because same sex marriage was once legal and many were granted marriage, in this case, however, like majority of US states that constitutionally ban same sex marriage/ civil unions, I don't think they can do anything about it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Same-sex_marriage_status_in_the_United_States_by_state

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Thank god I don't live in America.

Still it's very sickening that stuff like this happens anywhere in the world.

Legolas_Katarn

I miss Gabu for topics like this.

what happened to gabu, if you don't mind me asking?

I enjoyed listening to Suddenly I See quite loudly in my car with my windows down while singing along today.

I have enjoyed it ten times more in retrospect just to indirectly anger him.

Yeah I've been hearing a lot about this bill lately. I have no idea if it's going to pass or not but based after all of the signs I've seen and the fact that the area isconservative for the most part, I have a feeling that most of the western part is going to vote for it (the only major place that I see voting against it for the most part is Asheville).

As for what the preacher said, I'm against homosexuality, but what he said went way over the line.

Yeah I've been hearing a lot about this bill lately. I have no idea if it's going to pass or not but based after all of the signs I've seen and the fact that the area isconservative for the most part, I have a feeling that most of the western part is going to vote for it (the only major place that I see voting against it for the most part is Asheville).

As for what the preacher said, I'm against homosexuality, but what he said went way over the line.

cheetahman91

[QUOTE="cheetahman91"]

Yeah I've been hearing a lot about this bill lately. I have no idea if it's going to pass or not but based after all of the signs I've seen and the fact that the area isconservative for the most part, I have a feeling that most of the western part is going to vote for it (the only major place that I see voting against it for the most part is Asheville).

As for what the preacher said, I'm against homosexuality, but what he said went way over the line.

toast_burner

I think he's against it in the moral sense. While I do believe that is is morally wrong, I do believe in the freedom that my country allows and I have no problem with it being practiced, as long as all the participants are willing.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="cheetahman91"]

Yeah I've been hearing a lot about this bill lately. I have no idea if it's going to pass or not but based after all of the signs I've seen and the fact that the area isconservative for the most part, I have a feeling that most of the western part is going to vote for it (the only major place that I see voting against it for the most part is Asheville).

As for what the preacher said, I'm against homosexuality, but what he said went way over the line.

kingkong0124

I think he's against it in the moral sense. While I do believe that is is morally wrong, I do believe in the freedom that my country allows and I have no problem with it being practiced, as long as all the participants are willing.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]I don't want to derail the thread, but how can you (or anyone else) be against homosexuality? It doesn't make much sense, it's like saying "I oppose black people" what is there to oppose?

toast_burner

I think he's against it in the moral sense. While I do believe that is is morally wrong, I do believe in the freedom that my country allows and I have no problem with it being practiced, as long as all the participants are willing.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="cheetahman91"]

Yeah I've been hearing a lot about this bill lately. I have no idea if it's going to pass or not but based after all of the signs I've seen and the fact that the area isconservative for the most part, I have a feeling that most of the western part is going to vote for it (the only major place that I see voting against it for the most part is Asheville).

As for what the preacher said, I'm against homosexuality, but what he said went way over the line.

kingkong0124

I think he's against it in the moral sense. While I do believe that is is morally wrong, I do believe in the freedom that my country allows and I have no problem with it being practiced, as long as all the participants are willing.

That's exactly how I feel about it.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

I think he's against it in the moral sense. While I do believe that is is morally wrong, I do believe in the freedom that my country allows and I have no problem with it being practiced, as long as all the participants are willing.

kingkong0124

So disregard logic and feelings, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Hows it morally wrong? It's a shame so many people seem to oppose love.

toast_burner

So disregard logic and feels, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

Fvcking bigots, crack me up every time!HoolaHoopMan

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]Hows it morally wrong? It's a shame so many people seem to oppose love.

toast_burner

So disregard logic and feelings, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Because I believe in the Bible and that is what I largely base my morals on. Consequently, in my moral compass, it is wrong. May not be the same for your own moral compass, but mine, yes, it's something wrong. Funky_Llama

So disregard logic and feelings, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] Because I believe in the Bible and that is what I largely base my morals on. Consequently, in my moral compass, it is wrong. May not be the same for your own moral compass, but mine, yes, it's something wrong. Funky_Llama

So disregard logic and feelings, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

Fvcking bigots, crack me up every time!HoolaHoopMan

Amen to that

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So disregard logic and feelings, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

kingkong0124

Not sure how, him maybe. But all I did was ask why you think that and rather than giving a logical reason, you said you read it in a book.

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]why are you trying to reason with a christian that is an EXERCISE IN FUTILITY if ever there were onetoast_burner

Not sure how, him maybe. But all I did was ask why you think that and rather than giving a logical reason, you said you read it in a book.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"] No need to be disrespectful. If you want to engage in a civil-mannered discussion, I'm all for it. Btw, you guys both used an ad hominem, so I guess according to your rule of logic, your argument is illogical. kingkong0124

Not sure how, him maybe. But all I did was ask why you think that and rather than giving a logical reason, you said you read it in a book.

Well it's not the word of god. It's the teaching of a man who claimed to have spoken to god, translated, edited, translated again, edited some more, and then translated some more.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So disregard logic and feelings, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

kingkong0124

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

So disregard logic and feelings, just read this old book? Not exactly the best way to live life.

mattbbpl

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]why are you trying to reason with a christian that is an EXERCISE IN FUTILITY if ever there were oneFunky_Llama

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Not sure how, him maybe. But all I did was ask why you think that and rather than giving a logical reason, you said you read it in a book.

toast_burner

Well it's not the word of god. It's the teaching of a man who claimed to have spoken to god, translated, edited, translated again, edited some more, and then translated some more.

Thank god I don't live in America.

toast_burner

Yeah I'd rather live in a country where they stone gays.

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"] No need to be disrespectful. If you want to engage in a civil-mannered discussion, I'm all for it. Btw, you guys both used an ad hominem, so I guess according to your beloved rules of logic, your argument is illogical.kingkong0124

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Thank god I don't live in America.

Storm_Marine

Yeah I'd rather live in a country where they stone gays.

Although I'd like to homour this.

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

Thank god I don't live in America.

toast_burner

Yeah I'd rather live in a country where they stone gays.

Although I'd like to homour this.

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="Storm_Marine"]

Yeah I'd rather live in a country where they stone gays.

Funky_Llama

Although I'd like to homour this.

It could be worse. A lot worse. Be happy that you have the rights where as others don't. kingkong0124

Just because there are some scum in the world doing worse things doesn't justify the stuff other scumbags are doing

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]It could be worse. A lot worse. Be happy that you have the rights where as others don't. toast_burner

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]If I wanted to engage in polite, productive discussion, I wouldn't be talking to you
P.S. An insult is not the same thing as an ad hominemkingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]It could be worse. A lot worse. Be happy that you have the rights where as others don't. toast_burner

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]It could be worse. A lot worse. Be happy that you have the rights where as others don't. kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]It could be worse. A lot worse. Be happy that you have the rights where as others don't. toast_burner

Analogies aren't your thing huh?

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]You are correct, and I have no intention of engaging in polite, productive discussion on this forum. If you want to have a sensible debate, you don't strike up an argument with a bunch of dipsh*t kids.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="toast_burner"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]It could be worse. A lot worse. Be happy that you have the rights where as others don't. kingkong0124

So? That still doesn't mean not allowing them to marry isn't a bad thing and should be complained about.

Here's another example, when blacks weren't allowed to marry whites, should they just have been grateful that slavery had ended and shut up?

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
Then don't expect that you will no be held accountable for your immaturity. All I can say in, insults like these are not going to help improve the believers-atheists relationship. kingkong0124

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]You are correct, and I have no intention of engaging in polite, productive discussion on this forum. If you want to have a sensible debate, you don't strike up an argument with a bunch of dipsh*t kids.Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"][QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]...yeah, I don't come here as some kind of atheist ambassador, aiming to smooth over the interfaith cracks. I come here to laugh at the stupid people.

Funky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
Then don't expect that you will no be held accountable for your immaturity. All I can say in, insults like these are not going to help improve the believers-atheists relationship. kingkong0124

Gentlemen, please. You're both stupid.

[QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]why are you trying to reason with a christian that is an EXERCISE IN FUTILITY if ever there were oneFunky_Llama

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"]

[QUOTE="kingkong0124"]
Then don't expect that you will no be held accountable for your immaturity. All I can say in, insults like these are not going to help improve the believers-atheists relationship. kingkong0124

[QUOTE="Funky_Llama"][QUOTE="mattbbpl"]

mattbbpl